[TorrKing]

No, not yet. I need time to prepare.

But I am not too motivated to prepare for PO now as I risk dying from bird flu next year. No need for knowledge in a dead brain.

Torjus Gaaren

[Lokutus]

The endless waiting for the collapse of civilization coupled with the recent drop in gas prices at the pump by over a dollar have made me downright suicidal.

Anyone else getting really depressed?

[TorrKing]

It happens all the time when I am involved. Maybe it is because I use linux?

Torjus Gaaren

[Lokutus]

Why is your reply ahead of my post?

Do you think you're better than me?

[mrniceguy]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Lokutus', 'T')he endless waiting for the collapse of civilization coupled with the recent drop in gas prices at the pump by over a dollar have made me downright suicidal.

Anyone else getting really depressed?

[dub_scratch]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Lokutus', 'T')he endless waiting for the collapse of civilization coupled with the recent drop in gas prices at the pump by over a dollar have made me downright suicidal.

Anyone else getting really depressed?

[Lokutus]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dub_scratch', ' ')Are you an anxious doomer?

[gnm]

By the time you can collect that $10, the preceding economic meltdown will have reduced its value to 10 cents.

Seriously why the heck would waiting for something nasty depress you? The longer we have the better I say - gives you more time to prepare for the MZB hordes..

-G

[dub_scratch]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Lokutus', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dub_scratch', ' ')Are you an anxious doomer?

[foodnotlawns]

I work as much overtime as possible to buy gold and silver and get equipment and heirloom seeds and ammo. I'm in no hurry for civilization to collapse, as I need to prepare.

Also, I am quite confident it will happen, I just don't know exactly when. I think things will be pretty interesting in the next 5 years.

But yeah, I'd be in no hurry if I was you, bub. Someday we'll all be saying, "I wish had done x before the collapse." I want to have as few of those regrets as possible.

I spend day after torturous day taking calls in this white collar sweatshop, and I dream of the day when the soccer moms and nba dads are starving in the streets and living in fear of the rabble they created through their irresponsible flight from reality.

[Micki]

You think PO happens over night?
Why do you think Simmons and the others say that you only see the peak in the rearview mirror?

But you are already getting a little taste of it.
Oil is again +$60, meaning some of the poorest buyers had to drop of.
Then it moves higher and further purchasers drop off.
Next there will be too few buyers as some of the major countries start to suffer and oil has got to come down again.
This time the low price depends on if we have a major or just a minor recession. i.e. we could enjoy $40 oil again (if we still have salary to buy anything)
PO will then be properly visible when the economy is ready to take off again and oil price shoots up like a rocket as the pumps can keep up and production doesn't go up to where it was.

So if we assume tightening supply now, we will have to wait 2+ years before we have evidence of global peak.

Alternatively, terrorists or further "accidents" at oil plants may hasten things up but this is something we can only speculate in.

That's at least how I envisage it happening.

[DigitalCubano]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dub_scratch', 'W')hat are you gonna do with $10 after collapse? Go to the mall or something?

[Lokutus]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('foodnotlawns', 'I') dream of the day when the soccer moms and nba dads are starving in the streets

[Dukat_Reloaded]

I really don't think anyone here is ready for PeakOil, except maybe Killjoy. Who here can say, I have everything ready, I'm ready for PO. I seriously doubt anyone here is fully ready, and won't ever be fully ready.

[IanC]

I'm sure that I'm not alone with fellow forum-posters/readers, in feeling a little less urgent about PO these days. When Katrina/Rita was going on, I was watching this site multiple times a day and waiting for Armegeddon. It never happened, of course.

I'm the sort that wants prices to remain high and supply to be tight so ignorant, uncurious sheeple and our leaders will take notice of PO and begin to work for a better future. Pocketbook issues are the only ones that get most people to act. I learned a lession after the hurricaines that PO is going to be a long transition that, as has been stated, we may only see in hindsight.

In maybe 20 years or so, I'll look back on these years and see how much things have changed. My goal is to prepare my children for scarcity and keep my family as insulated from big changes as possible.

