[Carlhole]

Everybody's got their own idea of it.

[Aaron]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')ony Soprano is my worst nightmare. The idea of the guy walking past me, let alone touching me, makes me wince. He is the ape, the buffoon, the immoral thug, the no class Cretin, that media is normalizing to help explain the political thuguocracy the US is descending into.

[PrairieMule]

The sissification of man, I think the chickens have come to roost. Women got exactly what they ask for the last 30 years: A well behaved, clean, well spoken, sensitive "Nice boy" who is managable. You know, my daughters are all into Disney princess thing and one element these movies all lack are nice sensitive boys who use empathy over swordplay. No, I notice all the Prince charmings in little girls dreams are decisive, bold and a bit roguish. Men of Action.

Don't get me wrong, I think a man needs a sense of culture, education and refinement. On the flip side, somebody has to change the flat tire and not be priss about it... How would society treat a grown man crying on a cellphone on the side of the road with a flat?

Oh BTW, PMS-I have seen all the Thin Man Series. In every movie Nick Charles may have been a bit of a dandy, but he still made all the vital decisions and wielded the revolver.

[holmes]

You know we have hit rock bottomed gender chaos and confusion when gays and lesbians are defining masculinity and are making it theirs to dictate on.
Straight men must act gay! Gay women must act manly.
Gynocracy gestapo in full force! LOL. LOL.
I like Soprano just becuase he has a code and is a nice counter balance to the will/grace crowd.

[PenultimateManStanding]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PrairieMule', ' ')
Oh BTW, PMS-I have seen all the Thin Man Series. In every movie Nick Charles may have been a bit of a dandy, but he still made all the vital decisions and wielded the revolver.

[killJOY]

It's false to assume Gary Cooper was not in touch with his feelings, just because he didn't BLAB them. You can't psychoanalyze from his silence.

"Still waters run deep." I HATE blab.

I hate therapists and counselors and AA and "higher power" and "codependency" and adult children of alcoholics and serenity prayer and if you are one of these you are probably SO OUT OF TOUCH WITH YOUR FEELINGS BECAUSE EVERYTHING YOU SAY IS A THERAPIZED CLICHE.

Phew. That was fun.

[Zardoz]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('killJOY', '.')..I HATE blab.

I hate therapists and counselors and AA and "higher power" and "codependency" and adult children of alcoholics...

[lotrfan55345]

Even qualified, trained psychologists and psychiatrists?

[killJOY]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'E')ven qualified, trained psychologists and psychiatrists?

[Zardoz]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('killJOY', '.')..As for "parental influences," per the sarcasm above, every adult must read "The Nurture Assumption" by Judith Rich Harris. ... but now I'm off topic.

hip hip hooray for manly mens!

[killJOY]

Time for a sea change:

Real men don't go to AA.

[lotrfan55345]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('killJOY', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'E')ven qualified, trained psychologists and psychiatrists?

[Zardoz]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('killJOY', '[')url=http://skepdic.com/sat.html]Real men don't go to AA.[/url]

[PenultimateManStanding]

Today at the high school where I was working, there were very few students in each class because of the May Day thing. The teacher left no lessons because he knew that the classes would be mostly empty. I let the kids who were there watch TV while I passed the time on the internet. So I was reading this thread and came to Carlhole's post of the African showing off his erect penis. I looked at it and briefly thought "is this what it seems to be?" and then quickly scrolled past after I realized that it was. Too late. Some kids saw it too and they had the biggest grins on their faces. Now I'm wondering if some of them go home and say, "The sub today was looking at gay porn!" Thanks a lot, Carlhole.

[killJOY]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')ell, duh! Real men just keep on drinkin'!

[Atlantean_Relic]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', 'T')oday at the high school where I was working, there were very few students in each class because of the May Day thing. The teacher left no lessons because he knew that the classes would be mostly empty. I let the kids who were there watch TV while I passed the time on the internet. So I was reading this thread and came to Carlhole's post of the African showing off his erect penis. I looked at it and briefly thought "is this what it seems to be?" and then quickly scrolled past after I realized that it was. Too late. Some kids saw it too and they had the biggest grins on their faces. Now I'm wondering if some of them go home and say, "The sub today was looking at gay porn!" Thanks a lot, Carlhole.

[PenultimateManStanding]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Atlantean_Relic', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', 'T')oday at the high school where I was working, there were very few students in each class because of the May Day thing. The teacher left no lessons because he knew that the classes would be mostly empty. I let the kids who were there watch TV while I passed the time on the internet. So I was reading this thread and came to Carlhole's post of the African showing off his erect penis. I looked at it and briefly thought "is this what it seems to be?" and then quickly scrolled past after I realized that it was. Too late. Some kids saw it too and they had the biggest grins on their faces. Now I'm wondering if some of them go home and say, "The sub today was looking at gay porn!" Thanks a lot, Carlhole.

[0mar]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Zardoz', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('killJOY', '[')url=http://skepdic.com/sat.html]Real men don't go to AA.[/url]

[Dreamtwister]

http://books.guardian.co.uk/extracts/story/0,,1733547,00.html

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'D')ating women was the hardest thing I had to do as Ned, even when the women liked me and I liked them. I have never felt more vulnerable to total strangers, never more socially defenceless than in my clanking suit of borrowed armour. But then, I guess maybe that's one of the secrets of manhood that no man tells if he can help it. Every man's armour is borrowed and 10 sizes too big, and beneath it he's naked and insecure and hoping you won't see.

[holmes]

Women are finding out they have really thrown out the baby with the bath water. Tragic IMO.