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Postby pup55 » Wed 29 Jun 2005, 08:07:14

To follow up on nth's post in the current events thread:
and also the post this morning on the discussion thread:

Sprott

Here is a curve for Norway.

The first curve is the BP curve plus an assumed 400,000 barrel per day per year downward slope per this article (this is a 15% decline rate, and would be unprecedented).

The second curve is the Duncan and Youngquist prediction from 1997-2008 as predicted in 1997. In this case, the prediction was optimistic. Actual production never did reach 3.5 mbd.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_code('', '1971 6
1972 33
1973 32
1974 35
1975 189
1976 279
1977 287
1978 356
1979 407
1980 528
1981 512
1982 532
1983 661
1984 752
1985 823
1986 907
1987 1054
1988 1196
1989 1567
1990 1716
1991 1955
1992 2217
1993 2377
1994 2693
1995 2903
1996 3232
1997 3280 3369.863014
1998 3138 3413.69863
1999 3139 3452.054795
2000 3346 3471.232877
2001 3418 3452.054795
2002 3333 3452.054795
2003 3264 3432.876712
2004 3188 3410.958904
2005 2709.8 3390.410959
2006 2303.33 3375.342466
2007 1957.8305 3336.986301
2008 1664.155925 3298.630137')
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Postby pup55 » Wed 29 Jun 2005, 08:11:52

Thanks to Ayoob who provided the link

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'N')orway (the other major North Sea oil producer) in the first four months of the
year saw its oil production similarly fall 10% compared to last year. Even more disturbingly, the month
of May alone saw a drop of 40,000 barrels per day versus April. If such a month-over-month rate of
decline continues then Norway will lose at least 400,000 barrels per day of production this year alone.


Sprott, thanks to Ayoob who provided the link
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Postby RedViking » Sun 30 Oct 2005, 18:59:28

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pup55', 'I')f such a month-over-month rate of
decline continues then Norway will lose at least 400,000 barrels per day of production this year alone.


Data from the Norwegian Petroleum Directorates report .The Petroleum Resources on the Norwegian Continental Shelf 2005 surely states that the oil production in Norway is not expected to decline with 400,000 bbls a day in the future. Forecasted production from 2006 to 2009 is; 2,8 / 2,7 / 2,5 and 2,3. These figures are crude oil and exclude condensate and NGLs
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Re: Norway

Postby pup55 » Mon 31 Oct 2005, 09:25:21

[img][img]http://img334.imageshack.us/img334/2590/norwayprodforecast3mf.th.jpg[/img][/IMG]

Here's your graph.

The sprott estimate, the NPD estimate, and the Duncan and Youngquist 1997 prediction. It's still a pretty steep drop, I think.
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Re: Norway

Postby pup55 » Sun 01 Jan 2006, 08:29:54

http://peakoil.com/fortopic16045.html

To update this thread with the post from Torjus:

The new estimate is actually more pessimistic than the estimate last year by Sprott.
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Re: Norway

Postby Raminagrobis » Mon 02 Jan 2006, 18:32:30

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pup55', 'T')o follow up on nth's post in the current events thread:
and also the post this morning on the discussion thread:

Sprott

Here is a curve for Norway.


good post.

I used BP's figures (from BP statistical review of world energy 2005, i add the 2005 production figure you gave) to plot decline curves for norway.
Unfortunately, these production figures are "total liquids", it would be more accurate to separate NGL's from crude.

If someone want the excel (openoffice in fact, but i can convert it to excel) file that generates these curves, just ask for me to mail it.

The annual versus cumulative curve for norway is not very helpful, because decline has only started a few years ago. No clear trend appear.

But Deffeye's curve is better. deffeye's curve uses cumulative oproduction as "X" axis, and the "Y" axis is the ratio between annual and cumulativ production.

Deffeye's curve for norway show a near linear trend. It points very well to an ultimate of 30 Gb.
This figure would leave only 9.5 GB left to produce.

The latest reported reserve figure (january 2005) is 8.5 Gb. That's really close! It's exceptionnal than these two totally different ways of evaluating future production from a country (reserves, based on reservoir appraisal, and deffeyes's curve, based on production history) give figures that are only 10% apart.

The difference could well correspond to undiscovered fields. The 8.5 Figure was a year ago, somme 900 Mb have been produced since there... But some of the reserves have been replaced.

These predictions tend to ignore new provinces, but the only big remaining exploration scene is Barent's sea. Some 65 wildcats have been drilled so. Lots of gas were found (snovhit!) but only one well, a few weeks ago, encountered a small (#50Mb) oil field.

This is norway's creaming curve for discoveries :
http://www.mnforsustain.org/images/oil_ ... _fig18.jpg
(jean laherrere).

Its gives 3 Gb of ultimate oil+NGL in yet-to-find fields.

So I think we can sum up the datas for liquids (crude and NGL's) in norway as follow.The good quality of published datas, the maturity of exploration, and the confirmation by deffeye's plot make these figure quite accurate. There is of course a margin of error, but it's much smaller than for other countries.

