[The_Virginian]

global cooling and warming in thpas has been a completely normal event.

Think "Vineland" and "European golden mean" as well as "Ice age", and the "little Ice age".

Now that we got that my chest, I still don't see the naked optimisim of exploring in the Artic.

We have no ide if this pattern will hold, or if the poles will shift, or if it will suddenly switch to an "ice age" due to Ocean Currants etc. etc.

We also have no idea how much oil exists in Antartica or Polar Regions, but I'd bet between the two, we have some good finds.

The real question is: will we even make that far as an industrialized entity?

[savethehumans]

Iron Fist: it sounds like Mr. Strong In Faith has forgotten a quaint little invention of God's called FREE WILL.

We've done this to ourselves. We're doing this to ourselves. God told us to take care of His creation. We blew it. So now Creation is taking care of us. God does love us, but He did give us the choice, and we made it. He will forgive us our actions if we ask. BUT THERE ARE STILL CONSEQUENCES TO OUR ACTIONS!

Ah, well, my poor, deluded brother in Christ probably voted for Bush, too, cuz he's such a moral guy....

[vetteboi88]

If areas of the arctic melt, it would make it far less easier for petro exploration. Most all of the survey and heavy equipment movments are done in the winter when the ground and lakes are frozen. During the summer, they are litterally swamps, so no heavy machinery can move through there.

[Wildwell]

Downing Street said yesterday that a review of climate policy already being undertaken by the Department of the Environment would be "ramped up" to tackle the problem. "Obviously there will have to be new measures," a spokesman said.

Among the actions being considered by the government review are:

· A review of wind power and other renewables to see if they can deliver more carbon dioxide savings;

· Large scale investment in the next generation of tidal, wave and solar systems;

· Consideration of whether a new generation of nuclear power stations is needed;

· Tax breaks and subsidies for energy efficient household appliances;

· New building regulations to make houses and businesses more energy efficient;

· Carbon taxes, including rises in fuel duties;

· A reduction in prices of alternative fuels and subsidies for bio-diesel made from oil seed rape.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story ... 99,00.html

[EnviroEngr]

This shall prove to be interesting...

[Hippo]

Please take a look at:

http://www.manicore.com/
(both in English and French language)

A large bundle of essays on Global Warming and energy resource depletion, all written in a clear style and using well-supported facts.
Contains a lot of figures and straightforward calculations that must convince everyone something has to happen very quickly before it is too late.
A real eye-opener indeed.

[Scalar]

It's ironic I was on the TeamSpeak (My nick was Katrina5) room right before Katrina struck, someone mentioned Oil Storm
http://www.fxnetworks.com/shows/origina ... /main.html,
The scnenario in the movie is playing itself out, if it continues, we are certainly heading for some tough time till we turn to the Alternatives like they did in the movie. Truth can be stranger than fiction!

Did anyone hear the interview with Meteorologist Scott Stevens? http://www.kathleenkeating.com/stevens012505.mp3,this another interview he gave. He offered analysis of Hurricane Katrina. He believes there is evidence that suggests weather manipulation technology(that the Russians and we have)(funny thing is I asked in TeamSpeak if there was any chance it was being steered, and someone said big chance!) was used in the creation and path of the storm which was deliberately focused on destroying the refineries and oil facilities in the Louisiana area. He and Fomer NASA Advisor Richard Hoagland, agree that both Ivan and Katrina were engineered and steered by the Russians, With gasoline already approaching $3.00 per gallon in some parts of the Country, and most of the National refinary capacity strung out along the Gulf Coast, it doesn't take an expert to realize that a direct hit by a major hurricane on those fragile refinaries ... if not the destruction of even a few of the hundreds of oil rigs in the Gulf itself ... could shoot gas prices to unprecedented levels at the pump.

