[CaptainJackSparrow]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')b]French TV boss admits censoring riot coverage by Claire Cozens in Amsterdam Thurs Nov 10, 2005:
One of France's leading TV news executives has admitted censoring his coverage of the riots in the country for fear of encouraging support for far-right politicians. "Politics in France is heading to the right and I don't want rightwing politicians back in second, or even first place because we showed burning cars on television," Mr Dassier told an audience of broadcasters at the News Xchange conference in Amsterdam today.
...he admitted his decision was partly motivated by a desire to avoid encouraging the resurgence of extreme rightwing views in France.

[Russian_Cowboy]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Leaf', 'T')his is why I quit watching CNN, FOX, ABC News long ago. Thank God for the interenet were many alternative news sorces are. And I think many people are going this way also by the looks of Big name papers and Media's cutting jobs.

[americandream]

Murdoch's wife is an Asian...he's gonna be crying if the neo nazis get a hold in Europe.

[Bellopheron]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')b]The Fire Seen Around the World


[...]

Commentary, Raj Jayadev,

New America Media, Nov 11, 2005

Some young people have already begun to talk of rioting after seeing France. But the only riots most of us in San Jose have seen have been at the end of the city's Cinco de Mayo parade, when youths have their own "cat and mouse" game with the cops. Nonetheless, the energy that arises at that annual event is contagious and powerful, and seems to mask a political energy -- it's the one day of the year that everyone gets together to get back at the police. Young people get tear-gassed and arrested, but every year they keep coming back. And every year there is a feeling on the street that if one more thing happens, like this one car getting tipped, or a cop hitting just one more person, this place might go off.

[Bellopheron]

Arrests, riot mar Richmond celebration

By Karl Fischer and Bruce Gerstman

CONTRA COSTA TIMES

RICHMOND - Cinco de Mayo celebrations got out of hand Thursday as more than 160 police from several local agencies were called in to disperse a crowd of up to 700 people after a riot erupted shortly after 8 p.m.

http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/local/


Quote:
RICHMOND
Cinco de Mayo crowd gets unruly

Cecilia Vega, Wyatt Buchanan

Friday, May 6, 2005

A crowd of nearly 1,000 people gathered along a street in Richmond on Thursday night for an informal celebration of Cinco de Mayo, and when police showed up to disperse the revelers, the scene turned violent.

Bottles and rocks were thrown by the crowd at police officers, and one officer was injured when he was hit in the head with a full beer can, said Lt. Joe Silva of the Richmond Police Department. That officer was taken to an area hospital for treatment.


[...]

Some vandalism had occurred in the area, but not on a large scale, Silva said. Seven cars were damaged at Jim's Auto Sales on 23rd Street. Past Cinco de Mayo gatherings in Richmond have been larger than Thursday's, he said, though the disturbance this year was greater than in past years.

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f ... CL3NG1.DTL



Local TV new said 12 cars were destroyed by Mexicans using the Police barricades!

They also destroyed a print shop and looted other stores...


Column: Cinco de Mayo shows crime is not top priority
From the Hip
By Mark Hansel
Published: Thursday, May 5, 2005
Article Tools: Page 1 of 2



It's nice to know the Cincinnati Police Department is pulling out all the stops to keep the community safe from those dangerous University of Cincinnati students on Cinco de Mayo.

A little bit of reciprocity would be even nicer.

The community surrounding the main campus has become a very dangerous place for students and teachers alike. Yet the most visible effort by police to do something about it comes during a one-day celebration aimed at people who are not the real cause of the problem.

The reasons for the Cinco de Mayo "riots" that brought about this crackdown are the same reasons that police in Cincinnati have become ineffective. The local cops are out of touch with the community, so they fail to plan effectively. Then when a situation escalates they overreact.

The fact that there were going to be Cinco de Mayo parties by students in 2002 and 2003 was one of the worst-kept secrets on campus. Yet police seemed caught off-guard by the parties and failed to anticipate potential hot spots, allowing the situation to get out of hand.

