[UIUCstudent01]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('smiley', 'B')ut then again, I can't be convinced that this is a prison either. Security is much to light.

[Free]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Schweinshaxe', 'I')f you look at the fences, you can clearly see that they are designed to stop people from getting OUT. Not getting IN.

[gego]

This is probably Bush's new energy technology that he said would amaze the American public.

No doubt he plans to process all the fat people into a new product, homodiesel.

[smallpoxgirl]

It certainly could be used for mass detention of people, but there are lots of places that can be used for mass detention of people. The Pier 57 building in New York is a perfect example. One day it's an abandoned wearhouse. The next it's a holding facility to detain 1,800 political disidents. Link

Really all that's lacking for them to open concentration camps all over this country is the political necessity. As MD points out, fences and other crowd control mecanisms have been accepted as status quo almost anywhere you go. We accept that those things are their to protect us, and to some extent they are, but only as long as we continue to faithfully serve our masters.

[smallpoxgirl]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gego', 'N')o doubt he plans to process all the fat people into a new product, homodiesel.

[gego]

If this is indeed the early development of extermination camps, and if you have ever personally supported more government of any kind, then you are partly responsible.

Government is nothing but force. If you wanted government to do anything, no matter how seemingly benign, you were asking for one group of people, governnment, to force someone else to do something or not do something. Extermination camps are just a natural and inevitable extension of this concentration of force in the hands of this corporation we call the United States government.

Example after example in history, and the slave class is still oblivious to the nature of government.

[Leanan]

Whoah, Nellie. It's a quantum leap from an internment camp to an extermination camp. We put Japanese-Americans into internment camps during WWII (which was bad enough), but didn't exterminate them.

They are building camps. They've said so. But to assume they're preparing for a "final solution" type scenario...I don't think that's warranted.

[Zardoz]

Kinda looks like the producers of the video saw the old Army crane and the old Air Force locomotive, and let their imaginations run wild.

The helicopter simply passed over. It it was "observing", it would circle. We can only take their word for them being "observed" on each visit. Sounds like story embellishment to me. The helicopter shot could have been taken elsewhere and spliced in.

I agree that the fences are too weak to contain much of anything, and the turnstiles could be classic pork-barrel overspending. Everything else is just paranoid speculation.

Halliburton's detention camp contract appears to genuinely be intended for a heavy increase in illegals coming up from Mexico. I'd say the feds know how bad the Mexican economy is going to be hit by the coming oil crunch, and they're getting ready for it.

[smallpoxgirl]

Leanan...the US already incarcerates a greater percentage of it population than any country on the planet. Do you really see that increasing several fold in a world of shrinking resources and scarcity and all those people continuing to get fed? Remember. Most Jews didn't die in gas chambers. They died from the combined effects of stress, physical exhaustion, poor sanitation, starvation, and resultant epidemic diseases. When there's not enough food to go around, you can bet that it will go to friends of the regime, not to miscreants in conentration camps.

[Cobra_Strike]

Could it be that this is a pandemic camp? I could see the need for furnaces then, to burn the dead. To me that seems a more likely conclusion; in the even t of a massive pandemic the government is going to need places to relocate the sick.

[Itch]

I think cities themselves would make fine concentration camps as a tertiary purpose. Many cities only have one or two exits going in and out. The ones that are close to where I am have the added benefit of being surrounded by water which would kill or expose anyone trying to find a way out.

All the bad guys have to do is seal off the few exits and entrances in the city, and you're fucked. Some clever people might find a way out, but where are they going to go? How long can they evade?

If the bad guys really want to start imprisoning and possibly exterminating people even more regularly with even sillier excuses, sending them to camps to carry out the process, then I'd think that rural people had best watch out; city people are already set for the meat grinder.

On the bright side, these prisons, if that's what they turn out to be, are being made with the shittiest materials with the cheapest labor, and pocketing the rest of taxpayer money; it's the way of the corporation. So there will probably plenty of opportunities for escape after some thorough planning.

[Leanan]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'D')o you really see that increasing several fold in a world of shrinking resources and scarcity and all those people continuing to get fed?

[MacG]

I'm certain that this is an indication of something important going on. Have no clue whatsoever of exactly WHAT that important thing is though. As far as I know, this is a purely American phenomenon. Either the US gov is building prison camps (with optional huuuge gas owens) or people are just belive it happen. In either case it's interesting and indicative of something.

Why do some Americans belive their gov prepare to hoard them up behind barbed wire? Is there a gut feeling that something is very, very wrong with the current way of life and that it will change dramatically one way or another? I know no other place or country where similar belifs show up. Interesting!

[Zardoz]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MacG', '.')..I know no other place or country where similar beliefs show up...

[Leanan]

Americans love conspiracy theories. The government is covering up the truth about UFOs, 9/11, the Kennedy assassination, etc. You name it, there's a conspiracy theory about it. We have a lot of distrust of government, and it dates back long before Prime Minister Cheney took over.

[smallpoxgirl]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MacG', '(')with optional huuuge gas owens)

[LadyRuby]

It's a fact that the government has the capability to build and operate detention camps. If I was them, I would consider a site like this to be a good one (because of rail access, etc.). But right now there's nothing to indicate there are plans for it to be used. In fact the town there is planning what to do with that space (development, etc.).

Amtrak says they can't relocate to Michigan. If I want to wear my conspiracy hat for a moment, I'd say that perpaps they can't because they are legally obligated (by the feds) to maintain that site. Or they have some requirement such that they aren't able to just sell it and move elsewhere. It's much easier to take over something like that from Amtrak than from a bunch of private developers.

But for now, it's nothing more than a secured rail facility, and the military rail vehicle there is probably being repaired on site (I think I saw somewhere that this facility is used to repair other systems rail vehicles as well, not just Amtrak).

[eric_b]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('LadyRuby', 'B')ut for now, it's nothing more than a secured rail facility, and the military rail vehicle there is probably being repaired on site (I think I saw somewhere that this facility is used to repair other systems rail vehicles as well, not just Amtrak).

[Schweinshaxe]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MacG', 'A')s far as I know, this is a purely American phenomenon. I know no other place or country where similar belifs show up. Interesting!

[Schweinshaxe]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('smallpoxgirl', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gego', 'N')o doubt he plans to process all the fat people into a new product, homodiesel.