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Unread postby NevadaGhosts » Thu 02 Feb 2006, 23:55:57

Homeland Security Contracts for Vast New Detention Camps
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A') Halliburton subsidiary has just received a $385 million contract from the Department of Homeland Security to provide "temporary detention and processing capabilities."
The contract -- announced Jan. 24 by the engineering and construction firm KBR -- calls for preparing for "an emergency influx of immigrants, or to support the rapid development of new programs" in the event of other emergencies, such as "a natural disaster." The release offered no details about where Halliburton was to build these facilities, or when.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '"')Almost certainly this is preparation for a roundup after the next 9/11 for Mid-Easterners, Muslims and possibly dissenters," says Daniel Ellsberg, a former military analyst who in 1971 released the Pentagon Papers, the U.S. military's account of its activities in Vietnam. "They've already done this on a smaller scale, with the 'special registration' detentions of immigrant men from Muslim countries, and with Guantanamo."
Plans for detention facilities or camps have a long history, going back to fears in the 1970s of a national uprising by black militants. As Alonzo Chardy reported in the Miami Herald on July 5, 1987, an executive order for continuity of government (COG) had been drafted in 1982 by FEMA head Louis Giuffrida. The order called for "suspension of the Constitution" and "declaration of martial law." The martial law portions of the plan were outlined in a memo by Giuffrida's deputy, John Brinkerhoff.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')hen in response to Hurricane Katrina in Sept. 2005, according to the Washington Post, White House senior adviser Karl Rove told the governor of Louisiana, Kathleen Babineaux Blanco, that she should explore legal options to impose martial law "or as close as we can get." The White House tried vigorously, but ultimately failed, to compel Gov. Blanco to yield control of the state National Guard.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')t is clear that the Bush administration is thinking seriously about martial law.
Many critics have alleged that FEMA's spectacular failure to respond to Katrina followed from a deliberate White House policy: of paring back FEMA, and instead strengthening the military for responses to disasters.

A multimillion program for detention facilities will greatly increase NORTHCOM's ability to respond to any domestic disorders.

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Unread postby gego » Fri 03 Feb 2006, 01:05:04

The ACLU is calling the Republicans the equivalent of the NAZI's. So not they are building concentration camps. I wonder if they thought to include ovens? Maybe burning corpses will be their solution to energy shortages.
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Unread postby dukey » Fri 03 Feb 2006, 01:10:40

nazi? scary i was thinking the same thing. i dont know whether to laugh or cry at this
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Unread postby hotsacks » Fri 03 Feb 2006, 02:09:47

$385 million dollars is a lot of money.
Say it cost them $50./sq. ft. to build barrack style shelters.That's close to 8 million square feet of barracks.Knock off a third for infrastructure and security.Say 5 million square and allow 50 square feet per person.That's housing for 100.000 people...er,citizens.
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Unread postby MicroHydro » Fri 03 Feb 2006, 02:27:23

FEMA has had some crude holding facilities (little more than fenced fields on government lands) on standby for over 20 years. A few like Pearblossom in Palmdale, CA have a little more infrastructure. But really they have a long way to go if they are to be used for anything more sophisticated than Cambodian style killing fields.

Enter Halliburton. They also have the contract to build the new, larger, and permanent camp at Gitmo. With huge supplies of tax dollars, they will finally give red state America what it wants, a modern full service Gulag.
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Unread postby Grimnir » Fri 03 Feb 2006, 02:37:32

The Republicans are Nazis? Nah. Kunstler's got it right: the Repubs are the people who get you so disgusted with the government that you beg the Nazis to take over and set things straight.
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Unread postby Zardoz » Fri 03 Feb 2006, 04:49:49

Here's Halliburton's page with the announcement:

KBR AWARDED U.S. DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY CONTINGENCY SUPPORT PROJECT FOR EMERGENCY SUPPORT SERVICES

"...an Indefinite Delivery/Indefinite Quantity (IDIQ) contract..."

They can build as many of these concentration camps as will be required in order to...

"...support the rapid development of new programs."

"New programs?" Oh, really? And just what might those "programs" be???
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Unread postby coyote » Fri 03 Feb 2006, 05:23:04

And here's the press release carried by Reuters, the only mainstream news source I could find on it.