A little bit of investigation (or some common sense) would have let police know where the parties were going to be and they could have kept the situation under control.

As a result of poor planning, we now have this massive overkill on May 5, to "keep the peace."

The problem is, police are not doing enough on Diez de Noviembre, or any other day, to protect the UC community from real criminals in the surrounding neighborhoods.

The most recent horror story involves a UC professor who had a gun pointed at him while walking to his car just off campus. The guy with the gun was a lookout for another upstanding member of the community who was breaking out windows and looting cars. This act of community improvement took place in the middle of the afternoon.

UC students have been raped, robbed, mugged, shot and stabbed in the areas around campus and police always seem to be one step behind the problem. On May 5, however they are front and center to keep the dangerous car flippers off the streets.

Continued...

http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:TWpS ... n&ie=UTF-8
ave been

[Bellopheron]

Riots loom over imminent eviction of "campesinos"
from Los Angeles farm collective
by
Ernesto Cienfuegos
La Voz de Aztlan

Los Angeles, Alta California, November 23, 2005 - (ACN) Soon after the "Los Angeles Rebellion of 1992" that resulted in 57 people dead, over 2,700 injured, 10,548 arrested, over 3,600 fires, 1,129 buildings destroyed and an estimated $1.2 billion dollars in damage, then Mayor Tom Bradley met with leaders of the marginalized communities that exploded into riots. The purpose of the L.A. mayor's meetings was to determine the root causes that culminated in the utter devastation of many L.A. neighborhoods.

Though the "spark" that started the riots was the shameful acquittal of three white cops that savagely assaulted Black motorist Rodney King by an all white jury, the primary causes where deeply ingrained racism, hunger, homelessness, drastic unemployment, lack of medical care and general economic exploitation of both the Latino and Black communities. These meetings with Mayor Bradley gave birth to a wonderful idea which was to establish a 14 acre farm collective, on L.A. city owned land, where families could grow their own food and essential medicinal herbs. This would establish a sort of economic self-sufficiency for one of L.A.'s the poorest communities known as South Central Los Angeles.

The farm collective has now been successfully cultivated for 13 years by 347 families that operate the farm collective as a "Mexican Ejido". Each family shares in the cost of operating the collective and vote democratically concerning its management. Most of the farmers are immigrants from Mexico and Central America who have menial jobs during the day but who work on the farm on evenings and weekends. The farm collective is located on the southwest corner of the 41st and Alameda intersection and is divided into smaller plots for use by the 347 families. (See Google Satellite Photograph below ). The farm collective provides essential fruits and vegetables for families that would go hungry if they could not cultivate their own food. The farm collective also provides medicinal herbs for families that have no medical insurance and can not pay for medical care.

This effective project which has provided economic self-sufficiency for marginalized people of color is today threaten by a greedy Jewish Mogul from the super-rich LA. community of Brentwood. The City of Los Angeles, unbeknown to the families that farm the collective, secretly sold the 14 acre parcel, from underneath the families, to a well known land developer by the name of Ralph Horowitz. Horowitz now wants and is demanding through court proceedings that the families that farm the land be evicted by the brutal Los Angeles County Sheriffs. "We have to throw them off," said Horowitz, who runs his own real estate investment company. "They're not going to walk off voluntarily. They have to be thrown off by the sheriffs." he added. These comments are no different than those made by the Jewish Interior Minister Nicolas Sarkozy of France that added fuel to the fire there. This may be a recipe for another major rebellion that may eclipse the one in 1992. The Los Angeles city government and its city council today, as is the Los Angeles School Board, take orders from extremely wealthy Jews that reside in the west side of the city.

