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A shortage of sons

Unread postby Leanan » Mon 19 Dec 2005, 01:01:14

Polluted Town Short of Boys

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'S')omebody pointed out that the reserve had fielded three girls' baseball teams in a recent year and only one boys' team. Lockridge thought about herself and her two sisters, with eight daughters among them and only one son.

The question was not as offhand as it seemed. "I had been interested in sex ratio as an indicator a very sensitive indicator of effects going on as a result of exposure to chemicals," Gilbertson said in a recent interview.

...The percentage of boys started dropping below 50 percent around 1993. It is now approaching 30 percent, with no sign of leveling off.
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Re: A shortage of sons

Unread postby UIUCstudent01 » Mon 19 Dec 2005, 01:45:46

:cry: Another reason why I really want wind power to just take off...
Even clean coal is probably going to have a large amount of pollutants if we ramp its production up to the amounts necessary to make a dent for making gasoline..
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Re: A shortage of sons

Unread postby aldente » Mon 19 Dec 2005, 01:46:11

I would say that ratio is great news for the guys...
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Re: A shortage of sons

Unread postby UIUCstudent01 » Mon 19 Dec 2005, 02:57:21

Err.. not really. Theres other problems then just a skewage of the sexes... probably more intersex stuff... and lots more health problems.
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Re: A shortage of sons

Unread postby Cyrus » Mon 19 Dec 2005, 06:43:35

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('albente', 'I') would say that ratio is great news for the guys...
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F*ck yeah!

What? Can't I laugh? This shit is freaky...
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Re: A shortage of sons

Unread postby drew » Mon 19 Dec 2005, 08:44:09

Holy Crap, in my backyard. I thought the picture was from China. That pollution must be pretty scary to do that.

Still though, lucky guys (unless they have three nuts, that is), having two girls for every one of them. Ah, melange, melange!

Maybe they can even do it legally as married couples.

With same sex marriage, our near future lax pot laws, and all our other liberal traits Americans and our own conservatives love to hate, why not?

Native self government is cropping up all over reserves up north. Maybe one of these young guys is gonna figure out how to get some polygyny going on just because he can....


Polygyny with three nuts

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Ah how quickly one forgets his Greek:

Polygyny-most guys major fantasy

Polygamy-legal marriage (would it still be as fun???)

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Re: A shortage of sons

Unread postby The_Virginian » Mon 19 Dec 2005, 16:43:25

Less men will mean more control by the female population.

Amazon state here we come.... :razz:

No doubt Gender Bender Chemicals are Fugging up humanity, Females are Graced by God with a double set of Chromosomes....

So any dammage in them geneticaly will take longer to show. And it only takes one man to 4-10 willing females to keep the population growing.

As for Poligyny, feminists actualy do recognize that in many societies, it keeps women MORE INDEPENDENT. Provides co-wives for high qaulity-guilt free child care, and more freedom running the Home...as the man is not there all the time (when the man provides a seprate home).
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Re: A shortage of sons

Unread postby Dezakin » Mon 19 Dec 2005, 18:29:06

A shortage of sons leads to higher population growth rates just as a shortage of daughters has it the other way around.

I'll leave the obvious mechanisms of why up to the reader.
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Re: A shortage of sons

Unread postby ubercynicmeister » Mon 19 Dec 2005, 19:12:00

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('The_Virginian', 'N')o doubt Gender Bender Chemicals are Fugging up humanity, Females are Graced by God with a double set of Chromosomes....

So any dammage in them geneticaly will take longer to show. And it only takes one man to 4-10 willing females to keep the population growing.


Wake up, will you? Where do you think the huge rise in female-only cancers (Breast cancer, ovarian cancer, cevical cancer) are coming from?

Two main causes, (smoking and chemical pollutants) one chemical: estrogen.

Have a google search for estrogen dominance, and you will see where a lot of the violence is coming from too: estrogen dominance.

Where's the estrogen coming from? Various pollutants, such as DDT & it's break-down product, DDE; plastics of all sorts; the hormonal-type contraceptive (in about equal parts, too). Smoking aso seems to add to it and hops-type beer (rather than the older, meade-type) both have a very high level of phyto estrogen.

And the female-only cancers get 20 times more funding as what male-only cancers get (testicular cancer, prostate cancer) all of which are on the rise as eostrogen dominance makes it's presence felt.

Mind you, the idiot Politically Correct still insist that Medical Research discriminates against women perhaps because there's only 2000% more money going to women, exclusively, as versus men?

Medical Research exclusively devoted to women-only issues: 20% of the total.

Medical Research exclusively devoted to MEN-only issues: 1% of total monies spent.

