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THE Civil Rights Thread (merged)

Unread postby Jack » Wed 04 May 2005, 14:26:47

There's a recent update (April, 2005) that might be worth adding to the library.
It's a free download from Field Manual Download (5.7Mb)
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From a fellow Texan...

Unread postby 4StringSlinger » Thu 05 May 2005, 13:55:46

Very nice, Jack. Thanks.
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Re: Civil Disturbance Operations - FM 3.19-15

Unread postby BiGG » Thu 05 May 2005, 16:19:55

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jack', 'T')here's a recent update (April, 2005) that might be worth adding to the library. It's a free download from Field Manual Download (5.7Mb)

Yes Sir! That is a lovely post everyone should read up on. Even though I think the Peak Oil thingy is bunk one should certainly prepare ones self for things like others Rodney Kinging it and personal economic downturn for sure.
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THE Civil Rights Thread (merged)

Unread postby stu » Tue 25 Oct 2005, 15:02:36

Mother of civil rights movement dies.Obituary: Rosa Parks
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')t was a small act of defiance, but Rosa Parks' refusal, as a black woman, to give up her bus seat to a white man, would change the course of American history.
On 1 December 1955, the 42-year-old seamstress, and member of the Montgomery chapter of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP), was sitting on a bus when a white man demanded to take her seat.

I hear things in the Deep South are still relatively no different than when they were in the 50's. Segregation may have been lifted but after talking to people who have travelled through that part of the USA the impression I get is that racism is still rife.

However I have lot of respect for Rosa Parks and the decision that she took on that bus.
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Re: Mother of civil rights movement dies.

Unread postby smallpoxgirl » Tue 25 Oct 2005, 15:24:53

Well...I went to medical school in Memphis, TN. The park across the street from my medical school was named after Nathan Bedford Forest, founder of the KKK. Memphis still has a neighborhood named "white haven." (ironically a predominately black neighborhood now.) They still have auction street where the slave auctions were held. A few miles away is Nathan Bedford Forest State Park. Yeah...I'd say they still have a pretty bad problem with racism.

Incidently, FWIW, Wall Street in New York was so named because of the long wall from the slave auction yard that ran along the street.
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Re: Mother of civil rights movement dies.

Unread postby foodnotlawns » Tue 25 Oct 2005, 17:21:21

She done blazed da trail, all right: Keep in mind, Nushawn's girls were all White except for one Latino female, some as young as 13 years old, he lured them in with crack cocaine, and he impregnated 6 of them.

link POZ Exclusive: Nushawn Williams, The 'AIDS Monster' Who Infected 13 Women, Gives First In-Depth Interview in August Cover Story: The August POZ Also Features First-Ever List of 'HIV Criminals' - More Than 100 Profiles of Men and Women Convicted of Attempting To Infect Others Through Sex, Biting and More - and Asks, 'Does the Punishment Fit the Crime?'

NEW YORK, July 14 /PRNewswire/ -- In a POZ magazine cover story, Nushawn Williams, the young African American the media called "The AIDS Monster" in 1997, goes on record for the first time saying that he didn't know he had HIV when he had sex with 28 women in New York's Chattaqua County. Williams is currently serving four-to-12 years in state prison for infecting 13 of those women -- six after a health worker allegedly informed him that he was positive. This exclusive story is reported by Lisa Kennedy; a former editor of Out Magazine, The Village Voice and US who spent months interviewing Williams, his girlfriends, New York State prosecutors and relatives. The story appears in the August POZ, which hits newsstands July 15.
POZ has also compiled a first-ever list of 101 other cases of "criminal" HIV transmission. Spanning 1987 to the present, these cases involve people who have been found guilty of trying to spread HIV, by assault, having sex, biting, injecting, even spitting. Although POZ uncovered proof that only a few of the "victims" in these cases actually got infected with HIV and that even fewer of the "perpetrators" intended to transmit the virus, 30 states currently have HIV transmission laws.