The "campesinos" and others who work the land are today camping out on the farm collective in constant vigil against the Los Angeles County Sheriffs who may attempt to forcefully evict them any day now. They are committed to a program of "civil disobedience" and are asking for the help of community groups who are willing to join this struggle for self-determination. If you can make it to 41st and Alameda Streets in LA , bring a blanket, a pillow and and your ideas and join "la resistencia" at the "People's Urban Farm" (Colectiva Campesina). There will be free food and water from a Food Bank across the street.

The situation has made news all the way to Mexico City. Yesterday the daily "La Jornada" published an extensive article on the imminent forced eviction of "los campesinos" that has the potential of exploding into new riots such as those occurring in France. The daily "El Universal" published an article titled "Could riots such as in Paris occur elsewhere?" in which Dr. Ana Maria Salazar writes, "Many of the factors that lead up to the rioting in Europe are present in the growing Mexican communities in the U.S., such as poverty, racism, unemployment, cultural and language discrimination, and a growing frustration that their needs are not being addressed. Unfortunately, the only way society listens to these young desperate youth is when they resort to violence and destruction."





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Related La Voz de Aztlan article:
The French Muslim Rebellion of 2005

http://www.aztlan.net/riots_loom_in_la.htm

[Eli]

In an interview with CNN he says that those riots in France were not riots at all. And he repeatedly refers to the riots as a movement. As if by burning down schools and factorys the rioters were asking for more education and jobs. He also repeatedly calls what happened a "movement". With leaders like these France does not need any enemys.
French leader in race to out stupid Bush and beat him at his own game.

Here is another good article that claims that France is witnessing the collapse of the Social state.
France headed for total collapse? France going down le toilet?

[Wildwell]

A French MP has publicly accused rappers of fuelling the country's recent riots with their songs.

It comes a day after 200 politicians backed his petition calling for legal action against seven rap musicians and bands it alleges have incited racism.

MP Francois Grosdidier told France-Info radio it was no surprise youths "saw red" after listening to violent lyrics.

Rapper Monsieur R, one of those singled out in the petition, rejected the idea, saying rap "is not a call to violence".

French authorities said the situation had returned to normal last week, following three weeks of unrest that affected dozens of towns and cities.

Nationwide, almost 9,000 cars were set ablaze and some 3,000 people were arrested. The French parliament last week approved a three-month state of emergency.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4467068.stm



"What is it, what is it you're waiting for to start the fire? / The years go by, but everything is still the same / Which makes me ask, how much longer can it last?"

French rapper Joey Starr
Joey Starr: Rap lyrics proved prescient

The words are from the 1995 song They Don't Understand, by one of France's best-known rap singers, Joey Starr of the group NTM

Maybe because of his mixed background, he takes an unusually balanced view of the trouble and of how to end it.

"First of all France must learn to say sorry - for history, for the colonies, because there is no equality of opportunity, because we can't get into nightclubs, because there are none of us on television or in the national assembly.

"But the youth must also learn to say thank you. It may be shocking for them - but in France at least people can still demonstrate and speak out," said La Peste.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4440422.stm

[foodnotlawns]

http://www.amconmag.com/2005/2005_12_05/feature.html

National Suicide


Jean Raspail foretold the breakdown three decades ago.


by James P. Pinkerton


We were warned. Three decades ago, Jean Raspail published a novel, The Camp of the Saints, which served as a worst-case-scenario warning about the consequences of unchecked immigration into his native France and, by extension, into all of Europe. Raspail’s book was a big seller in his home country, but his message was not heeded. Now, of course, he is being vindicated.

Today, after 9/11, Madrid, London, and the broad-daylight murder of Theo Van Gogh, Paris is burning.

How could this have been allowed to happen? What led to this influx of lions into countries full of lambs?

In The Camp of the Saints, Raspail provided his answer. Those who welcome large quantities of immigrants, he gibed, were “righteous in their loathing of anything and everything that smacked of present-day Western society, and boundless in their love of whatever might destroy it.” And so he spun his outrageous tale: one million poverty-stricken people ship out of India, bound for Europe. Along the way, other countries refuse to allow this teeming armada even the meagerest docking privileges—and who could blame them? As Raspail describes the scene aboard the immigrant convoy, “Everywhere, rivers of sperm. Streaming over bodies, oozing between breasts, and buttocks, and thighs, and lips, and fingers … a welter of dung and debauch.”

