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THE Rep. Roscoe Bartlett Thread (merged)

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Re: Bartlett, Hirsch, Aleklett go to Washington!

Unread postby MJ » Tue 06 Dec 2005, 07:51:58

Tnx, I'll try and have a look at the streaming tomorrow.
However, if half the members of the House are absent and the other half solving Mad magazine's puzzle in the meanwhile, there's little progress or understanding to be expected....
In general I believe it would be far more beneficial if people (and I'm referring to "the masses") would become aware. PO is well known in political mids, I'm sure they need no introduction to the matter.
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FoxNews: Bartlett on combatting oil shortage

Unread postby LadyRuby » Wed 07 Dec 2005, 22:17:45

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,178042,00.html

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he decline in world oil reserves is such a pressing and enormous problem that it will take a project of the same magnitude as putting a man on the moon to solve it, Rep. Roscoe Bartlett, R-Md., told House colleagues Wednesday.

In 1970, the United States already reached the halfway point of its oil production and has been facing diminishing supplies ever since. The rest of the world will soon approach the same "peak" or tipping point -- some experts project that will arrive as soon as 2015, but no later than 2030 -- and when it does, it will have to face numerous economic, political and social issues that come along with it.

"How and when we as individuals and government leaders will respond to global "peak oil" is what we need to address immediately," said Bartlett in his written statement before the House Subcommittee on Energy and Air Quality. "I believe global 'peak oil' presents our country with a challenge as daunting as the one that faced the astronauts and staff of the Apollo 13 program. Contingency planning, training, incredible ingenuity and collaboration to solve the problem brought the Apollo 13 astronauts back home safe."
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Re: FoxNews: Bartlett on combatting oil shortage

Unread postby Jack » Wed 07 Dec 2005, 23:54:00

With respect to the Honorable Congressman Bartlett...putting a man on the Moon was trivial by comparison.

We are dealing with the need - dare I say requirement? - for a complete paradigm shift on the way we use energy. We will, perforce, change the very structure of civilization.
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Re: FoxNews: Bartlett on combatting oil shortage

Unread postby dub_scratch » Thu 08 Dec 2005, 00:28:13

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jack', 'W')ith respect to the Honorable Congressman Bartlett...putting a man on the Moon was trivial by comparison.

We are dealing with the need - dare I say requirement? - for a complete paradigm shift on the way we use energy. We will, perforce, change the very structure of civilization.


I don't know if this is a meaningful observation, but putting a man on the moon was relatively easy because of oil. I cannot imagine a coal based industrial society finding the time and resources to do such a thing, though it would be theoretically highly possible.

Anyway, hats off to you Mr. Bartlett. Your courage and and commitment to your country has shone through in the past year more than any other politician I know of. You are a true American patriot and hero in my book.
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U.S. Rep. Bartlett discussing PO live on CSPAN right now

Unread postby Jellric » Tue 13 Dec 2005, 22:35:47

Speaking from the floor of the U.S. House of Representatives.

And look..he brought charts and graphs!
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Re: U.S. Rep. Bartlett discussing PO live on CSPAN right now

Unread postby LadyRuby » Tue 13 Dec 2005, 22:38:45

Which cpan? Do you have a link?
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Re: U.S. Rep. Bartlett discussing PO live on CSPAN right now

Unread postby Rabbit » Tue 13 Dec 2005, 22:55:17

I'm watching it now. Wow, he is not pulling any punches.
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Re: U.S. Rep. Bartlett discussing PO live on CSPAN right now

Unread postby Leanan » Tue 13 Dec 2005, 22:57:53

It's the regular cable channel C-SPAN.

