[Zardoz]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jack', '.')..In the meantime, upcoming events are sure to be exciting. I've always had a fondness for fireworks.

[Jack]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Zardoz', '
')Yeah, we all love fireworks, but not when they're going off in our pants, which they will be.

[Liamj]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dub_scratch', '.'). He feels that Peak Oil is a non event, not worthy of even debating anymore. I personally don't agree with that, but I do admire someone how loudly states their opinion and then shuts-up in confidence that his point was made and heard.

[CrudeAwakening]

Maybe he's finally realised that he's been preaching to the choir all along. The vast majority of the population want to be reassured rather than educated. It's human nature to prefer to follow an apostle of hope, rather than one of doom.

Despite a recent slight uptick in PO-related media attention, it's mostly still skirting the real issues, rendering a "PO debunked" blog somewhat superfluous it seems.

He'll be back.

[SoothSayer]

>> What the heck are you people talking about!? Did you even read JD's last post? He is saying that he will quit posting because he thinks peak oil is a NON-EVENT. I think he's right.

There have been posts here by people going to bed early because they can no longer afford to heat their houses.

People seem to be pawning stuff to pay for fuel.

With high oil prices, the job losses will creep up day by day ...

It may or may not be Peak Oil ... but SOMETHING is happening, and to those who are in financial hardship it certainly is NOT a "non event".

Perhaps JD has simply had enough - he probably gets stacks of abuse each day - and some point most people would simply say "F*** it - I'm going fishing".

Good luck to him - we may not agree with him, but he worked hard to put his point across.

[mekrob]

We've had 4 years of slightly increasing prices (most of which wasn't caused by PO). Only in the past year have prices really been too high, say economists. So does he really think that that means the shit has hit the fan but everything is ok? Is he insane? Economic impact of higher energy prices is not immediate, especially in a country that has a much stronger economy and it's own vast resources that it can strip for a little while longer. But tell him to go to Africa or Southeast Asia and see exactly how those areas are handling the ONE YEAR of slightly high energy prices. He seems like a typical American. If it isn't happening now, it doesn't matter and won't ever happen.

[MfromAmsterdam]

why do I sometimes get the impression that a big part of the people coming here WANT to see shit flying all around the room?

even the Norwegians coming here (Torjus) think the world will go down.

people are pawning stuff since there is stuff.

you see what you want to see.

PO has/will come. you can make of it what you want.

JD had an opinion, stated it, and stops taking about it and starts doing something else. all you can do as an individual. we can only talk about it. there comes a time when everything is said. tell that to some people here.

Michel

[SoothSayer]

Good point MfromAmsterdam. I am very guilty of too much talking in this forum

However over the few weeks that I have been here I have been building up a picture of what the situation is or might be, and have come to some conclusions. It is now time for me to DO things as well as TALK about things.
For example:

* Yesterday I cleaned out and filled 3 water tanks in our garden. Over the next few weeks I will be DOING more (little) things to hopefully make our familiy a little more secure.

* A few weeks ago we bought 2 goats to provide milk.

* We are about to rip out unwanted hedges in our garden to expand our vegetable garden.

None of these will save us from a Mad Max version of Peak Oil ... but they might help during any period of global instability arising from, say, the US attacking Iran.

I hope JD also doing something similar with a bit of his newly found spare time ...

[oli]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('SoothSayer', '
')Good luck to him - we may not agree with him, but he worked hard to put his point across.

[MfromAmsterdam]

Soothsayer,

I BEG you to relax.

there're no hordes coming for your wife and can of beans.

you can put all the armageddon scenario's in the fridge. revelations, for example, is metaphorical. but simple people really think that THE world will go down, they take the info as it is literally written.

other people want to see something happen.

don't get influenced by both of them.

question: what are our queens doing with this issue for example? is she already ready to give up England and Scotland? Come on.

[SoothSayer]

>> there're no hordes coming for your wife and can of beans.

Probably not - but things can change quickly. Suppose the US hits Iran ????

Anyway, I am NOT preparing for a Mad Max situation ... just making sure that my family has a small buffer against short term economic disruptions.

Would YOU like to be in Amsterdam with an empty food cupboard if the food was cut off for say 10 days?

[JohnDenver]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Aaron', 'I') win.

[oli]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('JohnDenver', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Aaron', 'I') win.

[Peak_Plus]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('JohnDenver', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Aaron', 'I') win.

[Battle_Scarred_Galactico]

Perhaps he's off to start a new blog, "TheLawsofPhysicsDebunked.com". (Silly me, you'd have to know about them first.)

I'm suprised it lasted that long, if you honestly believe there isn't a problem you wouldn't need a website to tell you.

[Peak_Plus]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MfromAmsterdam', 'w')hy do I sometimes get the impression that a big part of the people coming here WANT to see shit flying all around the room?

[Peak_Plus]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mekrob', ' ')He seems like a typical American.

[Aaron]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I') know both of you want the last word, but I don't think that's the point, here.

[SoothSayer]

>> I don't think JD's blog has that much impact.
The fact he stops blogging won't chance the course of society

... and you think that THIS forum will materially change the world?

All I hope for is that a few people here use the information available to modify their life styles a little to protect themselves & their families just in case bad things happen.

If nothing does happen, well so what?

However just sitting here writing endless - and often semi abusive - posts doesn't get much done.

Posing questions, requestinq data & advice, and providing hopefully useful responses is the best use of this forum .. in parallel with actually doing something in the real world.

I hope JD will go fishing, party or whatever. Good luck to him.

In the meantime I'll be preparing just a little for a reduced energy future - Peak Oil or not.

I don't ever want to be in this situation:
"Daddy, what did you do when you found out about Peak Oil all those years ago?"
"Well, dearest, I spent hours on Internet forums talking about it. Now please pass me that rotting dead rat over there - it's time to prepare supper""

[Aaron]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I') don't ever want to be in this situation:
"Daddy, what did you do when you found out about Peak Oil all those years ago?"
"Well, dearest, I spent hours on Internet forums talking about it. Now please pass me that rotting dead rat over there - it's time to prepare supper""