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Re: Homeland Security Contracts for Vast New Detention Camps

Postby hotsacks » Fri 03 Feb 2006, 11:34:36

In light of what promises to be a bigger hurricane season than last year's,I'd say the government has finally figured out that 2+2=4 and needs to prepare in advance.If they were caught with their pants down again,people might finally notice they're missing some vital parts.
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Re: Homeland Security Contracts for Vast New Detention Camps

Postby Doly » Fri 03 Feb 2006, 12:23:38

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('hotsacks', 'I')n light of what promises to be a bigger hurricane season than last year's,I'd say the government has finally figured out that 2+2=4 and needs to prepare in advance.

And why do they have to be detention camps, and not refugee camps?
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Re: Homeland Security Contracts for Vast New Detention Camps

Postby smallpoxgirl » Fri 03 Feb 2006, 12:27:15

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('coyote', 'L')et's take Halliburton at their word at the moment, and believe that these huge camps are there to be prepared "in the event of an emergency influx of immigrants into the U.S." Why is the administration suddenly worried about that?

Well...I think the Halliburton press release says it all:
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he contract may also provide migrant detention support to other U.S. Government organizations in the event of an immigration emergency, as well as the development of a plan to react to a national emergency, such as a natural disaster. In the event of a natural disaster, the contractor could be tasked with providing housing for ICE personnel performing law enforcement functions in support of relief efforts.
ICE was established in March 2003 as the largest investigative arm of the Department of Homeland Security. ICE is comprised of four integrated divisions that form a 21st century law enforcement agency with broad responsibilities for a number of key homeland security priorities.


This isn't just about an "immigration emergency". It's about Immigrations assuming "law enforcement functions" in a "national emergency" to support "a number of key homeland security priorities".

I think it bears mentioning that as part of the cointelpro program the FBI maintained an "Agitator Index" throughout the 50's, 60's, and 70's. This was a list of domestic political undesirables who were to be picked up and held in the event of a "national emergency." The FBI was ordered to cease and decist from cointelpro after the Senate's Church Commission hearings in 1976, but it's pretty clear that many of the same individuals who carried out cointelpro are still employed by the FBI and are still carrying out the same sort of activities just under different program names. The JTTF's have been heavily used in this way. So, I would be willing to bet that at least part of the plan for the new concentration camp is to have someplace to put domestic rabble rousers during the next "national emergency."
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Re: Homeland Security Contracts for Vast New Detention Camps

Postby hotsacks » Fri 03 Feb 2006, 12:41:54

It's a good point Doly.Also,why the references to 'immigrants'? I'd say it comes down to the spin you put on it.One possible inference is that they must prevent people returning to areas where basic sanitation and medical infrastructure has been knocked out.They had a problem with NOLA in that regard.Another,more frightening interpretation might be they are preparing for a pandemic.
My problem with the whole Alex Jones spin is this.I think fascism is a growing threat in all democracies:I just don't think there are enough people willing to fight it that would require internment camps.After all of its postwar success in hoodwinking populations,government has a pretty good playbook on moving people in the direction it wants to.9/11 testifies to that.
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Re: Homeland Security Contracts for Vast New Detention Camps

Postby InformedEJ » Fri 03 Feb 2006, 13:50:56

HHmm.. interesting article. After reading the article a lot of the article points to a disaster. Has anyone mentioned avian influenza as a possiblity for this contract. It seems very logical to me, "influx of immigrants", where is the first place people from Mexico will go to get supplies either medical or food.... The USA.. Just some food for thought.
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Re: Homeland Security Contracts for Vast New Detention Camps

Postby PenultimateManStanding » Fri 03 Feb 2006, 14:36:09

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Chocky', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')t's probably completely unrelated, I know, but I'm beginning to wonder what Hitler said to explain the building of concentration camps.
Pretty sure the first ones were for politcal prisoners and dissidents, mainly communists, and that the Nazi government said as much, emphasising the threat they posed etc, etc.
The Communists were hunted down after the Nazi takeover. A simple thing like using the "comrade" could spell death.
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Re: Homeland Security Contracts for Vast New Detention Camps

Postby seahorse2 » Fri 03 Feb 2006, 15:19:23

I'm going to try to get a copy of the KBR contract. If and when I do, I will post it.
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Re: Homeland Security Contracts for Vast New Detention Camps

Postby smallpoxgirl » Fri 03 Feb 2006, 15:59:26

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', 'T')he Communists were hunted down after the Nazi takeover. A simple thing like using the "comrade" could spell death.

Yeah. The whole Nazi-Communist-Weimar Government triangulation is pretty interesting. Even before the Nazi's really came to national power there was considerable blood shed from street fighting between them and the communists. That street fighting, and the Weimar government's inability to stop it, made people feel vulnerable and like the Weimar government was totaly impotent. Eventually the turned to the Nazi's to restore order and make them feel more secure. One of the things the Weimar government did in response to the street fights was to basically ban all private firearms ownership, which eventually made it a lot easier for the Nazis to implement their program without resistance.
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Re: Homeland Security Contracts for Vast New Detention Camps

Postby shortonoil » Fri 03 Feb 2006, 16:22:46

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Doly', 'A')nd why do they have to be detention camps, and not refugee camps?