They might put a video and/or transcript at their Web site:

http://www.cspan.org/
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Re: U.S. Rep. Bartlett discussing PO live on CSPAN right now

Unread postby Leanan » Tue 13 Dec 2005, 22:59:41

I just checked, and there's a live feed.

http://www.c-span.org/watch/cspan_rm.asp?Cat=TV&Code=CS
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Re: U.S. Rep. Bartlett discussing PO live on CSPAN right now

Unread postby qwanta » Tue 13 Dec 2005, 23:06:14

I was flipping channels, and nearly fell off my chair when I saw the peak oil graph with the "classic" world oil discoveries and world oil production curves.

It's a pretty good presentation. He's going over the inadequacy of alternative fuels at the moment.
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Re: U.S. Rep. Bartlett discussing PO live on CSPAN right now

Unread postby Rabbit » Tue 13 Dec 2005, 23:12:08

Listening to him is like taking this web site and compressing it down to a single talk. Hubbard's peak, tar sands, solar, corn energy, natural gas, energy Efficiency ratios, peak wood, it's all there.
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Re: U.S. Rep. Bartlett discussing PO live on CSPAN right now

Unread postby MattSavinar » Tue 13 Dec 2005, 23:26:15

I have to give the man credit for his tenacity. I hope I'm kicking as much ass when I'm his age as he is. (I think he is 80 years old!)
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Re: U.S. Rep. Bartlett discussing PO live on CSPAN right now

Unread postby Leanan » Tue 13 Dec 2005, 23:27:41

I suspect a lot of his rightwing cronies think he's gone senile. And the leftwingers think he's a rightwing dittohead, except for this weird peak oil thing.

From what I've heard, though, he's a very intelligent and accomplished man. He's got a PhD and has worked as a research scientist, professor, and inventor. He holds many patents. And he's a Seventh Day Adventist, which means he lives the way many think we'll all have to after the peak.
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Re: U.S. Rep. Bartlett discussing PO live on CSPAN right now

Unread postby UIUCstudent01 » Tue 13 Dec 2005, 23:48:22

I'm getting some lady talking about "Hurricane Republican"... about budget deficits and all.. So I guess I'm late to the party.. :razz:
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Re: U.S. Rep. Bartlett discussing PO live on CSPAN right now

Unread postby AlCzervik » Tue 13 Dec 2005, 23:55:30

I had to laugh because my dad called me and said "that peak oil thing you always talk about is on CSPAN!" I didn't catch the introduction, but it was an extremely smooth performance. My favorite chart had energy profit ratios and usefulness in transportation on opposite coordinates. I can't think of a clearer way to make the point that something like nuclear power will help keep the lights on, but it sucks for moving people and goods around the world.
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Re: U.S. Rep. Bartlett discussing PO live on CSPAN right now

Unread postby Jellric » Wed 14 Dec 2005, 00:09:52

According to Wikipedia he'll turn 80 next June. Looking good, baby!
Roscoe is tanned, rested, and ready. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roscoe_Bartlett
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Re: U.S. Rep. Bartlett discussing PO live on CSPAN right now

Unread postby thorn » Wed 14 Dec 2005, 10:01:46

I posted the text here
Others from before: http://www.xecu.net/thorn/PO/
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Bartlett & Udall Write Swedish Prime Minister about PO

Unread postby thorn » Wed 14 Dec 2005, 10:23:55

They have written to the Swedish Prime Minister about PO:
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'U').S. House Peak Oil Caucus Chairmen Reps. Roscoe Bartlett and Tom Udall Write Swedish Prime Minister and Commend Government of Sweden for Model National Commission on Oil Independence
Washington, DC – The chairmen of the United States House of Representatives Peak Oil Caucus, Congressmen Roscoe Bartlett and Tom Udall wrote a letter to Prime Minister Goran Persson of Sweden to commend him and the government of Sweden for its December 13, 2005 hearing about peak oil by the newly established National Commission on Oil Independence. The Commission has a goal of ensuring Sweden’s independence from oil by the year 2020.

Congressmen Bartlett and Udall informed Prime Minister Persson of the legislation that they have introduced H.R. 507 which expresses "the sense of the House of Representatives that the United States, in collaboration with other international allies, should establish an energy project with the magnitude, creativity, and sense of urgency that was incorporated in the `Man on the Moon' project to address the inevitable challenges of `Peak Oil'."

