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What Will $4 Gas price Mean To You?

Postby PenultimateManStanding » Sat 03 Sep 2005, 05:35:30

I drive a 2003 Hyundai Accent which gets about 30mpg on the freeway. I use about 40 gallons per month. So another dollar per gallon will cost me 40 bucks, which isn't going to cause too much strain to my budget. For some folks, though, it will be a hardship. I read today that some analysts are saying that we will definately see $4 gas fairly soon. Is there anyone here who could not make ends meet with that price?
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Re: What Will $4 Gas Mean To You?

Postby The_Toecutter » Sat 03 Sep 2005, 07:41:49

It means I will bike again, carrying a loaded gun, and if anyone knocks me off my bike with their car, nearly kills me, and tries to run away, I'll blow their fucking tires out, rush up to their vehicle, beat the fuck out of their car, pull them out, and kick the living shit out of them.

That is the reason I haven't been biking to my campus 10 miles away. The drivers don't watch where they're going, and get pissed off when someone rides a bike and slows them down a few seconds. Then when they nearly kill you, they pull a hit and run.

I wish I could have got my fucking electric car project running, but oh well. If I won't have it post peak, I just won't have it. Nothing I could do about it given my family's financial situation. I may still get it built, it just might be a long while. I hope the parts I intend to use will still continue to get made.
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Re: What Will $4 Gas Mean To You?

Postby MD » Sat 03 Sep 2005, 08:10:18

700 miles per week at 26 mpg or about 27 gallons. This January when I set my budgets for the year there will have to be adjustments.
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Re: What Will $4 Gas Mean To You?

Postby I_Like_Plants » Sat 03 Sep 2005, 10:24:00

Hmm, means there may be a few more crabby drivers, more bikers and more new bikers to avoid (they swarve and do unpredicable things) and help out with advice and give a friendly smile. It means better deals on rental cars probably, when I need one, although the gas will cost a bit more. It will mean I'll feel even smarter than I already feel when I sold my SUV back to the dealer just about the time the "employee discount" stuff came in, I took a bit of a bath selling it, but getting rid of it was the biggest single step I could make for my finances and Mother Earth. I honestly expected gas prices to come down, things to "normalize" somewhat, instead, things have taken quite a downturn and I'm feeling pretty smart these days!
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Re: What Will $4 Gas Mean To You?

Postby evilmonkeyspanker » Sat 03 Sep 2005, 10:31:52

18 MPG @ 840 miles per week * $4.00 == ~ $187.00

I make around $300.00 per week


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Re: What Will $4 Gas Mean To You?

Postby CarlinsDarlin » Sat 03 Sep 2005, 10:35:35

It means an extra $50 or so a month out of our budget - just in gas costs. But don't forget, that also means the price of other things are likely to increase as well, as extra transportation costs get factored into the prices.

We're some of the folks whose budgets are tight now. It means we'll drive even less than we do now, though honestly there's only so much we can cut out right now. Most weeks, the only time the vehicle is used is to get my husband back and forth to work Monday through Friday. Errands are run before or after work. Rarely are trips made to town on weekends.

What it means for us is that we'll start cutting out luxuries. We've already cut many. The cell phone was cancelled in May. We stopped trash pickup in June (we buy things with less packaging, recycle, compost, and burn). We sold our car (on which we were paying a $335/mo car payment) and bought another with a cheaper payment.

In short, we've already cut back a lot. Gas going over $4 a gallon will mean we'll have to cut back considerably more. I just hope we can manage it.
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Re: What Will $4 Gas Mean To You?

Postby MD » Sat 03 Sep 2005, 10:41:24

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('auctionmonster', '1')8 MPG @ 840 miles per week * $4.00 == ~ $187.00

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Oh my, that's what I call "unsustainable". Have you figured out where you will have your sleeping cot at work? You can't mange those transportation costs at your income level. Even with a very generous $.30 per mile(it's closer to $.45 for a new car) , you are looking at $252 per week transport cost.
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Re: What Will $4 Gas Mean To You?

Postby Bedevere » Sat 03 Sep 2005, 10:54:00

We pay around $1.25/L which is just about $4/gallon. I have seen no apparent change to the amount of driving or bicycle traffic, everyone just seems to suck it up and keep commuting. It will probably take some time of sustained high prices before commuter traffic drops as people actually start carpooling and finding jobs closer to home.
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Re: What Will $4 Gas Mean To You?

Postby Ercole » Sat 03 Sep 2005, 11:36:32

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('auctionmonster', '1')8 MPG @ 840 miles per week * $4.00 == ~ $187.00

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Means the recession will start, people will quit their jobs (300-187=unsustainable) or spend more of their income in gas than in anything else, that will slow down everything, and... You know the end(s) of the story...

Oh! To me ?! Nothing... I go to work by tube, go to bars by tube or buses, only use my car to get out of the city once in a while. My heating is electric - nuclear would say some... - so is my kettle, I only use natural gas to cook my pasta à la bolognaise or my gratin dauphinois (with some reblochon cheese in it, supreme !) but that's not the season, now time's for fruits and crude vegetables, salads...

It will be hard to find plastic bags at the supermarket too, but I have my Provençal handmade ones... Everything will cost some more, from the tomatoes from marocco to the tinned tomatoes from China, except maybe the local production (Europe).

I'll buy a bike too, especially if there are less cars and only-biking streets as there are in Amsterdam - bikers vote too...