That probably has to do with the linear feet of barbed wire per sq. foot and the number of guard towers and machine guns! ':shock:'
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Re: Homeland Security Contracts for Vast New Detention Camps

Postby shortonoil » Fri 03 Feb 2006, 16:52:45

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')hese Dillon Aero M134D six-barrel Gatling guns are being installed to protect what?


Looks like the same gun GE built for several years at their Burlington, VT plant. When I left there they had warehouses full of the things. They usually fired them at 3K rounds per minute, but they could put out 6K if you were real careful not to melt the barrels down. At night when they tested them at their firing range in Essex, it looked like a column of fire coming out of hell. They didn’t go bang bang, they went purrrrr, then there was nothing left of what they were pointed at. Nothing! Guess they are expecting some heavy duty company.
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Re: Homeland Security Contracts for Vast New Detention Camps

Postby jato » Fri 03 Feb 2006, 17:13:45

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Re: Homeland Security Contracts for Vast New Detention Camps

Postby MicroHydro » Fri 03 Feb 2006, 18:02:58

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('bobbyald', 'I') always tend not to subscribe to “conspiracy theories” but I’m willing to give every point of view a fair hearing. Having done so I still believe man walked on the moon and I don’t believe in space aliens (Roswell etc) but I do believe the government lied about 911.

Good on you bobbyald!
9/11 truth does not have anything to do with any of the flaky issues you mentioned. Sites which talk about 9/11 truth along with aliens, moon hoaxes, ESP pills, or the illuminati are psyops disinformation fronts to discredit the 9/11 truth movement. This is a very old trick that the handlers of the corporate media and Hollywood have nurtured and has been going on for decades. Avoid those fake websites.

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Re: Homeland Security Contracts for Vast New Detention Camps

Postby smallpoxgirl » Fri 03 Feb 2006, 18:46:56

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jato', '[')url=http://vampirebat.com/war/gatlinggun.wmv]WMV video-gatling guns-5 MB[/url]

Holy crap!!! 8O Did you see the tidal wave of ricochets coming off? No wonder people don't want that used in a populated area. That's just an invitation for some tweaked out Wackenhut to freak out and cut loose on a racoon climbing the fence and take out a house full of people.
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Re: Homeland Security Contracts for Vast New Detention Camps

Postby pilferage » Fri 03 Feb 2006, 18:58:46

I think those were the tracers or shrapnel, not the actual bullets going every way but sideways. But, if this thing were used in an urban environment, it'd take out it's target, and what was behind it's target, and what was behind that, etc....
Not something that's good for crowd control. :(
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Re: Homeland Security Contracts for Vast New Detention Camps

Postby MicroHydro » Fri 03 Feb 2006, 19:19:15

Re: Livermore. The former Camp Parks is a mostly vacant, mildly radioactive area of the Livermore grounds that was used to house protestors in the 1980s. Camp Parks is also a standby FEMA internment facility. The gatling guns on vehicles are most likely to be used to control internees at Camp Parks when TSHTF. I am sure there are lots of people in SF and Berkeley that TPTB would like to put in Camp Parks.

PS: Of note, my long ago ex was a scientist at Livermore. Livermore got through the height of the cold war, the 1960s riots and antiwar protests without gatling guns. And back then Livermore had actual nukes. There has not been any significant nuclear material at Livermore for more than a decade. A wannabe dirty bomber could get more isotopes by raiding a hospital.

PPS: When I was a teenaged airman in SAC in the 1970s, we had a huge stockpile of strategic (big) nukes at Beale AFB. They were protected by two rows of fencing, some dogs, and a few guys with M-16s. This was when actual domestic terrorist wannabes like the Weathermen and SLA were at large in Northern California.
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Re: Homeland Security Contracts for Vast New Detention Camps

Postby pilferage » Fri 03 Feb 2006, 23:19:04

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', 'a') tracer is a bullet white phosphorus-tipped but just as lethal. They are interspersed with the regular bullets to track the fire.

So that's shrapnel then? I wouldn't think the bullets from a high powered gun like that would strike a car and fly off at perpendicular angles.
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Re: Homeland Security Contracts for Vast New Detention Camps

Postby shortonoil » Fri 03 Feb 2006, 23:23:05

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MicroHydro', 'T')he gatling guns on vehicles are most likely to be used to control internees at Camp Parks when TSHTF. I am sure there are lots of people in SF and Berkeley that TPTB would like to put in Camp Parks.

I used to work at the plant that built these monstrosities. Mini-guns and Vulcan Cannons, 30 and 50 caliper. Even the idea of using these WMD, which they are, on the American populous is nothing but complete mind blowing insanity. I hate to tell you folks, but the US government has gone completely F**Ken out of their minds. Placing these weapon, for use inside of this country, is nothing short of psychopathic behavior equal to anything any despot in history has ever done. The image of a street full of American citizens being coped into shredded meat absolutely horrifies me. We are undoubtedly being governed by absolute complete madmen.
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