-IanC
Portland, OR

[ubercynicmeister]

Nope, not here....I'm so darn BUSY I can't sink into a depression...and I'm unemployed, LOL! Now, if I had any debts, I'd be quaking in my boots, but, well, they don't loan money to unemployed people.

[alpha480v]

I'm not depressed or anything,just pissed off that this has to happen in my lifetime.I have a great job,great pay,am getting my back bills paid off.
Things are going good for me and my wife finaly.Then peak oil,and maybe bird flu comes along.

At first,I was trying to figure out how my wife and I were going to survive when the U.S. turns to shit.We bought 6 months worth of food,a food dehydrater,2 rifles with a couple hundred rounds of ammo each.We bought extra clothes,and spare shoes.We have a farm that we can retreat to when tshtf.(My mother in laws).We were planning on gardens,buying fruit trees,ect.Maybe some Rabbitts.There is ample game,and a lake nearby for fishing.Not alot of people around.A stream runs out back for fresh water.Lots of wood for heat.Sounds great,don't it?

Then I started to realize all the things that we would need to survive post peak,and figured the cost,along with the estimated time that I thought we had left,and realized that it was pointless to continue.The farm will need alot of work to get ready,and mucho denero.I don't have enogh money to live this current life,and plan for a future one.I have to do one or the other.I have decided to live for today.I simply found out about peak oil too late.

Am I going to roll over and die because of peak oil?No.I will try to survive somehow.I'm not a quitter,never was.But unless I win the New York Lottery,my wife and I will probably not survive long after tshtf.Oh well.Nothing I can do about geology.Were healthy.but most likely will die of the bird flu.Can't control that either.The healthy ones died in 1918 from the spanish flu.

I would love to been able to buy alot of gold in June when it was cheaper.Oh well,didn't have alot of free money then.Don't now either.

My wife will live for today.I will have things and enjoy things untill the end.That is all I can afford to do.

Peak oil and the crash will be survived by the wealthy,and the ones who found out about it soon enough,and could afford to plan for it.People like me will just fade away like old soldiers.

[Lokutus]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ubercynicmeister', 'N')ope, not here....I'm so darn BUSY I can't sink into a depression...and I'm unemployed, LOL! Now, if I had any debts, I'd be quaking in my boots, but, well, they don't loan money to unemployed people.

[Liamj]

Its not the 'waiting' gets me down (for what exactly?), its the daily demonstration that we collectively are doing sweet f.a. to adapt. Most people really do seem wired so as to just not get it - so many 'happy little lives', so huge a gulf between assumptions and reality.
If waiting means drifting, get a mate to give you a shove.

I get a real lift out of things i used to take for granted, like public order, civility, running water, cold beer.. i'm savouring them all.

[dhfenton]

The only time I sink into depression is when I read posts like this one. You sound like a kid waiting for Christmas: when is Santa (Peak Oil) going to come, I can't wait!!! I've said it before, and I'll say it again: Peak Oil is not about revolution; it is about change over time. The "collapse of civilization" the doomers are constantly referring to most likely won't happen.

The danger of peak oil is war, unrelenting global war for oil. Most likely what will happen is the government of some nuclear power (probably the US) will blame the oil shortage on some smaller oil producing regime. They will ultimately attack that oil producing regime, thus causing a reaction by another nuclear power (China, India, Pakistan, Russia perhaps) to secure their oil supply. The toll in human lives of these wars will be immense, and the suffering unbearable. Civilization will not collapse, it will be rigidly organized in an effort to preserve the nation-state. Human lives will be sacrificed for the welfare of the state. This all is preventable if an informed populace demands better. Given the reaction to 9/11 in this country, I'm not holding my breath for a prudent solution. I fear for that my children and grandchildren will be sucked into these wars and consumed like a commodity such as oil. Hiding in a cabin in the hills will do you no good, the state will find you, and they will take you at will. This is the future you guys can't wait for? Are you all insane?