As the August letter from the editor reports, POZ is focusing on Nushawn Williams and other "HIV criminals" to spark a long-overdue debate about the responsibility of people with HIV in stopping transmission, society's emerging view of HIVers as sexual predators and whether the trend toward criminalization is effective HIV prevention.

Also featured in the August POZ: New fiction by Ernesto Quinones (from the new novel of this Voice Literary Supplement "One to Watch"), Anne-christine d'Adesky, Philip Huang and Jaime Manrique. Martin Delaney, founder of Project Inform describes being a target of the anger of the AIDS denialist group ACT UP/San Francisco. Special treatment articles cover the increasingly popular Strategic Treatment Interruptions ("drug holidays") and rising concerns about anal and cervical cancer in men and women with HIV.

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Re: Mother of civil rights movement dies.

Unread postby PrairieMule » Tue 25 Oct 2005, 18:45:41

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('foodnotlawns', 'S')he done blazed da trail, all right: Keep in mind, Nushawn's girls were all White except for one Latino female, some as young as 13 years old, he lured them in with crack cocaine, and he impregnated 6 of them.

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NEW YORK, July 14 /PRNewswire/ -- In a POZ magazine cover story, Nushawn Williams, the young African American the media called "The AIDS Monster" in 1997, goes on record for the first time saying that he didn't know he had HIV when he had sex with 28 women in New York's Chattaqua County. Williams is currently serving four-to-12 years in state prison for infecting 13 of those women -- six after a health worker allegedly informed him that he was positive. This exclusive story is reported by Lisa Kennedy; a former editor of Out Magazine, The Village Voice and US who spent months interviewing Williams, his girlfriends, New York State prosecutors and relatives. The story appears in the August POZ, which hits newsstands July 15. ...

Look out folks, here it comes.. Urban Legend
Who is Nushawn Williams and WTF does this have to do with Rosa Parks? I mean, what is your point? Are you saying whites and blacks should should get in the back of the bus to avoid being bitten by aids infected person?

link While you are at it maybe I should just watch out for Pure blooded Arayan Gang members fresh out of prison who became homosexuals punking out other whites.

link You don't like non-whites, we get it. Go pedal your tripe elsewhere.
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Re: Mother of civil rights movement dies.

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Tue 25 Oct 2005, 19:01:03

What a difficult and thorny problem this is. When I was young I read Manchild in the Promised Land, To Kill a Mockingbird, The Autobiography of Malcolm X and a couple others. I felt that it was a horrible wrong, and I still do, the way blacks were treated in this country. I also remember reading white southern authors who pointed out that people can feel sympathy for blacks if they haven't had to deal with them too much. White America is still uncertain and wary of blacks for solid reasons. Black America is still uncertain and wary of whites for solid reasons. Scars like this take a long time to heal.
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Re: Mother of civil rights movement dies.

Unread postby swingbolder » Tue 25 Oct 2005, 19:32:23

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I') hear things in the Deep South are still relatively no different than when they were in the 50's. Segregation may have been lifted but after talking to people who have travelled through that part of the USA the impression I get is that racism is still rife.

I think it depends on where you go. My understanding (second-hand from black folks who live there) is that it has changed in some places but in other places not at all.

My great-grandmother was white and married to a black man (my great-grandfather). In those days, Virginia at the turn of the 20th century, interracial marriages were illegal. So basically to not attract any attention to their illegal union my great-grandmother never left their property, maybe once a year or so. They owned a little farm out in the country and were basically isolated from other people. I only just learned about this from their youngest daughter (they had eight children), my aunt Jackie, who turned 80 last year. She said that she didn't recall ever seeing her mother not at home.

