[Specop_007]

Its amazing the diversity of people that come here. I really think only a website like peakoil.com could bring such vastly different groups to the same forum.

[NevadaGhosts]

I can just see all the optimists here (who make fun of us survivalist types) 4 years from now, hiding in an abandoned home. Cold, hungry, and scared. Holding and shaking their heads... 'This isn't happening! This isn't possible!'

[Guest]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('NevadaGhosts', 'I') can just see all the optimists here (who make fun of us survivalist types) 4 years from now, hiding in an abandoned home. Cold, hungry, and scared. Holding and shaking their heads... 'This isn't happening! This isn't possible!'

[jato]

My personal favorite: "Don't worry, the government will save us!" Translated= Other people will save me. I don't have to worry about providing my own food, clothing, shelter & protection.

[Specop_007]

Yes, but even in a broader sense. Most boards usually cater to a specific LIMITED subject. Say....Knitting. You might discuss the various weaves and knits, but at the end of the day your all knitters.
But a topic such as this, which takes a good portion of survival and a good portion of conservation is rather like forming a board and having members of both PETA and the NRA on it.
We have survivalists and hippies. We have people who dont think you should own anything more then a butterknife and people who think you should be able to own any weapon you can afford. People who are mentally weak and have thoughts of suicide and people with strong minds who are ready for anything. And the list goes on and on.
Pretty impressive mix of people, no wonder we see such heated threads.

[jato]

I agree.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'P')retty impressive mix of people, no wonder we see such heated threads.

[Barbara]

What is most amazing is that while we have such different people, flames and offences are very very rare.
I hope the world will react to Peak Oil in the same civilized manner. (Of course, I'm not speaking of Specop! )

[Specop_007]

Make no mistake on 3 issues people.

1) I am a dick. I do not like you, I do not like people, I do not like humanity, I have no vested interest one way or the other if you all live very happy, fufilling lifes or die a slow painful death.

2) Most of what I say is simply for the kneejerk reactions I can get out of people. Goes back to being a dick. I want to see how far you'll go, how mad you get just for the express amusement of seeing how far you'll go and how mad you'll get.

3) I do get a good level of satisfaction in the discussion I have with people here

You may now return to your normal posting, and I will continue to go see what fire needs a dash of gas. (While we still have the gas to waste on fire dashing!)

[pepper2000]

The only common thread I can see is that most of us are very dissatisfied with the current state of the world, though often for a variety of reasons.

[trespam]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('NevadaGhosts', 'I') can just see all the optimists here (who make fun of us survivalist types) 4 years from now, hiding in an abandoned home. Cold, hungry, and scared. Holding and shaking their heads... 'This isn't happening! This isn't possible!'

[Tyler_JC]

Regardless of what happens people like Spec ops will always survive. If life continues as normal, they will continue stacking up on weapons/food/whatever. If TSHTF, they may finally get a chance to use those weapons, foodstuffs, and whatevers.

The optimists will only survive if they are right. If they are wrong, they die. If they are right, life goes on.

It's Pascal's Wager. If God is real and you believe it...congrats, you get into Heaven. If God is real and you don't believe it...you're f**ked. If God doesn't exist, it doesn't matter what you do.

God (Peak Oil) does exist and its consequences are real. This isn't something we can talk about and not think about like, "saving the rainforest" or "saving the whales". We have to do something to make the next 50 (ish) years less painful. That is the point of this forum, to inform people and give them options. If you don't want to do anything, fine, but don't expect Neveda or specops to save you.

[Pops]

I agree 007. As one of the first posters here, I’m really impressed with how the board has grown. And as a neophyte message board poster I’m also impressed at how open Admin and Aaron have been in letting it seeks its own “feelâ€

[trespam]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Tyler_JC', 'R')egardless of what happens people like Spec ops will always survive. If life continues as normal, they will continue stacking up on weapons/food/whatever. If TSHTF, they may finally get a chance to use those weapons, foodstuffs, and whatevers.

The optimists will only survive if they are right. If they are wrong, they die. If they are right, life goes on.

It's Pascal's Wager. If God is real and you believe it...congrats, you get into Heaven. If God is real and you don't believe it...you're f**ked. If God doesn't exist, it doesn't matter what you do.

God (Peak Oil) does exist and its consequences are real. This isn't something we can talk about and not think about like, "saving the rainforest" or "saving the whales". We have to do something to make the next 50 (ish) years less painful. That is the point of this forum, to inform people and give them options. If you don't want to do anything, fine, but don't expect Neveda or specops to save you.

[holmes]

I agree 20 or 30 more years of semi normalcy. i have no idea what to invest in. definately have ideas.

[Tyler_JC]

Pascal was working for The Catholic Church. Thus, there was no god other than the Catholic God. Muslims and other infidels were doomed anyway so they weren't included in his theory.

More to the point, God does not equal peak oil. I had meant to say that God = fast crash after peak. If you believe in a fast crash and plan for it, congrats. If you plan for a slow crash and a fast one happens...not good.

For me, I don't have enough money or enough influence to plan for either kind of crash. I can convince my mother not to buy that Jeep Liberty (what is she thinking??). I told her almost everything I know about Peak Oil. She replied, “Well, I can afford gas at any price. It doesn’t really matter if a gallon costs 10 dollars, I’ll always be able to fill up.â€

[TheSupplyGuy]

I too have been amazed at the lack of flaming, etc. going on here. I guess its just good I don't use PeakSpeak, since I tend to get passionate when I'm actually speaking .

[small_steps]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Tyler_JC', 'R')egardless of what happens people like Spec ops will always survive. If life continues as normal, they will continue stacking up on weapons/food/whatever. If TSHTF, they may finally get a chance to use those weapons, foodstuffs, and whatevers.