Actually, we're gonna step back to the past, when cars were rare - you could hear them coming from far ! - and awaited by all the kids of the town, when you lived close to your workplace - or fields - when you used trains to travel, when you can still see in town horses, donkeys and cattle - would an electric car cost more than a pair of donkeys ? Really no idea...

Of course, this may happen ONCE we got over the crisis...
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Re: What Will $4 Gas Mean To You?

Postby MD » Sat 03 Sep 2005, 11:42:35

Those contained within the French nuclear zone have much reason for complacency. 2010 could see EU France as the new world superpower by default
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Re: What Will $4 Gas Mean To You?

Postby Ercole » Sat 03 Sep 2005, 11:59:59

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MD', 'T')hose contained within the French nuclear zone have much reason for complacency. 2010 could see EU France as the new world superpower by default


Our nuclear plants won't produce the energy needed for 10 million cars, but amid the super-genious who closed and never built new ones (UK, Germany, Sweden...) France will shine !!! :lol:

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Re: What Will $4 Gas Mean To You?

Postby Specop_007 » Sat 03 Sep 2005, 12:04:26

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('The_Toecutter', 'I')t means I will bike again, carrying a loaded gun, and if anyone knocks me off my bike with their car, nearly kills me, and tries to run away, I'll blow their fucking tires out, rush up to their vehicle, beat the fuck out of their car, pull them out, and kick the living shit out of them.

That is the reason I haven't been biking to my campus 10 miles away. The drivers don't watch where they're going, and get pissed off when someone rides a bike and slows them down a few seconds. Then when they nearly kill you, they pull a hit and run.

I wish I could have got my fucking electric car project running, but oh well. If I won't have it post peak, I just won't have it. Nothing I could do about it given my family's financial situation. I may still get it built, it just might be a long while. I hope the parts I intend to use will still continue to get made.


Bit of pent up hostility there Toecutter? :P

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Re: What Will $4 Gas Mean To You?

Postby Specop_007 » Sat 03 Sep 2005, 12:14:20

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('auctionmonster', '1')8 MPG @ 840 miles per week * $4.00 == ~ $187.00

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40 MPG @ 600 miles per week * $4 = $60 per week.

Spec makes good money.

No worries.

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Re: What Will $4 Gas Mean To You?

Postby PenultimateManStanding » Sat 03 Sep 2005, 13:35:07

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ercole', '
')Oh my God, I didn't realize I was living in the next superpowa to emerge ! Gosh ! I saddle the donkey and go to the village drink to that!
The Ghost of Napoleon is stirring! Next thing you know, French speakers everywhere going to get the hegemonistic attitude. :?
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Re: What Will $4 Gas Mean To You?

Postby Ercole » Sat 03 Sep 2005, 13:40:00

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ercole', '
')Oh my God, I didn't realize I was living in the next superpowa to emerge ! Gosh ! I saddle the donkey and go to the village drink to that!
The Ghost of Napoleon is stirring! Next thing you know, French speakers everywhere going to get the hegemonistic attitude. :?


I hope we'll gain back Louisiana... :P

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Re: What Will $4 Gas Mean To You?

Postby Ludi » Sat 03 Sep 2005, 13:42:22

$4 a gallon gas won't mean much to me personally, but I expect it will make materials and supplies and shipping for my business more expensive. Guess I'll have to pass those costs on to the consumer....
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Re: What Will $4 Gas Mean To You?

Postby evilmonkeyspanker » Sat 03 Sep 2005, 16:55:36

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MD', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('auctionmonster', '1')8 MPG @ 840 miles per week * $4.00 == ~ $187.00

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Oh my, that's what I call "unsustainable". Have you figured out where you will have your sleeping cot at work? You can't mange those transportation costs at your income level. Even with a very generous $.30 per mile(it's closer to $.45 for a new car) , you are looking at $252 per week transport cost.



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Re: What Will $4 Gas Mean To You?

Postby I_Like_Plants » Sun 04 Sep 2005, 03:59:39

I know a guy whose car "died" recently, he's taking a combination of bus and light rail to work, he doesn't have to travel that far, I'm trying to convince him to get a bike. He says even if he gets a car again he can't afford the gas for it, and I believe him, he's not making a lot. $10 an hour maybe.

Life for a lot of the working class in the US is miserable because of car costs Car Costs CAR COSTS!! Listen to them talk or talk with them and it's always the subject. Many can live with a lot more breathing room if they can get away with biking it, but first the image of a bike only person being a loser has to change.
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Re: What Will $4 Gas Mean To You?

Postby Macsporan » Sun 04 Sep 2005, 04:11:19

Here in God's Own Country (He likes deserts you know) the cost of satisfaction at my own local Petroleum Emporium has jumped from 110 to 120 cents/litre in less than a week.

I would not be surprised if more was on the way.

Fear not, dear Trans-Pacific friends, you do not suffer alone.

Perhaps in future we'll be able to cross the briny on fast clipper-ships and eat each others grandmothers.

It's something to hope for. :)
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Re: What Will $4 Gas Mean To You?

Postby tpm » Sun 04 Sep 2005, 10:26:19

On Friday, fella travelled 50 miles and bought a new vehicle off dealership lot.

New vehicle came with four gallons in the tank. Buyer had no money, didn't think he could get home.

Rather than spot the guy a couple more gallons, the dealership drove him home, 100 mile roundtrip.

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