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Any Ideas To Get Rich Off Peoples Indifference????

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Any Ideas To Get Rich Off Peoples Indifference????

Unread postby BILL_THA_PHARMACIZT » Sat 27 Aug 2005, 06:45:39

I'm looking for some good ideas.
people are going to persue whatever they percieve to be in their own interests and thats always changing because everything in life is in constant motion
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Re: Any Ideas To Get Rich Off Peoples Indifference????

Unread postby MD » Sat 27 Aug 2005, 06:51:58

Make long term investments in Mass Transit and Alternative Energy
Stop filling dumpsters, as much as you possibly can, and everything will get better.

Just think it through.
It's not hard to do.
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Re: Any Ideas To Get Rich Off Peoples Indifference????

Unread postby gt1370a » Sat 27 Aug 2005, 11:01:01

No, but there are some ideas on how to protect your wealth from the effects of peak oil, or at least offset some losses.

1. Invest in oil. Might be a little late in the game at this point. I specifically like Guinness Atkinson energy fund (GAGEX) and do NOT like any of the western oil majors since their production seems to be declining and they can't find any new oil. Also looking for a small company with an innovative way to exploit shale oil, or a small company with the potential to find oil like Eden Energy, though the risk is higher with them.
2. Get out of debt in case you lose your job. Bankruptcy will be even tougher after Oct. 17 in the US (new law into effect). At least get rid of credit card debt. If you think your job will be secure and are expecting inflation, then do something else with your money now and let inflation take care of the car loans/home loans, etc.
3. Buy some gold as an inflation hedge. See 1979-1980.
4. Buy a farm. Long-range food distribution is dependent on cheap gas. Localized food production may become important again. At least you can keep from starving if it comes to that. Plus, there are the stories of "Persian Rugs in Pig-Styes" in Germany after WW1. When things get real bad, only the essentials continue to have value, and people will trade worthless cash, gold, antiques, etc. for them. I should add that property values are really high right now and it might not be the best time to buy.
5. Develop an alternative to oil and market it to the masses. Just kidding.
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Re: Any Ideas To Get Rich Off Peoples Indifference????

Unread postby Ancien_Opus » Sat 27 Aug 2005, 11:11:32

Reverse the logic of Wal-Mart. Instead of ssngular megastores that require driving in metropolitan areas start with rail access, look to general purpose stores for gardening, hardware and dry goods. "No refridgeration, A/C or heavy power use, no large scale just in time delivery systems, no buying volume."
A chain of this type that prioritizes a fuel efficient delivery and provides a catalyst for other small scale exchanges will be useful when folks can't travel 50 or more miles for their stuff. Limit the items like ALDI for efficiency and you've got a pretty solid opportunity.
Henry Ford said; "You can have any color you want as long as it's black."

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Re: Any Ideas To Get Rich Off Peoples Indifference????

Unread postby Ming » Sat 27 Aug 2005, 11:26:44

I already see several good ideas listed...
But I think the easiest choice is to buy some CL futures contracts for Dec 2011.
(Leaving enough cash to protect the open positions in case of a short term price decline, this should also be one of the safest choices to cash in from PO...)
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Re: Any Ideas To Get Rich Off Peoples Indifference????

Unread postby jimmydean » Sat 27 Aug 2005, 13:26:07

Sell house, Borrow as much cash as you can, buy as much gold as you can, bury gold, declare bankrupcy before Oct 17.

LOL
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Re: Any Ideas To Get Rich Off Peoples Indifference????

Unread postby MattSavinar » Sat 27 Aug 2005, 15:07:22

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MD', 'M')ake long term investments in Mass Transit and Alternative Energy


Looks like oil companies and weapons makers would be a better bet if one looks to the federal budget (which is controlled by people who also tend to be big time investors.)

Of coures, you better pack some SPF 3000 on your trip to the afterlife but that's another question.

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Re: Any Ideas To Get Rich Off Peoples Indifference????

Unread postby Snowrunner » Sat 27 Aug 2005, 17:43:27

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ancien_Opus', 'R')everse the logic of Wal-Mart. Instead of ssngular megastores that require driving in metropolitan areas start with rail access, look to general purpose stores for gardening, hardware and dry goods. "No refridgeration, A/C or heavy power use, no large scale just in time delivery systems, no buying volume."
A chain of this type that prioritizes a fuel efficient delivery and provides a catalyst for other small scale exchanges will be useful when folks can't travel 50 or more miles for their stuff. Limit the items like ALDI for efficiency and you've got a pretty solid opportunity.
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Ummm... Aren't you contradicting yourself a bit here?

The reason why chains work is because of the elaborate infrastructure that moves the goods to the stores.

The only margin for them really is in being more efficent than the local store (and Walmart will get even bigger when the costs everywhere else go even higher).

If you want to go local then you would have to try to source locally (which will be an issue if you're in a big city) and the idea of a "chain" is pretty much out of the question.
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Re: Any Ideas To Get Rich Off Peoples Indifference????

Unread postby hoplite » Sat 27 Aug 2005, 18:17:55

Don't buy a house- McMansion or otherwise until after 2007, sell same now!
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Re: Any Ideas To Get Rich Off Peoples Indifference????

Unread postby BILL_THA_PHARMACIZT » Sat 27 Aug 2005, 18:25:45

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'D')on't buy a house- McMansion or otherwise until after 2007, sell same now!







rats!!! ... I was really saving up for this mansion I was about to buy next month. I guess i'm going to have to put that on hold until I can get rich.

I will put the $250,000 down payment on some gold instead.
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Re: Any Ideas To Get Rich Off Peoples Indifference????

Unread postby whereagles » Sat 27 Aug 2005, 20:13:10

I'm seriously thinking of cashing out my stocks and buying land.. got some already (inheritance), but need more. Especially since I'm planning on brewing my own biodiesel... lol.
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Re: Any Ideas To Get Rich Off Peoples Indifference????

Unread postby joewp » Sat 27 Aug 2005, 22:24:33

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jimmydean', 'S')ell house, Borrow as much cash as you can, buy as much gold as you can, bury gold, declare bankrupcy before Oct 17.

LOL


I gon't know why you laughed. If I was single, I'd do exactly that! :)
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Re: Any Ideas To Get Rich Off Peoples Indifference????

Unread postby Dukat_Reloaded » Sun 28 Aug 2005, 04:30:30

What is intailled in the new laws coming in on the 17th? I'm very interested in this. I am happy that the USA is going to make indebted people accountable for their debts because it angers me to see people who are living it up on debt and then getting away with it by declearing bankrupt. It will be highly humerous for me to see indebted servitude in the USA, people will then spend more thought on making sure their investments are viable and curb greed. What are the details of the new laws?
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