(1) Roughly 29 Gb (billion barrels) of oil and NGL's in known fields, recoverable with today's thecnology. Of it :

20.5 have been produced.
4.5 Gb Remaning reserves in developped fields
4 Gb of reserves in undevelopped fields.
( = 8.5 Gb of reserves)

(2) perharps 2 or 3 Gb in yet-to-find fields.

(3) some potential for reserve growth, especially enhanced oil recovery, especially CO2 injection in large old fields like Gullfaks :
http://www.co2.no/default.asp?UID=62&CID=56
Tentatively estimated as 3 Gb (10% reserve growth, in fact more than that but only for suitable fields). Hoewever, the feasability of CO2-EOR in the Norwegian shelf have been challenged by a recent study.


TOTAL ULTIMATE PRODUCTION :

PAST : 20.5 Gb

FUTURE : 8.5 GB at least, 16 Gb at most.

In event event, there are now eating the 3rd quarter of the cake. ;-)
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Re: Norway

Postby pup55 » Tue 03 Jan 2006, 14:34:41

Thanks for the post.

As you point out, Norway probably represents the best case scenario in terms of data transparency, and ability to determine reserves estimates.

This being the case, it should be an interesting test case for reserves growth due to technology advances. Also, a test case for how long a depleted field will remain viable after decline.

At a rate of 2.6 mbd/.95 gby the next 5 years will be interesting, at the current rate.
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Re: Norway

Postby khebab » Tue 03 Jan 2006, 16:44:41

Here is the result of the Hubbert Linearization method:

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It looks like a perfect textbook case for the Hubbert method!
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Re: Norway

Postby TorrKing » Tue 03 Jan 2006, 16:53:16

khebab

If you are right our production will be nearly halved in 2010! I am growing even more doomerish as we speak.

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Re: Norway

Postby backstop » Tue 03 Jan 2006, 16:56:19

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Raminagrobis', '
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TOTAL ULTIMATE PRODUCTION :

PAST : 20.5 Gb

FUTURE : 8.5 GB at least, 16 Gb at most.

In event event, there are now eating the 3rd quarter of the cake. ;-)



I guess the above was meant to read

"In any event, they are now eating the 3rd quarter of the cake . . . ."

but in fact the numbers imply that only at best are they eating the cake's 3rd quarter, while at worst they're finishing off the cake's 3rd third.

The difference in depletion rates, and in the date at which home-drilled oil becomes unaffordable for economically critical uses, seems stark.

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Re: Norway

Postby khebab » Tue 03 Jan 2006, 17:34:15

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Torjus', 'k')hebab

If you are right our production will be nearly halved in 2010! I am growing even more doomerish as we speak.

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The logistic growth rate (parameter k) is almost 17% (UK is around 13%). Consequently, the decline rate (the year-on-year percentage production change) will be quite strong and will have the value of k as an asymptote:

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The corresponding production numbers from the Hubbert curve (in mbpd):

$this->bbcode_second_pass_code('', '2005 2.8633918
2006 2.6595003
2007 2.4425581
2008 2.2203014
2009 1.9994366
2010 1.7854025
2011 1.5823017
2012 1.3929613
2013 1.2190803
2014 1.0614214
2015 0.92001447
2016 0.79435045
2017 0.68355089
2018 0.58650823
2019 0.50199575
2020 0.42874968')
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Re: Norway

Postby Raminagrobis » Tue 03 Jan 2006, 21:12:11

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('khebab', 'H')ere is the result of the Hubbert Linearization method:

It looks like a perfect textbook case for the Hubbert method!



Nice curves indeed! Could you post the (matlab or whatever) code you used to generate them?

I had made the first one myself, but, silly me, I hadn't tried to convert the result into an hubbert curve.

The fit is really impressive, and with a single hubbert cycle - i'd 've guess instinctively that a 3-Hubbert model was necessary : one cycle for the North Sea, one for the Norwegian Sea, and one for NGL's.

Of course, there may be a second smaller cycle, correspond to some king of tail-end production, like CO2-assisted production (injecting CO2 in fields to push residual oil out). but this will not be more than a handfull of billion barrels.

Prospects for new discovery are rather small. All the oil-generating trends in the North and Norwegian have now been extensively explored by skilled people using advanced technologies. 700 wells have been drilled.

As I said ealier, Barents sea still has potential but it's gas-prone, very little crude oil (but some NGL's in gas fields). Continental norway is a granitic shelf with very little sediments, so there is no prospect for onshore oil (unless they ask Thomas Gold to do some exploration for abiotic oil :lol: :P ).

Oil prices are an important factor for an high cost environment like this one. Imagine a pltform designed for a peak output of 250 000 barrels/day, but now down to 50 000 because. production keep falling, say, 15% per year. But the operationnal costs are still those of a 250 000 bbls/day platform!!