But France is persuaded that these people are a “million Christs,” whose arrival will “signal the dawn of a just, new day.” In other words, Raspail writes, what the French are lacking is a proper sense of national-racial consciousness, “the knowledge that one’s own is best, the triumphant joy at feeling oneself to be part of humanity’s finest.” Instead, he concludes, after having been beaten down by decades of multicultural propaganda, “the white race” has become “nothing more than a million sheep.”

And so this Indian multitude—reduced to 800,000 by rampant onboard disease and violence—is allowed to land in Southern France, whereupon the Ganges Horde immediately commences rape, rack, and ruin. Then other immigrants come pouring in to the West, too: “the swarthy millions roaming the streets of New York and London, or the myriad blacks and Arabs ready to spew from the cellars of Paris.” And so the glory of Europe is extinguished forever.

Many, of course, have simply dismissed Raspail as racist. But two factors elevate his writing and his message.

First, he demonstrates a canniness about human nature and what it takes to motivate people to defend their homeland. “Man never has really loved humanity all of a piece,” he writes. It’s inherent that we like some more than others—and some not at all. Indeed, in the spirit of Edmund Burke, the wisest of political scientists, Raspail invokes the spine-stiffening power of stolidity and continuity that is unique to one’s own place. Describing one Frenchman’s centuries-old house, he lyricizes, “Each object … proclaimed the dignity of those who had lived there—their discretion, their propriety, their reserve, their taste for those solid traditions that one generation can pass on to the next, so long as it still takes pride in itself.” Such objects, and the ideas that connect them and give them value, are the touchstones of patriotism. As another Frenchman, Emile Durkheim, observed, nations survive only if they unite around common emblems of nationhood.

Another who agreed that group solidarity requires a sense of uniqueness was George Orwell. Writing in 1941, when his country was in danger of losing to Germany, Orwell rallied his fellow citizens, reminding them, “When you come back to England from any foreign country, you have immediately the sensation of breathing a different air. Even in the first few minutes dozens of small things conspire to give you this feeling. The beer is bitterer, the coins are heavier, the grass is greener.” This paean is romantic, perhaps even irrational, rhapsodizing, but Orwell had a war to win, and so he offered even more particularist patriotism: “There is something distinctive and recognizable in English civilization. It is a culture as individual as that of Spain. It is somehow bound up with solid breakfasts and gloomy Sundays, smoky towns and winding roads, green fields and red pillar-boxes. … Moreover it is continuous, it stretches into the future and the past, there is something in it that persists, as in a living creature.” After reading that apostrophe, what son or daughter of Albion wouldn’t leap to the defense of their sceptered isle against invaders or despoilers?

With comparable sentiments, Raspail summons up his poetical-historical defense of France. In the novel, an aging professor, clearly a symbol of France itself, muses aloud about long-ago Gauls who defended their homeland. “Had I been with Aetius,” he pronounces, “I think I would have reveled in killing my share of Hun.” Girding himself further as he prepares to take up arms against the looming sea of trouble, the old man reflects about what it might have been like to fight alongside Charles Martel, Godfrey of Bouillon, the Byzantines, and Don Juan of Austria, who defeated the Turks at the naval battle of Lepanto in 1571. In Raspail’s view, the ghosts of the past should speak loudly to the present with their common adjuration: repel the barbarians.