But that's still discriminatory against women.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')s for Poligyny, feminists actualy do recognize that in many societies, it keeps women MORE INDEPENDENT. Provides co-wives for high qaulity-guilt free child care, and more freedom running the Home...as the man is not there all the time (when the man provides a seprate home).


This used to be the way in the West: with "extended familes", there really was free-childcare. But, of course, extended familes were discriminatory, so they had to go.

So, we should all welcome this change? Only if we like early-onset cancer.
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Re: A shortage of sons

Unread postby eric_b » Mon 19 Dec 2005, 21:46:43

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ubercynicmeister', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('The_Virginian', 'N')o doubt Gender Bender Chemicals are Fugging up humanity, Females are Graced by God with a double set of Chromosomes....

So any dammage in them geneticaly will take longer to show. And it only takes one man to 4-10 willing females to keep the population growing.


Wake up, will you? Where do you think the huge rise in female-only cancers (Breast cancer, ovarian cancer, cevical cancer) are coming from?

Two main causes, (smoking and chemical pollutants) one chemical: estrogen.

Have a google search for estrogen dominance, and you will see where a lot of the violence is coming from too: estrogen dominance.

Where's the estrogen coming from? Various pollutants, such as DDT & it's break-down product, DDE; plastics of all sorts; the hormonal-type contraceptive (in about equal parts, too). Smoking aso seems to add to it and hops-type beer (rather than the older, meade-type) both have a very high level of phyto estrogen.



Yeah, those phthalates - chemicals used to soften plastics - are now found everywhere in the
environment. Even in the middle of the pacific ocean large amounts of junk plastic and
associated chemicals (endocrine disruptors) can now be found.

Even more frightening, these chemicals appear to do the most damage at very low
concentrations (parts-per-trillion) to developing fetuses. If you want to damage someone
permanently, this is the time to do it. In the womb. It's been found that mothers that don't
get adequate nutrition while pregnant can predispose their offspring to all sorts of
problems later in life. SO imagine how these environmental toxins are affecting things.
Talk about being nipped in the bud.

Humanity is growing so quickly and affecting the environment to such an extent that it's
like a bomb going off. I feel it will take some time before the full extent of the damage can
be asessed, assuming it's even possible before it's too late.
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Re: A shortage of sons

Unread postby The_Virginian » Tue 20 Dec 2005, 12:54:22

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ubercynicmeister', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('The_Virginian', 'N')o doubt Gender Bender Chemicals are Fugging up humanity, Females are Graced by God with a double set of Chromosomes....

So any dammage in them geneticaly will take longer to show. And it only takes one man to 4-10 willing females to keep the population growing.


Wake up, will you? Where do you think the huge rise in female-only cancers (Breast cancer, ovarian cancer, cevical cancer) are coming from?

Two main causes, (smoking and chemical pollutants) one chemical: estrogen.

Have a google search for estrogen dominance, and you will see where a lot of the violence is coming from too: estrogen dominance.

Where's the estrogen coming from? Various pollutants, such as DDT & it's break-down product, DDE; plastics of all sorts; the hormonal-type contraceptive (in about equal parts, too). Smoking aso seems to add to it and hops-type beer (rather than the older, meade-type) both have a very high level of phyto estrogen.

And the female-only cancers get 20 times more funding as what male-only cancers get (testicular cancer, prostate cancer) all of which are on the rise as eostrogen dominance makes it's presence felt.

Mind you, the idiot Politically Correct still insist that Medical Research discriminates against women perhaps because there's only 2000% more money going to women, exclusively, as versus men?

Medical Research exclusively devoted to women-only issues: 20% of the total.

Medical Research exclusively devoted to MEN-only issues: 1% of total monies spent.

But that's still discriminatory against women.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')s for Poligyny, feminists actualy do recognize that in many societies, it keeps women MORE INDEPENDENT. Provides co-wives for high qaulity-guilt free child care, and more freedom running the Home...as the man is not there all the time (when the man provides a seprate home).


This used to be the way in the West: with "extended familes", there really was free-childcare. But, of course, extended familes were discriminatory, so they had to go.

So, we should all welcome this change? Only if we like early-onset cancer.



Uber,


First these early onset cancers Rarely occur in prime childbearing years... mostly after 35.

Secondly, I am Not Advocating Poly-ESTERS, or other petroluem based gender benders.

Shieeet no.

But have you stopped using plastics? Niether have I, though I am aware of recylce codes to weed out the worst of them. I only fear that society as a whole will continue it's steady decline into chemicalized hell.

So on that subject Relax, we are on the same side.




