[Jack]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Richard', 'H')ow does this relate to peak oil?

[MacG]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jack', 'T')his is, again in my opinion, the problem facing those who advocate shared sacrifice and the promotion of community. We do not practice these things today, as the posting clearly shows. Why would anyone assume that we will do so tomorrow?

[Aaron]

Nice little mini-riot.

Sort of a Para-Reaping workshop for the future.



Note to self... visit Toledo after collapse to recruit potential Reapers.

[Tanada]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('BabyPeanut', 'h')ttp://www.post-gazette.com/pg/05289/589462.stm

[BabyPeanut]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Richard', 'H')ow does this relate to peak oil?

[Yavicleus]

Oddly enough, I saw this in the news right after I got back from a gun show, having just bought two new rifles, and my immediate thought was, "Yup...that's EXACTLY why I just bought two more rifles."

America, where the police can't protect you, and anarchy is only a riot away.

[rogerhb]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Yavicleus', 'A')merica, where the police can't protect you, and anarchy is only a riot away.

[Roy]

While I didn't read the story, I did see coverage on CNN this morning. What did they show?

African-Americans looting a convenience store....

So this is how they protest a Nazi demonstration?

I think the riots and looting we see in these situations has little to do with politics. Its about percieved social injustice and those who feel slighted need only an excuse to start looting and "sticking it to the man".

I'm with Yavicleus.... Keep your head down, eyes and ears open, and your guns loaded. The authorities cannot protect you. They can only pick up the pieces in the aftermath. Better to have a gun and not need it than to need it and not have it.

Sad that our country has been reduced to this. This is one reason I'm leaving Louisiana for a more racially homogeneous area, western North Carolina (end of next month). Sick of the undercurrent of racial tension here, and believing that riots like the one Toledo are just a hair's breadth from breaking out everywhere there are significant "disadvantaged" groups. Like here, where Caucasians make up less than half the population.

[killJOY]

Imagine, my birthplace going nuts.

Toledo is one of those cities that always make negative headlines.

Also the site of the Repug "coingate" scandal.

It's a template cut from Kunstler's "nowhere."

In other words, just like anyplace else.

I don't see race as having much to do with it.


Well, human race, yes.

[Yavicleus]

The really sad thing about this riot is that the Neo-NAZI's fully accomplished their mission.

Their mission was (and nearly always is) to cause a race riot. They show up, and try to provoke violence, because they know that this violence will show up on TV.

Case in point, the NAZIs show up saying, "look at all this black crime!" in their protest, and then a bunch of mostly black people riot, and this riot gets on TV,a nd now the NAZIs can go home, point to their TV's, and say, "see, we told you about all this evil black crime! WE TOLD YOU SO! JOIN US!"

So by rioting, in their own friggin neighborhood, the black residents of Toledo have handed the NAZIs a victory. Sad, really freaking sad.

[Tanada]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Yavicleus', 'T')he really sad thing about this riot is that the Neo-NAZI's fully accomplished their mission. Their mission was (and nearly always is) to cause a race riot. They show up, and try to provoke violence, because they know that this violence will show up on TV.

Case in point, the NAZIs show up saying, "look at all this black crime!" in their protest, and then a bunch of mostly black people riot, and this riot gets on TV,a nd now the NAZIs can go home, point to their TV's, and say, "see, we told you about all this evil black crime! WE TOLD YOU SO! JOIN US!" So by rioting, in their own friggin neighborhood, the black residents of Toledo have handed the NAZIs a victory. Sad, really freaking sad.

[Specop_007]

While I surely dont support the Nazis or KKK in any way, and think their an eyesore on the idea of being a unified nation, I do fully support their right to peaceably gather and hold demonstrations.

[NEOPO]

and thats probably one of the few things we agree on Spe.

Throwing a rock at someone trying to freely speak is throwing a rock at your own freedom of speech.

[EnemyCombatant]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Specop_007', 'W')hile I surely dont support the Nazis or KKK in any way, and think their an eyesore on the idea of being a unified nation.

[Specop_007]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('EnemyCombatant', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Specop_007', 'W')hile I surely dont support the Nazis or KKK in any way, and think their an eyesore on the idea of being a unified nation.

[killJOY]

Fuck unity.

I wish someone had shot the cops.

[Eli]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('killJOY', 'F')uck unity.

I wish someone had shot the cops.

[Yavicleus]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('NEOPO', 'a')nd thats probably one of the few things we agree on Spe.

Throwing a rock at someone trying to freely speak is throwing a rock at your own freedom of speech.

[Eli]

Yeah

NAZIs have a really outdated ideology. Let em talk all they want, going around carrying pictures of Hitler and holding up swastikas is not going to win a lot of new converts.

Actually they may do some good, if you asked the rioters or the all the High school students in Toledo more than half of them would have no clue who the hell Hitler was.

The last thing you want is crazy groups only allowed to gather in secret. That only helps their cause.

[killJOY]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Eli', 'A')nd as far as the law goes if a cop was shot the cops would have been justified in busting out the m-16s. The rioters would have been on the loosing end of that battle.