Hmm, not much talk about this, makes it sound like "just one of those thhings" like lightning or a tree branch made it happen, but it was saboteurs, insurgents, who did it.
I don't want the Iraquis on my doorstep but I admire their fighting against occupation in their own country.
Let's them stay there and we stay here........
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THE Iraqi Civil War Thread (merged)
Iraq Blackout
by I_Like_Plants » Tue 23 Aug 2005, 01:09:21
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Re: Iraq Blackout
by MicroHydro » Tue 23 Aug 2005, 03:44:10
Despite the news stories about dead soldier, the Iraqi resistance concentrates on infrastructure. They know the US is there for the oil, and the resistance is doing everything possible to make sure the Yanks don't get it.
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Re: Iraq Blackout
by I_Like_Plants » Tue 23 Aug 2005, 04:17:43
If they're smart that's what they're after, to attack the infrastructure. We have a LOT of people we can send over as soldiers, but there is only "so much" infrastructure, pipelines, etc there and it's much more effective to attack that - make the war cost, wear us down.
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Terrorist "Great Escape" foiled!
by Specop_007 » Thu 25 Aug 2005, 00:42:20
Specop thinks these terrorists are suddenly much more clever and ingenious then we had previously thought.
Specop also thinks the terrorists have been watching too much Hollywood TV, although apparently in this case it was good inspiration.
Specop just thinks they had poor execution of the plan.
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Iraqis foiled just hours before their Great Escape from US prison camp
By Oliver Poole in Baghdad
(Filed: 25/08/2005)
Hundreds of Iraqi prisoners held in one of America's most heavily fortified jails were hours from escaping through a 357ft tunnel dug with shovels fashioned from tent poles, the United States has revealed.
The Iraqi prisoners had been digging for three months without detection in an operation their American guards have nicknamed The Great Escape after the Hollywood film of the 1944 breakout by British prisoners of war from Stalag Luft III.
Soil was dragged to the surface in five-gallon water jugs tethered to 200ft of rope and then spread across the prison's football pitch.
A brief report of the find at Camp Bucca, a military prison in southern Iraq where 6,000 detainees are held, was made public in March. But it only emerged yesterday how close the inmates had got to freedom when the camp's officers gave out details of the plot.
The tunnel was conceived by 600 Sunni inmates held in one of the 12 compounds at the site, where prisoners are housed in tents or plywood buildings with corrugated roofs. Work began beneath the wooden floorboards of one of the tents. Teams worked after dark, digging about three feet each night.
Lights were built from radio diodes and the sides made firm with milk. The exit was hidden under cardboard and opened into a partly concealed trench.
The guards had suspected something was wrong. Satellite imagery had shown the football field changing colour. Some of the soil had also been placed under floorboards, causing them to rise, while two dozen toilets had been clogged with soil.
Four informants had told them of a tunnel but none would say where. But on March 24, the day on which the escape was due, another informant revealed in which compound to look.
Guards put prisoners into a holding area and destroyed the tunnel with a bulldozer. "These guys moved 10 tons of soil in eight weeks," the prison's assistant operations officer, Lt Shawn Talmadge, told the Washington Post.
"The tunnel, it's like perfectly made. It's nice and smooth. Extremely intelligent, these guys are."
Eight days later, Shia detainees in a nearby compound rioted after four clerics held at the camp were put in a maximum security area. The US responded with rubber bullets and tear gas.
The riot was only suppressed when 200 heavily armed troops surrounded the compound and a helicopter was brought in to flatten the tents with the downdraught from its rotors.
Specop also thinks the terrorists have been watching too much Hollywood TV, although apparently in this case it was good inspiration.
Specop just thinks they had poor execution of the plan.
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Iraqis foiled just hours before their Great Escape from US prison camp
By Oliver Poole in Baghdad
(Filed: 25/08/2005)
Hundreds of Iraqi prisoners held in one of America's most heavily fortified jails were hours from escaping through a 357ft tunnel dug with shovels fashioned from tent poles, the United States has revealed.
The Iraqi prisoners had been digging for three months without detection in an operation their American guards have nicknamed The Great Escape after the Hollywood film of the 1944 breakout by British prisoners of war from Stalag Luft III.
Soil was dragged to the surface in five-gallon water jugs tethered to 200ft of rope and then spread across the prison's football pitch.
A brief report of the find at Camp Bucca, a military prison in southern Iraq where 6,000 detainees are held, was made public in March. But it only emerged yesterday how close the inmates had got to freedom when the camp's officers gave out details of the plot.
The tunnel was conceived by 600 Sunni inmates held in one of the 12 compounds at the site, where prisoners are housed in tents or plywood buildings with corrugated roofs. Work began beneath the wooden floorboards of one of the tents. Teams worked after dark, digging about three feet each night.
Lights were built from radio diodes and the sides made firm with milk. The exit was hidden under cardboard and opened into a partly concealed trench.
The guards had suspected something was wrong. Satellite imagery had shown the football field changing colour. Some of the soil had also been placed under floorboards, causing them to rise, while two dozen toilets had been clogged with soil.
Four informants had told them of a tunnel but none would say where. But on March 24, the day on which the escape was due, another informant revealed in which compound to look.
Guards put prisoners into a holding area and destroyed the tunnel with a bulldozer. "These guys moved 10 tons of soil in eight weeks," the prison's assistant operations officer, Lt Shawn Talmadge, told the Washington Post.
"The tunnel, it's like perfectly made. It's nice and smooth. Extremely intelligent, these guys are."
Eight days later, Shia detainees in a nearby compound rioted after four clerics held at the camp were put in a maximum security area. The US responded with rubber bullets and tear gas.
The riot was only suppressed when 200 heavily armed troops surrounded the compound and a helicopter was brought in to flatten the tents with the downdraught from its rotors.
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Interview with Iraqi insurgents... (you won't regret it)
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US governors making outrageous statements about Iraq
by NevadaGhosts » Tue 24 Jan 2006, 23:27:15
Four U.S. Governors Meet GIs in Iraq
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'B')ut Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee said the Sunni-led insurgency was losing momentum even though insurgent attacks rose over the past year.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'B')ut Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee said the Sunni-led insurgency was losing momentum even though insurgent attacks rose over the past year.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '"')A light bulb burns very brightly right before it goes out," Huckabee said of the insurgency during his first trip to Iraq. "The insurgents know they have everything to lose if democracy continues."
But he also asked for patience from the American public.
"For us to expect that this is going to be rock solid and peaceful is unrealistic," Huckabee said. "Americans are impatient people. We are a people who like things solved quickly."
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'P')erry, from President Bush's home state, told FOX News that he sees progress in Iraq.
"Obviously you're not going to rebuild a country overnight, but I think this is going along very well," Perry said.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '"')The troops have a very high morale and are very committed to the mission, and I think would very much agree with that definition," said Doyle.
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Seems to me that the insurgency in Iraq is stronger than ever with no end in sight. US Army casualties are piling up each month. US Army recruitment is falling fast. How can these elected US governors sit there with a straight face and make these kinds of idiotic claims? Guess they forgot to mention that the US Army is at it's breaking point in Iraq:
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