Let's take Halliburton at their word at the moment, and believe that these huge camps are there to be prepared "in the event of an emergency influx of immigrants into the U.S." Why is the administration suddenly worried about that?
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Unread postby Doly » Fri 03 Feb 2006, 06:33:11

It's probably completely unrelated, I know, but I'm beginning to wonder what Hitler said to explain the building of concentration camps.
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Unread postby Battle_Scarred_Galactico » Fri 03 Feb 2006, 06:53:39

Nazis or Stalin ? Not quite, but as the desperation grows (and we're not even trying to alieviate it) we could find ourselves there.

1930's politics here we come....
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Unread postby Chocky » Fri 03 Feb 2006, 08:18:50

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')t's probably completely unrelated, I know, but I'm beginning to wonder what Hitler said to explain the building of concentration camps.

Pretty sure the first ones were for politcal prisoners and dissidents, mainly communists, and that the Nazi government said as much, emphasising the threat they posed etc, etc.
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Unread postby bobbyald » Fri 03 Feb 2006, 09:04:17

A few weeks ago I would have said that this thread was going too far.
The USA being compared to the Nazis is just too ridiculous.

However, having done the PO bit to death, I’ve recently been catching up on 911, Bohemian grove, The Illuminati, Iraq, Iran, Gold, the dollar etc. and I must say it certainly is interesting reading.

I always tend not to subscribe to “conspiracy theories” but I’m willing to give every point of view a fair hearing. Having done so I still believe man walked on the moon and I don’t believe in space aliens (Roswell etc) but I do believe the government lied about 911.

For me the turning point was the pictures of the Pentagon after the supposed plane crash but before the wall collapsed. You don’t need to be an expert or accept anything anyone else says just look at the video/pictures and make your own mind up. I have done this and cannot see how a plane crashed here and so the government lied.

Once you can establish that your dealing with a group of people that are so extreme and have so little respect for human life then everything else must be seriously questioned.

Recent events in the USA don’t look good and things are deteriorating much quicker than I thought possible – Why the hell are they taking away people’s rights and why are they building these camps?
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Unread postby rushdy » Fri 03 Feb 2006, 09:56:52

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('bobbyald', 'W')hy the hell are they taking away people’s rights and why are they building these camps?

For us, we all know too much.. :wink:
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Unread postby jackal42 » Fri 03 Feb 2006, 10:03:23

Does the uk have anything similar??
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Unread postby Zardoz » Fri 03 Feb 2006, 10:13:28

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Unread postby bobbyald » Fri 03 Feb 2006, 10:29:37

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'D')oes the uk have anything similar??

Not really. We have holding centres for illegal immigrants. This was a prominent issue in the media a year or two back but all has gone quiet now. As we are a small island the problem of where to put them seem to take the most air time.
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Unread postby Zardoz » Fri 03 Feb 2006, 11:18:04

According to Halliburton Watch, it isn't so much about a Weimar Republic scenario as it is about simply sending business to the administration's favorite contractor:

Halliburton gets 'immigration emergency' contract as prosecutions skyrocket in its hometown

Let's hope they're right, and it's just Business As Usual...
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Re: Homeland Security Contracts for Vast New Detention Camps

Unread postby aahala » Fri 03 Feb 2006, 11:18:40

There are plenty of real dangers in the world. There's no need to get our panties in a wad over some wingnut, tinfoil news article.
The reason this news has not been widely circulated in the main line media is that there is no basis for it. Our concern over FEMA should be if they will show up on time with the goods; it's virtually impossible to believe FEMA is a danger. How can one even use the word FEMA and effectiveness in the same sentence?

A $380 million government contract to a subsidiary of Halliburton will result in a truckload on cocktail napkins. Halliburton and the gang have multi-billion dollar contracts to provide security in Iraq, build up the the electrical grid, and the oil intrastructure. Look at any of your daily newspapers the last three years, you do see even an iota of real results?
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Unread postby gnm » Fri 03 Feb 2006, 11:25:56

Don't be so hard on them Aahala.... Look what a good job FEMA did in New Orleans. They totally had the situation under control. Efficent , organized, ok ok I can't go on :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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