As for Polygyny, I advocate that 100% of the time, For those Men who can afford to support, and for consenting Women

Hypocrites who bang whores on the side, yet screach about mandatory monogamy are a dime a dozen.
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Re: A shortage of sons

Unread postby The_Toecutter » Tue 20 Dec 2005, 19:46:04

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')nother reason why I really want wind power to just take off...


It already has, technologically and economically speaking. Politically, no...



It's a sad state of affairs not only what we're doing to our environment, but also ourselves as a species. I wonder how many of these children are XY females and intersex...
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Re: A shortage of sons

Unread postby EnergySpin » Wed 21 Dec 2005, 07:13:47

Men have a future as sex slaves :roll:
Somehow, I do not see many men complaining about the implications.
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Re: A shortage of sons

Unread postby Raxozanne » Wed 21 Dec 2005, 11:04:52

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('The_Virginian', '
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As for Polygyny, I advocate that 100% of the time, For those Men who can afford to support, and for consenting Women

Hypocrites who bang whores on the side, yet screach about mandatory monogamy are a dime a dozen.
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I would only recommend it in this instance as polgamy can cause multiple arenas of conflict within the family home as co-wives will more often than not quarrel over limited resources for their respective children and take up any perceived grievances with the husband. There are several cases where men actually committed suicide because they found polgamy so stressful.

Generally not many women would willing agree to share a man as it is against their reproductive interest (resources will be lost to the other women and her children). Also I read somewhere that men with multiple wives are just as likely to cheat as men with one wife given the chance. A case in point was an African man with 36 wives who was still soliciting prostitutes. :shock:
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Re: A shortage of sons

Unread postby drew » Wed 21 Dec 2005, 21:59:18

Come on folks, your greek is even worse than mine (mine's bad!!)

Polygyny-a guy doing the nasty with a couple of girls or more, not necessarily at the same time

Polyandry-a girl doing the nasty with a couple or more dudes, also not necessarily at the same time, but also applies to Tibetan married households where inheritance of land is kept in the family. Two or three brothers will have one wife and share her sexually

Polygamy- marriage to multiple people-legal or not.

Gyne- woman, wife

Andros- man, husband

Game-marriage

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Re: A shortage of sons

Unread postby Raxozanne » Wed 21 Dec 2005, 22:39:12

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('drew', '
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What is this? I've never heard of a game-marriage.
What does it involve?
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Re: A shortage of sons

Unread postby Doly » Thu 22 Dec 2005, 04:52:24

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('grabby', '
')Today, in Africa, the average man has a couple wives and a couple girlfriends. nost families are raised by single women, all compete for attentions of the men.


If the male/female ratio is around 50%, that's just not possible. Every man that has a couple of wives means that there's another man that has none. And if the girlfriends are supposed to be single (not married to other men), then 3 out of 4 men don't have a stable relationship. Unless, of course, they share girlfriends, but in that case men would be competing for the attentions of single women, not the other way round.
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Re: A shortage of sons

Unread postby grabby » Thu 22 Dec 2005, 04:53:33

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Raxozanne', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('The_Virginian', '
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As for Polygyny, I advocate that 100% of the time, For those Men who can afford to support, and for consenting Women

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. A case in point was an African man with 36 wives who was still soliciting prostitutes. :shock:


Today, in Africa, the average man has a couple wives and a couple girlfriends. nost families are raised by single women, all compete for attentions of the men.
The men like it.
Aids rate is in some places 40 percent.

(My friend goes on hunting safarris and recently returned from there, they are AIDS a dime a dozen.)
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Re: A shortage of sons

Unread postby Raxozanne » Thu 22 Dec 2005, 05:28:33

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Doly', '
')If the male/female ratio is around 50%, that's just not possible. Every man that has a couple of wives means that there's another man that has none. And if the girlfriends are supposed to be single (not married to other men), then 3 out of 4 men don't have a stable relationship. Unless, of course, they share girlfriends, but in that case men would be competing for the attentions of single women, not the other way round.


It does happen and some men do go without (they tend to introduce something like bride price to regulate the 'bride market').
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Re: A shortage of sons

Unread postby drew » Thu 22 Dec 2005, 09:46:45

Game marriage- I've heard about those films...

I think the unions tend to be brief...

In all seriousness, I was being an ass.. (often, and frequently) (and not in movies)....

as, obviously gyne and andros will work as multiple partner marriage definitions by virtue of their definitions as 'wife' and 'husband'

Game......how the hell do I make the 'e' long....

should be pronounced 'gam-eh', but this root is probably way off the correct original.....

I got a c+ in 3rd year greek, when I decided I'd had enough...

I could go to the basement and get my greek dictionary...

Sad face..

Greeks should just shoot me and put you all out of your misery

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