Second, if Raspail was right about what motivates people to defend their homeland, he was equally right about what it takes to de-motivate them. His novel may be a dystopic parable, but he was dead-on in his depiction of the systemic guilt-tripping that has afflicted the West. Only a few years before he published his book, Susan Sontag had wailed, “The white race is the cancer of human history.” Using such suicidal sentiments as grist for his fictional mill, Raspail sets up a confrontation between a conventional Everyman and a group of self-hating multiculturalists. Says Everyman: “There’s not one of you proud of his skin, and all that it stands for.” To which the answer comes, “Not proud, or aware of it either. ... That’s the price we have to pay for the brotherhood of man. We’re happy to pay it.”

Yet just as Raspail was right about the beliefs of many fellow Westerners—our breed is bad, we deserve to be birth-controlled and aborted out of existence—he was also right about the grand strategy of many in the Third World, for whom “the winning of the North,” through immigration-invasion, has been the ultimate goal. So while Raspail did not know the specifics of Vicente Fox’s slow-motion demographic crusade to recapture much of America for Mexico, he apprehended the general truth, decades before Fox first articulated his reconquista.

The irony of France’s situation today —as immigrants and the children of immigrants commit exactly the kind of mayhem that Raspail warned against—is that far more than most peoples, the French have a strong sense of nationhood, from their overall striving for la gloire to their picky campaign to purge non-French words from their vocabulary. And unlike, say, the British, the French have no advanced tradition of civil liberties that prevents a tough approach in the assimilation of foreigners. Yet on the other extreme, unlike, say, the Germans, they have no totalitarian history to live down. So in theory, there’s no reason why the French couldn’t use statist coercion to turn North African Muslims into good and loyal Frenchmen.

But now we know, in reality, that Paris has failed. And why is that?

Most obviously, the French have a lot of people to Gallicize; almost 10 percent of the population are Muslims, not the gentler Hindus of Raspail’s imagining. Moreover, many of these Third Worlders have imbibed the radical ideology of Frantz Fanon, the French West Indian who became a partisan for radical causes, culminating in his 1961 book, Les Damnés de la Terre (The Wretched of the Earth). Fanon’s influence has always been greatest in the Francophone world, and so his hymns to the “cleansing power of violence” have been northstars of Euro-leftist philosophy.

Piled on top of Fanon is the legacy of 1968, which hit France even harder than the United States A critical mass of the French intelligentsia has permanently embraced the worst of ’60s ideology, which holds that all authority is terrorism, that the cure of nationalism is internationalism, and that the West, in particular, is guilty as charged—of all charges. These were the people that Raspail most feared and at whom The Camp of the Saints was most targeted.

In the decades since, the premiers of Paris cultivated an image of hard-nosed realpolitik, in which the coolly calculating descendants of Descartes would use facts and logic to resolve the Ethnic Question. And so in 2004, the government imposed a ban on headscarves—worn mostly, of course, by Muslim women—in state schools and in other public institutions. The new law was intended to accelerate the French-ification of the non-native population, and it might have worked, if it had come 10 or 20 years earlier. Instead, mostly unemployed Muslim youths, with no citizenship in their home country, and no loyalty to their new country, have staged their own Lord of the Flies along the Seine. No wonder the French are so cynical about everything, especially their government; they have paid their taxes, suffered through the political speeches, and now they discover that l’etat has failed in its most elemental Hobbesian function, which is the maintenance of order in the streets.

But even before the recent riots, the aging Raspail—he was born in 1925—was bluntly pessimistic about France’s fate. Last year he published a piece in Le Figaro, declaring

[T]hose of French stock—bludgeoned by the throbbing tom-tom of human rights, of ‘the welcome to the outsider,’ of the ‘sharing’ dear to our bishops etc., framed by a whole repressive arsenal of laws known as ‘anti-racist,’ conditioned from early childhood with cultural and behavioral ‘crossbreeding,’ with the requirements of ‘plural France’ and with all the by-products of old Christian charity—will no longer have any alternative but to degrade their own children, or merge, without offspring, into new-mould French ‘citizen’ of 2050.