Congressman Bartlett and Udall concluded their letter with offers for future cooperative efforts. “We welcome the opportunity to become informed about the continuing efforts of the National Commission on Oil Independence and to initiate exchanges of information and opportunities for collaborative efforts by the Commission and the Peak Oil Caucus to benefit our citizens and our world.”


A copy of the letter:
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'D')ecember 12, 2005
The Honorable Goran Persson
Prime Minister of Sweden
Statsradsberedningen
Regeringskansliet
113 33 Stockholm
Sweden
Via e-mail: registrator@primeminister.ministry.se

Dear Mr. Persson:
As the founding co-chairmen of the Peak Oil Caucus of the United States House of Representatives, we are writing to commend you and the government of Sweden for the December 13, 2005 hearing about peak oil by the newly established National Commission on Oil Independence. It provides an important opportunity to discuss the imperative for achieving the goal of ensuring Sweden's independence from oil by 2020.

One hundred years ago at the start of the age of oil, world population was one billion. Now it's seven billion. Oil and the cheap energy it made possible has utterly transformed America and the world. In a very real sense, oil feeds the world.

During the 1940s and 1950s, American scientist M. King Hubbert identified that oil field production follows a bell curve reaching a peak of maximum production capacity when approximately half of the oil has been extracted. In 1956, he predicted that the United States would peak in production in 1970. He was right. 33 of 48 major oil producing nations have now peaked. Today, experts differ only on the timing of global peak oil. With world demand for oil increasing exponentially and no ready substitute of comparable energy density, the prospect of future and continuing declines in world oil production will inflict unprecedented pressures upon our people and national and international social, economic, and political institutions.

We have introduced legislation with twelve colleagues, House Resolution 507 (H.R. 507), which expresses "the sense of the House of Representatives that the United States, in collaboration with other international allies, should establish an energy project with the magnitude, creativity, and sense of urgency that was incorporated in the `Man on the Moon' project to address the inevitable challenges of `Peak Oil'."

Only through a combination of conservation and innovations in improved efficiency, and alternate and renewable sources of energy will we be able to meet the energy demands of the future. The National Commission on Oil Independence appointed by the government of Sweden is creating a model effort for the world in partnership with the private sector. We are very pleased that one of the Commission Members, Mr. Leif Johansson, Managing Director Volvo Trucks, represents a company that has chosen to partner with American businesses, such as Mack Truck, Inc., whose factory located in one of our districts has developed a hybrid electric powertrain. These types of partnerships will lead to greater innovation in energy efficiency and alternatives to contribute to achieving the goal of energy independence from oil.

We welcome the opportunity to become informed about the continuing efforts of the National Commission on Oil Independence and to initiate exchanges of information and opportunities for collaborative efforts by the Commission and the Peak Oil Caucus to benefit our citizens and our world.
Sincerely,
Roscoe G. Bartlett Tom Udall
Member of Congress Member of Congress

cc: The Honorable Gunnar Lund Ambassador of Sweden to the United States of America


Also quoted here: http://www.upi.com/InternationalIntelli ... 0018-3500r
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Re: Bartlett & Udall Write Swedish Prime Minister about

Unread postby Starvid » Wed 14 Dec 2005, 17:36:52

I saw the first oil comission hearing on TV a few days ago. The PM chairs it by himself. While Kjell Aleklett (chairman of the Association for the Study of Peak Oil & Gas, ASPO) is not a member of the comission he was present and said some good stuff.

This is a link to Aleklett's lecture http://regeringen.se/content/1/c6/05/48/80/d340bbed.ram
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Re: Bartlett & Udall Write Swedish Prime Minister about

Unread postby Eli » Wed 14 Dec 2005, 17:52:02

How much you wanna bet ol Roscoe has been to this site before. [smilie=eusa_think.gif]
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