A day will come were operating this old platform will be a money pit, and the operator will push the "discomission" button. But the date is not the same with $15 or $70 oil! High prices keep platforms online for longer. If oil was to fall to $15 tomorrow (unlikely!) , lots of fields in norway would become money eaters.

In fact, some north sea fields are now producing one fouth of their peak in the 80's, but generating more profit for the operator, because the price was very low, and the fiscal regime was more costly.

to help keeping old platform online, small "satellite" fields are also tied by to them, using some of the excess production capacity. The 4 Gb of remaining undevelopped reserves in norway are 60 small fields, most of hem will be developped as subsea tibacks to existing platforms.
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Re: Norway

Postby khebab » Wed 04 Jan 2006, 11:10:22

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Raminagrobis', 'N')ice curves indeed! Could you post the (matlab or whatever) code you used to generate them?

Sure. I will try to post the Matlab code during the day.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Raminagrobis', 'T')he fit is really impressive, and with a single hubbert cycle - i'd 've guess instinctively that a 3-Hubbert model was necessary : one cycle for the North Sea, one for the Norwegian Sea, and one for NGL's.

The fit is impressive maybe because fields were exploited as soon as they have been discovered.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Raminagrobis', 'O')f course, there may be a second smaller cycle, correspond to some king of tail-end production, like CO2-assisted production (injecting CO2 in fields to push residual oil out). but this will not be more than a handfull of barrels.

Probably we will see bumps on the right side especially with the current price conditions but it shouldn't make a difference due to the strong decline rates that are expected.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Raminagrobis', 'O')il prices are an important factor for an high cost environment like this one. Imagine a pltform designed for a peak output of 250 000 barrels/day, but now down to 50 000 because. production keep falling, say, 15% per year. But the operationnal costs are still those of a 250 000 bbls/day platform!!

I believe so too. In my province (Quebec), They are reopeneing old wells that have been mothballed in the 80s because the oil production was then judged uneconomical!
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Re: Norway

Postby rockdoc123 » Wed 04 Jan 2006, 14:13:31

Just wondering if you need to take into account the possibility that somewhere down the road the Norwegian gov't will decide to make the economic terms more attractive (currently one of the worst for producers). This could affect depletion in a couple of ways I think....1. would attract further exploration which, as an analog, we saw increased reserves and created a "double hump" on the depletion profile in the UK.....2. might result in reserve additions in-field due to better economics (ie. ability to bring on stream reserves previously left behind simply because economics were not there), we saw this happen in the UK as well. Just a thought.
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Re: Norway

Postby WebHubbleTelescope » Thu 05 Jan 2006, 01:33:07

I gave a shot at modeling the Norway depletion curves starting from the discovery data. I used means of 5 years for the fallow, construction, and maturation periods, and a 10% depletion rate for years up to 1992. After 1992, like for the UK, I doubled the extraction rate over a 10 year period. The fit is decent and it gives much more insight than the ridiculous logistic curve formulations.

Like the UK, the model shows the offshore areas are rapidly depleting. The increase in the extraction rates as the production curves started levelling off forced the hands of the producers to pump harder.
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Re: Norway

Postby WebHubbleTelescope » Thu 05 Jan 2006, 21:12:23

In the oil shock simulation, I used means of 5 years for the fallow, construction, and maturation periods, and a 10% depletion rate for years up to 1992. After 1992, like for the UK, I doubled the extraction rate over a 10+ year period.

Unshocked -- 10%
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Shocked -- 10% to 20%
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Note how close the profile of the shock perturbation approaches that of the UK North Sea model (chart below). In both cases, the increases in extraction rate occurred right around 1992, and essentially targeted the same 3 MBls/day sustainable production rate (competitive pressures perhaps?).
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Like in the UK, the Norway model shows how the offshore areas can suffer rapid depletion. From the range of the parameters, the Brits developed and matured their rigs much more quickly than the Norwegians. The necessary increase in the extraction rates as the production curves started leveling off in the early 1990's became quite obvious; this basically forced the hands of each of the producers to pump harder. Without new discoveries, and continuous hammering on the extractive technologies, they will certainly see a steep decline before they put the expensively maintained rigs into mothballs as the North Sea oilers cut and and run and forever minimize their losses.

Reproduced from here:
http://mobjectivist.blogspot.com/2006/0 ... etion.html
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Re: Norway

Postby khebab » Mon 08 May 2006, 12:58:02

For those interested, I posted a serie of new graphs on Norway like this one:

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Re: Norway

Postby WebHubbleTelescope » Mon 08 May 2006, 22:40:20

This is good stuff. Thank goodness for countries like Norway and the UK that require companies to report detailed production curves on individual fields.
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Re: Norway

Postby LadyRuby » Mon 08 May 2006, 23:46:54

This graph also shows, so clearly, how the big fields are all behind us.
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Re: Norway

Postby WebHubbleTelescope » Tue 09 May 2006, 00:30:29

And that each ensuing field has a progressively sharper peak.


(take a look at my post from January 6 which shows corrsponding increases in extraction rate)
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