Because I am convinced that the fate of France is sealed, because ‘My house is their house’ (Mitterand), inside ‘Europe whose roots are as much Muslim as Christian’ (Chirac), because the situation is moving irreversibly towards the final swing in 2050 which will see French stock amounting to only half the population of the country, the remainder comprising Africans, Moors and Asians of all sorts from the inexhaustible reserve of the Third World, predominantly Islamic, understood to be fundamentalist Jihadists, this dance is only the beginning. … France is not the only concern. All of Europe marches to its death.

Of course, it might not be only Europe. America faces threats, too. And just on Monday came news that Australian authorities had arrested 17 men allegedly involved in a terror-bombing conspiracy. One of these “Australians” is Abu Bakr, a “spiritual leader” born in Algeria, who until the arrests was best known for extolling Osama bin Laden as a “great man.”

This should serve as a reminder to us all: while a few in the West have been sounding the alarm against foreign invasion for many years now, many in the East have been sounding a clarion call of their own—that they’re coming to conquer us.
_____________________________________________________

James P. Pinkerton is a columnist for Newsday and a fellow at the New America Foundation in Washington, D.C. He served in the White House under Presidents Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush.

[seldom_seen]

Good article.

Makes you wonder if western civilization is even willing and/or able to make a stand, to defend itself? Or if we sill succumb to the "systemic guilt-tripping that has afflicted the West" and just go quietly in to the night.

[CaptainJackSparrow]

Lou Dobbs Video: Broken Borders and Jim Gilchrist

http://www.youtube.com/watch.php?v=DG2TLh_5w5E

[gary_malcolm]

racists = whiners.

get over it and have some tacos, chicas.

[Chocky]

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2005/12/13/1134236063919.html?from=top5

The article doesn't really say it but the people doing the rioting are predominantly Lebanese Australians. This was as a response to a near-riot on Sunday by Caucasian Australians protesting about violence and intimidation perpetrated by Lebanese in their suburbs over the past few years.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')HE rioters had moved on to Lakemba and their rampaging was confined to the late news for John Castles until he got up from the couch to take in the view from his Cronulla balcony.

What he saw petrified him. "All of them were coming down the Kingsway."

Dozens of vehicles clogged the street. Men stood on parked cars, shouting, bashing windows with baseball bats. "It was out of control," Mr Castles said. "They were going on a rampage."

Three men jumped on his car's roof and smashed windows with an iron bar. "They were saying, 'We'll be back Sunday. Come out and fight us'," he said.

A second wave of unrest following Sunday's race rioting began on Monday afternoon at Maroubra Beach. Police seized baseball bats, golf clubs, steel poles, machetes and axe handles, and crates of rocks and Molotov cocktails that had been placed on rooftops. Five local men were arrested and released.

A few hours later, more than 200 of their opponents gathered at a mosque in Lakemba. Some were preparing to head to Maroubra. Others said they were defending the mosque.

Police brought that situation under control after a few hours, but at 10pm a convoy of dozens of cars, their occupants apparently intent on retribution for the weekend's violence against people of Middle Eastern appearance, arrived in Sutherland Shire.

They travelled via Hurstville, rather than originating from that suburb, as reports indicated on Monday night. At Caringbah, some attacked a couple dining at a pizzeria. The woman suffered head injuries. Her husband tried to rescue her but was assaulted.

A man who had just returned from a North Coast fishing trip was set upon by up to 30 men on Kingsway. "There were bats, rods, bars, fists," he said.

He suffered a fractured arm and bruises to his face and legs but was not interested in revenge. "I just want it to stop." Two more men were attacked, one as he put out his garbage bins.

The cars turned into Elouera Road. Michael Head and his sister Suzanne were finishing a birthday dinner with a friend soon after 11pm when vehicles pulled up outside their unit block.

More than a dozen men leapt out of a van and jumped on their cars, smashing the windows with baseball bats. Through a megaphone, they challenged residents to come out and face them. Those inside turned off the lights and hid behind the blinds. None had been involved in Sunday's violence, they said.

