[mortifiedpenguin]

I'm just curious, is the oil peak a proven fact and guaranteed to happen, or is it still just a theory? Because I'm, well, really worried about it.

[some_guy282]

The basic theory is sound, and has been proven true on individual fields and countries as a whole. So yes, there is a general consensus that the peak will occur. The real question is when the peak will happen. Some say as late as 2030 (highly unlikely) to as soon as 4 years ago...

[Sencha]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'B')ecause I'm, well, really worried about it.

[Concerned]

Peak Oil will happen or it may already have happened.

We can reduce our consumption to help a transition to alternatives and even that transition will be painful.

The cheap energy party was fun while it lasted.

[clv101]

Sorry peak oil is a fact mortifiedpenguin. 18 or so major regions have peaked and since the world is a collection of regions which have individually been shown the peak, it follows that world production will also peak some day. Most notable is lower 48 states of America whose production peaked 1970 at ~10 million barrels per day and is now down to ~4 million barrels per day and more recently the North Sea with UK production peaking at 2.7 mb/p in 1999 and now down to 2.0mb/p.

Just when global peak is depends on just how much is left. This is tricky since the countries and companies involved are very secretive - it's fair to say though that all the available evidence points to a global peak this decade.

[Soft_Landing]

That oil production (should I say extraction!) will someday peak, well, that is a logical necessity.

The amount of time we have until that peak arrives is a matter of tiresome debate. And will continue to be until it arrives, no doubt.

The questions that concern many of us is what the consequences will be, and whether we should even be worried. You'll find plenty of discussion about that if you trawl through the site, and most seem to be of the opinion that without a new and rapidly emerging energy source in the very near future (are we already too late? history will tell), society is in for some very big changes, to say the least.

There are things you can do. Look in the planning for the future forum for a few ideas. Read widely before you form any opinions. Most importantly, enjoy yourself.

[theshadypeach]

Oil is a finite resource, so a peak in production is guaranteed. Even if it is abiotic, Oil production is guaranteed to peak because more of it is used than produced. The peaking of oil has already been proven, as it has already happened in some countries. The United States of America's oil production has already peaked inthe seventies.

[Jenab]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Concerned', 'P')eak Oil will happen or it may already have happened.

We can reduce our consumption to help a transition to alternatives and even that transition will be painful.

The cheap energy party was fun while it lasted.

[Keith_McClary]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mortifiedpenguin', 'I')'m just curious, is the oil peak a proven fact and guaranteed to happen, or is it still just a theory? Because I'm, well, really worried about it.

[duff_beer_dragon]

Of course it's real! It's been remote-viewed by the Company's finest psychopaths (in between their trying to join up with my mind of course) and clairvoyants-in-residence, there is only one possible future timeline, can't possibly be any other way forward - the future is fixed,

so that means it doesn't matter what you do, since you've already done it haven't you,

so why worry? It was all programmed before you were born, you don't have a choice in what happens, nobody does.

So why have a website about it.........as if it can be changed.

[mortifiedpenguin]

^^ They have pills for that, you know......

[Justamom]

It is scary. I had many fitful nights of sleep at first, frankly. I think researching and reading the forum here has helped because I am "doing" something, not that I have the resources to survive, but I will be striving to keep myself and sons alive. Is that purpose?? Is that just something to do for a while?


Trying to be prepared here. <shrug> There are a lot of questions - tough questions - asked on this board. You should read everything and put some thought into everything. Question everything, its the way solutions are found.

Welcome to the salt mines btw..

Justamom

[duff_beer_dragon]

Pills for what? Sarcasm? Seeing thru lies? I haven't heard of those pills, do they have a name?

The British built an Empire without any fossil fuels - unless that was some kind of BDS-PuzzleBox conspiracy that utilised the oil fields of China?

I got pills for you - purple ones - red + blue = purple*, geddit?


*since it will undoubtedly rattle someone, that would be colours as in pigmentation, not as in light-emitting

[Zapatos_Bear]

The whole peak oil part does not scare as much as the concequences and what we will depend on for energy. Frankly, I think our dependence on fossil fuels is disgusting and it was unfortunate to have discovered such a high yeild resource right off the bat. But, since we have no other options to turn to besides ones that yeild a fraction of the energy that oil yeilds and account for only a small bit of the energy consumed by our growing world, we can count on a sudden and severe change in our luxurious lifestyle.

[quantinghome]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('duff_beer_dragon', '
')The British built an Empire without any fossil fuels - unless that was some kind of BDS-PuzzleBox conspiracy that utilised the oil fields of China?

[Jenab]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('quantinghome', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('duff_beer_dragon', '
')The British built an Empire without any fossil fuels - unless that was some kind of BDS-PuzzleBox conspiracy that utilised the oil fields of China?

[Keith_McClary]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jenab', '
')The point is that the British (and the Romans) had the means to transport large numbers of troops with more efficiency and with greater organization than their rivals, usually.
Jerry Abbott

[seahorse]

I'm not sure what the point is about what the British and Romans did - its not a good comparison. Its not correct to say or imply that the British or Romans didn't use vast amounts of resources. They consumed vast amounts of the resources that they needed to sustain their cultures. The British used vast amounts of coal and wood, and England is now virtually depleted of both. The Romans conquered for land, land needed for resources to sustain a growing population. Soldiers were promised land in enchange for service, and Rome fought countless wars for land, killing thousands, if not hundreds of thousands for the right to control it. The British and Roman cultures built empires by conquering for the resources they needed to sustain themselves. The fact is our new world of six billion people couldn't sustain itself on coal or wood alone like the Romans did. Without oil, we would quickly revert to living like the Romans, which isn't so nostalgic in retrospect, considering they didn't have toilet paper, ice, air-conditioning, anti-biotics, cokes, hamburgers, or anything else we take foregranted. I think the point of peak oil is the fact that the prospect of reverting to a Roman culture is not very exciting, especially the thought of the current world population being reduced to whatever the world population was during either the British or Roman empires, which wasn't much. And don't forget, they had the black plague and all other kind of fun pandemics to deal with. So, if all we have to look forward to is being Roman, I"m not too excited. I hope it doesn't come to that. I'm optimistic that it won't.

[chris-h]

The Romans resourse was gold.
When gold peak their empire broke in 2.

Greeks empire resourse was gold and silver.