Many people think that Rosa Parks just spontaneously decided to not get up from her seat. Not true. At the time of her infamous refusal to not give up her seat to a white man, she had been a longtime employee of the NAACP, which had been looking for a test-case to challenge the Montgomery bus segregation laws.
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Bush Motorcade Levels Rifles at Protestors

Unread postby mattduke » Sun 14 May 2006, 21:38:55

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Re: Bush Motorcade Levels Rifles at Protestors

Unread postby Specop_007 » Sun 14 May 2006, 21:44:12

Sounds like someone acting outside of the bounds of there authority rather then any type of protocol.
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Re: Bush Motorcade Levels Rifles at Protestors

Unread postby UIUCstudent01 » Sun 14 May 2006, 21:47:24

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Specop_007', 'S')ounds like someone acting outside of the bounds of there authority rather then any type of protocol.

It doesn't seem to be the case according to the first-hand accounts.. (they even put Bush in a positive view..)
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"President Bush as he got out of the motorcade, 'how dare you point a weapon at civil protesters' among other things."
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Re: Bush Motorcade Levels Rifles at Protestors

Unread postby Specop_007 » Sun 14 May 2006, 21:48:36

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('UIUCstudent01', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Specop_007', 'S')ounds like someone acting outside of the bounds of there authority rather then any type of protocol.
It doesn't seem to be the case according to the first-hand accounts.. (they even put Bush in a positive view..)

I'm not following you. Your saying Bush supported the guy pointing rifles, or he didnt? I'm saying Bush didnt support the actions taken, and as such it was probably one guy operating outside the bounds of his authority.
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Re: Bush Motorcade Levels Rifles at Protestors

Unread postby Specop_007 » Sun 14 May 2006, 21:51:25

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', 's')peccop would be the first to mow down the hippy protesters. he hates them

Only those with Green Peace signs. :-D
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Re: Bush Motorcade Levels Rifles at Protestors

Unread postby willjones4 » Sun 14 May 2006, 21:57:27

It says: "John proceeded to tell President Bush as he got out of the motorcade, 'how dare you point a weapon at civil protesters' ", so this "John" person was bitching at GW about it-he probably just smirked and kept going.
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Re: Bush Motorcade Levels Rifles at Protestors

Unread postby UIUCstudent01 » Sun 14 May 2006, 21:59:20

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('willjones4', 'I')t says: "John proceeded to tell President Bush as he got out of the motorcade, 'how dare you point a weapon at civil protesters' ", so this "John" person was bitching at GW about it-he probably just smirked and kept going.

Well, that's what I get for quickly skimming it here and there. :( :oops:
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Re: Bush Motorcade Levels Rifles at Protestors

Unread postby rwwff » Sun 14 May 2006, 22:34:13

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Specop_007', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', 's')peccop would be the first to mow down the hippy protesters. he hates them
Only those with Green Peace signs. :-D

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Re: Bush Motorcade Levels Rifles at Protestors

Unread postby Lighthouse » Sun 14 May 2006, 23:48:47

as long they don't shoot ...
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civil war, next episode

Unread postby Whitefang » Mon 15 May 2006, 05:12:21

Seems that the US is currently into a civil war between government and the people they ought to serve, I take it the decider is still just a civil servant? On occasion people do get shot for security reasons by special forces, so we go from Wacko to an open civil war early next decade.

Stupid paranoid little petty soap of tyrants, and petty little we that put up with such idiots with hands on WMD. We have exactly the government we deserve. We still have the natural right to oppose and dismiss a tyrannical regime. My guess is 80% of population will settle for imprisonment and slaughter.

The leading gang ought to be in court and after an honest trial executed without any question, the hard part will be to determine what a person knew and actually did. Say part of the whole army, FEMA, NORAD etc helped in executing 911 as most just worked for the drill. Ich hab es nicht gewusst!

Other then on the net, still no real opposition in courts, media, science, politics. This together with oil peaking sorta now, climate trouble, population pressure, economy debts. We are in for a fast crash and a very short WW3 with big bombs. At least no need to travel abroad to go to war.
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