"I was shocked. I was standing there thinking this is not happening," Mr Head said. "There were fireworks going off, which we thought were god knows what," Ms Head said. "Where are the Aussies with their flags at 10pm on Monday? Probably at home nursing a hangover."

The convoy moved on to the Elouera Road shops. There the front windows of the newsagency were smashed, shattering glass across the floor.

Windows were also broken at the dry-cleaning business. Ann Harvey, the manager, lives around the corner. She heard glass smashing and gunshots. She took a call from her 80-year-old neighbour, who was petrified.

Another resident, Adrian, 26, said he was outside a friend's house when a car stopped next to him. A man jumped out and took a swing at him with a baseball bat, but missed. "Everyone is just waiting for the drive by [shooting]," his friend Jade said.

Joel Austin, 28, heard shouting, screams and burnouts in his street in Miranda. "We just grabbed anything, baseball bats and kitchen knifes, and went out," he said. A first group of marauders left without damage. A second arrived when Mr Austin was standing on the Boulevarde.

"As soon as they saw me they said, 'Die, you Aussie dog. We're going to kill you'," he said. The young men, bearing baseball bats with spikes and 60 centimetre machete's chased Mr Austin off the street. He waited in his backyard protected by two dogs and the weapons he had gathered.

"There would have been at least 30 guys came sprinting at me, just ready to rip me apart. I've never been so scared. I was just waiting, thinking this is it. If they weren't going to kill me, they were going to give me an absolute flogging."

[Raxozanne]

What made me laugh was when they zoomed up on the beach and someone had written in big letters:

100%
PURE OZZIE

(or something along those lines)

In reality the 100% pure ozzies (aboriginies) nearly got wiped out a century ago in a genocidal frenzy and replaced by europeans who now believe themselves to be the 100% pure ozzies.

So typical.

[Chocky]

I see what you're getting at but it was largely Europeans that created the nation of Australia as we know it today. So their descendants have more of a claim of being a 'pure ozzie' than anyone else. Aboriginals on the other hand lived in one of several hundred Aboriginal nations, until they were disrupted and decimated by white settlers.

Note also that even though almost all the Lebanese involved are, on paper, Australians, it is common for them to refer non-Lebanese, particularly white Australians, as 'Aussies'. So they obviously see themselves as quite seperate.

[Raxozanne]

You can paint the picture anyway you like.
As far as Im concerned there is only one people who have the right to call themselves 100% pure ozzie: the people whose ancestors got to Australia first, regardless of what society was like at the time.

[Gorm]

Its up to every nation/people to define it self. The Israelis think there is no palestin people, the turks dont think there is kurds and you dont think there is Ozzies.

The aborigines dont call themself ozzies, and maby 300 yrs ago there were no ozzies. But today there is, and it is themselfs hwho defines who they are.

Not you, not me.

[Raxozanne]

Ok Ok if ozzie is used as a label for european immigrant decendants in Australia so be it. I guess they can call themselves that. What bugs me is they use it in a way that suggests that they are the bona fide people of Australia and not these new 'immigrants' who they think should get off their turf because in reality they just usurped it from the original inhabitants 100 years earlier when they immigrated into the country.

Maybe the lebanese can call themselves 100% pure ozzie lebs or something.

[BorneoRagnarok]

Race riots ?? Or beginning of Mad Max 1 in Australia.
Wow, so fun. Use baseball bats to crack skulls until Mad Max 3 Beyond Astrodome where survivors have no free time or energy to fight.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Chocky', '
')At Caringbah, some attacked a couple dining at a pizzeria. The woman suffered head injuries. Her husband tried to rescue her but was assaulted.

[Cynus]

Whoa, racial violence in Australia. I can't believe it since all of the rest of human history has consisted in races living side by side peacefully Let's see, US--check, UK--check, France--check, rest of Europe--check. Canada, looks like you're the only "multi-cultural" country left without racial violence.