But, as serious as these prospects are, there could be even more severe consequences for a direct hit by a major hurricane on the facilities lying at the mouth of the Mississippi River: the literal closing of the waterway -- for an indeterminate period of time -- to the entire Mid-West!" (This interview was on http://www.coasttocoastam.com the night before she hit!) who I believe saw the movie and realized they could profit from crippling our Oil Industry. BTW Port Fourchon took a "Direct Hit" just like in the movie! I have posted this information on wwlt message board and they think I'm a crank, hey I'm not the expert on the subject who is presenting this info. I was think abou the plan by the Pentago for a contingency plan for Martial Law should we have another "911 type attack" what if they come out and tell the public that this was indeed an act of terrorism on a grander scale than 911, and they decide to declare Martial Law in the entire country, I hope to God that doesn't happen. If you have anything to share with the people of New Orleans they have the forum here http://www.wwltv.com/forums/viewforum.p ... 0&start=50

This is what I to say to the Ignoramus on the wwltv board.
If they can produce the perfect effects shouldn't we be able to counter them with the same technology?
[/quote]

An Idiot is one who is not educated, and that would be someone who knows nothining about "Hyper Dimensional Physics"

Actually thats why it was not a direct hit and New Orleans is not completely under water! Perhaps you are not familiar witht the HAARP project?
http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2005/08/323753.shtml

You are playing with DYN-OMITE! http://www.willthomas.net/Convergence/W ... icanes.htm
r Richard C. Hoagland (who was giving intermittent updates on the Katrina aftermath during the show) joined George to take calls from listeners on the topic of the Hurricane. Echoing some of Scott Stevens remarks, he commented that hurricanes could be thought of as the "perfect weapon," wreaking devastation over thousands of miles and leaving no fingerprints or fallout. Hoagland has also posted a blog entry related to Katrina.

Why do so many of you, believe everything is impossible? You have no problem believing in God and Jesus walked on water, yet you question things as trivial as weather manipulation?

[basil_hayden]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Scalar', 't')hey think I'm a crank,

[Specop_007]

Specop thinks it was caused by a big pruple dragon.

Amazed at what people dream up as reality,
Specop_007

[UIUCstudent01]

It seems like for every catastrophe there needs some over-arching villian doesn't it?

Huh.

It is amazing isn't it though.. the coincidence of Port Fourchan and Oil Storm... could it be that Oil Storm did research and figured out that it had alot of refineries and there was a good chance of a hurricane hitting the coast?

Just maybe. Predictions can be made before it happens based on evidence?

[MD]

I have been waiting since yesterday for this topic to show up. I was about to give up and post it myself!

[MD]

Fess up scalar, i can think of at least half a dozen on this board that would sign up to run that post, myself included!

IP check!
IP check!

[Pops]

HaHaHaHoHoHeeHee!

I wrote that I was surprised there wasn’t a thread on the whole thing being a conspiracy days ago!

Face it people, shit happens and if all you can do is blame it on someone else cause you were too busy with your head up your X-Box to notice you might as well assume the position – heck you are already in the position and don’t even know it!

Grow up and take responsibility for yourself for cripes sake!

On the other hand why not take the “Big Bad Man Is After My Animal Cookies” BS somewhere else where it can be appreciated.

Crap!

(PS. IP is new, not blocked, etc)

[Scalar]

I'm not sure what you mean? All I can say is if a 1/3 of what is being said is right, then there will more of these Killers within weeks of each other, and everyone will continue to go, that's just "Global Warming" or Mother Nature, Sorry I don't buy it, I know what kind secret weapons countries like Russia and China posess. If the same had been said about nuclear weopons in the early 50's, they would have been ridiculed as well! I have no problem believing that technology exists to use the weather as weapons. In fact the U.N. passed a treaty in the early 70's that prohibits weather modification by the military, why on earth would you pass a treaty about something that doesn't exist? By the way, Hoagland is only a crackpot to those who think inside the box, for the rest of us, he is right on target, and now Stevens is also thinking outside the box. Face it folks, the Paradigm we live in is going to shift weather we like it or not!

[Pops]

This certainly needs to go to the Open forum, as the Conspiracy Hell forum doesn’t exist.

[MD]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pops', 'T')his certainly needs to go to the Open forum, as the Conspiracy Hell forum doesn’t exist.

[Scalar]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pops', 'T')his certainly needs to go to the Open forum, as the Conspiracy Hell forum doesn’t exist.

[emersonbiggins]

Weather Modification >>> Iodizing clouds.

Russians in their bi-planes over the gulf again?

[Scalar]

Well I got better things to do with my time, I'm being deadly serious, but you guys are joking around, we'll see whose right in the coming weeks!
Over and out.

[Pops]

Thinking outside the (X) Box is exactly my point Scalar.

Shit happens and people either deal with it or they don’t.

Sitting at your monitor and imagining that humans are so all-powerful that we could either ward off hurricanes if we were good or bring them on if we were bad is to imagine that we are gods.

Fact is we aren’t - regardless of the reset button on your game.

(do they still have reset buttons?)