[Guest]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ubercynicmeister', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MR_SHERRILL', 'I') am shocked... Are you guys saying what I think you are saying on this site. The world is about to blow up around us????

[Schneider]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MR_SHERRILL', 'I') am shocked... Are you guys saying what I think you are saying on this site. The world is about to blow up around us????

[aldente]

Schneider, what a kid you are, as if vitamin pills or dried fruit or sleeping bags would help the matter.

You can help yourself that way for a short second in time but this has virtually no effect to the rest of the world (inclunding us remaining PeakOilers). Could you please be a bit more constructive other than thinking of you own personal wellbeing?

My take on it is principally an unusual one, which includes the most extreme - approaching the element time as such - as absurd that might sound. Then again, we might be polishing a diamond here without knowing it.

[crapattack]

MR_SHERRILL, "It's REAL???". I've known about PO for about 3 months now and I'm still saying that occasionally. There are times when I just can't really believe it...like tonite, siting in my fave Tai restaurant and all I could think about was how it might not be there much longer. This isn't real life, I thought. Real life is about lights and cars and computers and everything we take for granted. It's just impossible that all that could go away. Over the months and weeks I have tried to educate myself about this matter it has started to sink in and seem more plausible.

Unfortuneately your life will never be quite what it was now you know this, but you do have a 'window of opportunity' to make a plan that can save your life. I recommend you educate yourself, rent or buy End of Suburbia on DVD at Life After the Oil Crash as it is an excellent primer. It doesn't cover the economic/banking side of things so much but it will give you a good background in the issue in most other ways. Matt's site is also one of the best online for PO info and resources. Come back and join us here, there's always folks here that are ready to hear you out, help you clarify your thinking, run ideas past, and kick your butt if they think you're wrong.

[aldente]

crapattack, your post is of excellent tune. After all the system might not be determined to fall apart completely. Stay away from the doomers, they are nothing but suckers, since there's nothing they can offer anyway - just be sorry for their mothers...

Keep up the good work, we're right on track due to your input! It's all interactive, dont't forget, a second in time can be an enormous amount of time..

[RacerJace]

Oh please don't delve into yet another round or doomer bashing.. We're people too. And most of us are just misunderstood realists and not the "apocalyptic, negative, laugh menically with a bowie knife in hand" nut cases often described by those that are too fearful to consider the true nature of humanity in a crisis.

Knowing the consequence of peak oil ... be it cascading into peak energy and peak food and peak population... is a very heavy burden an will change the way you view the world around you. But as an optimist once said "you gotta die one day". My best advice is cast away consumerism, use your new found knowledge wisely to sieze opportunities as the coming changes will bring many opportunities to prosper. Look for the beauty and wonder in the simple things in life. Enjoy the opulence of today but look forward to 'smart and strong' being the cornerstones of life in the future. Read the posts in this forum with the 'bullshit filter' turned up to maximum and learn to use critical thinking when considering what is written.

And best of luck.

.

[Omnitir]

Don’t let it get to you too much. It’s all very interesting and educational, but at the end of the day no one knows the future. Doomers seem so certain of how things are going to play out, yet they are completely closed to possible solutions.

A decade from now we’ll probably all look back and marvel at how ridiculous our fears were. Sure things will change, but it won’t be the end of the world.

It’s also worth noting that some of the biggest doomers of all often have vested interests in doom mongering.

[Aaron]

New guy attracts peakers like the fresh meat he is...

It's kinda like those National Geographic movies where the vultures descend on the most recent corpse that falls.

A little creepy yes?

We are truly social creatures are we not? Even among depletionists, (which is the one label that almost nobody here would shun), we divide into camps.

Us & Them.

In my heart of hearts, I believe that this condition is at once our best quality, & our worst enemy.

The competition this division creates has driven human intellectual development to unforeseen heights; but it's also created unimagined horrors of exploitation & runaway expectations of never-ending growth & prosperity.

If someone had asserted 150 years ago that humanity would transition from waterwheel to steam to coal to oil over the next century or so they would have been quite correct.

We therefore assume that a similar transition will happen from conventional oil to whatever.

Hardly reassuring is it?

We divide & fight during prosperous times... One shudders to think about how our world might change faced with growing energy poverty.

Fortunes have been made & squandered... nations born and toppled over less.

I imagine a great many unforeseen developments will happen as things unfold which 1) are impossible to predict & 2) vastly affect the outcome of future events.

But it's difficult to imagine that the most significant transition in human history will pass, without the most significant birthing pains in history.

Which is a PC way of saying that the have/have not gap will grow during a depletion scenario, and that we will do what we always do...

Fight

[aldente]

2) vastly effect the outcome of futere events...

love it, love it, love it..

Aaron, you old hog- I do not know of anyone who holds the grail of knowlegedge with such accuracy as you do.

Darn, what a world we live in...

All I can encourage is "telepathy" since there will be no guarantee for information transmission after the "sensitive and special period of time that we are bound to enjoy soon.

[Guest]

Come on albente ..

I did theses 5 advices for the NEWCOMERS..most of the time,they are in a state of pure PANIC..i made theses to calm them down..something like "Okay,i got what i need for my short term survival,time to calmly think about the whole thing..." !

If you read a bit lower in the thread,you will see that i myself make the statement to NOT blindly follow the doomers,that i'm myself one of them and that they need to make up their mind on their own ..

And anyway,just think it like a life insurance : the small kit made out of the advices could have helped a LOT some peoples in New Orleans for pete sake !


Schneider
French-Canadian

[aldente]

Schneider, I still stay cross with your egocentic approach.
Man - get yourself a wife. as bad as this sounds but it is after 5000 years referred to as common sense.
To act in one's own interest, particularly when it comes to survival mode stinks, is boring and gets you nowhere.

[Schneider]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('albente', 'S')chneider, I still stay cross with your egocentic approach.
Man - get yourself a wife. as bad as this sounds but it is after 5000 years referred to as common sense.
To act in one's own interest, particularly when it comes to survival mode stinks, is boring and gets you nowhere.

We have no choice but to give in , the ***beast is bigger,,,

[killJOY]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('\"Guest\" who signs name \"Matt,\"', 'e')xternality

[aldente]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Schneider', '
')
We have to begin somewhere,aren't we !? And keep in mind that one can hardly help others if he's himself in the troubles up to his neck..

Let's say that we agree that we disagree !

Schneider
French-Canadian

[DigitalCubano]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('killJOY', 'T')he fact that "economics" even "defines" critical concepts like "environment," "climate," etc. as "externalities" tells me that it is a goddamn pseudoscience.

[DigitalCubano]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Anonymous', 'T')he nuclear thread is an excellent example. Plenty of people with lots of figures but guess what? It ain't going to happen in real life. Rearranging massive parts of an incredibly leveraged economy run by corrupt insiders and their incompetent cronies during an unprecendented crisis isn't as simple as moving legos - or numbers on the back of an envelope - around.

[AmericanEmpire]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I') find that your condemnation of economics is a bit premature.

[DigitalCubano]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AmericanEmpire', 'T')he only thing I need to know about an economist is that they believe in infinite growth in a finite world. That tells me that the whole modern business world is built on a flaw.

[Guest]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('DigitalCubano', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AmericanEmpire', 'T')he only thing I need to know about an economist is that they believe in infinite growth in a finite world. That tells me that the whole modern business world is built on a flaw.

[bartholland]

Anyone noticed that MR_SHERRIL did not reply anymore?

Hahaha, hope he doesn't live in east Turkey or something.

Quit a lot of interesting replies on a first post,
a promissing new member