[eastbay]

So what do you think?

Physical pain as teaching tool?

... or no?

Not for kids. I have never smacked, spanked, 'switched' or hit my kids. Not once, at least not yet. I am of the opinion it is counterproductive based on my life experience dealing with people who were mistreated during their youth.

But I do believe inflicting pain on adults is acceptable and proper in some cases. Pepper spray comes immediately to mind, for example. A knee or a kick driven very hard into a common peroneal nerve can make a grown man cry and beg for mercy thereby stopping future harmful behavior.

I believe pain as punishment for adults can be a valuable tool both punishing past behavior and preventing future criminal behavior. For example, Singapore has its caning, which is an excellent way to punish those who rape, dismember, or otherwise bring terrible, unspeakable horrors upon others.

[Aaron]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I') just wanted to clarify one thing. I am still (unfortunately) very much adicted to violence (hence my job as a prison guard). I just won't use it against kids (cause they are so much smaller and I could really hurt them)

[Tyler_JC]

I don't remember ever being spanked.

But then again I rarely deserved it.

I had a rather sedated childhood. Or so I remember.

Also I went to a Montessori school until 4th grade. Maybe that had an impact on it. Actually, I think it had a MAJOR impact on how I act now. I don't feel like going into my life story over the internet right now but if someone asks me about it in TeamSpeak, I'll be glad to explain.

[Specop_007]

I used to spank them, but the little bastards got wise and hide uner the bed so now I just poke them witht he broomstick instead of beating the snot out of them.




Seriously though, theres times when its needed. Its few and far between that I see a good mannered kid who didnt get at least one spanking. It seems most of the kids I've seen who were raised by alternative parenting techniques (read: "We dont spank") are absolute fucking terrors and probably the worst kids I've ever seen.
Always an exception to the rule of course, but that does seem to be the norm in my experience.

[Hawkcreek]

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[Tyler_JC]

Basically slow children need to be beaten into submission.

Or that's what this thread has concluded.

It has a lot to do with the social environment that the kids grow up in. In more dangerous neighborhoods, children need more discipline.

But spoiled little brats need to be spanked as well.

Hopefully PO will do the spanking for us.

[MonteQuest]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gnm', 'T')he principal was the scary one however, he had an acrylic paddle with holes in it for more effect. And it made a nice whistling sound even. That one would leave your ass stinging for a half hour...

[Specop_007]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MonteQuest', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gnm', 'T')he principal was the scary one however, he had an acrylic paddle with holes in it for more effect. And it made a nice whistling sound even. That one would leave your ass stinging for a half hour...

[jato]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'P')hysical pain as teaching tool?

[Pops]

Yep consistency – as a parent (or in any other position) f you say no, you better be sure it is a hill you are willing to die on – in the figurative sense of course. Otherwise shut up.

Surprising how my grandkids and kids know The Look from one experience of a pop or flick from Pops, or straight-finger tap on the breastbone while Pops is doing his best impression of a drill instructor (which is the worst I’ve been told). My kids all swore they would never spank, till the grandkids were about 3 and out of control.

I had ‘em ([edit] whacks that is) and I haven’t become a mass murderer – that I have any recollection…


Dr. Spock ruined a couple of generations in my opinion.

[PenultimateManStanding]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pops', '
')Dr. Spock ruined a couple of generations in my opinion.

[MD]

Elimininating fear of punishment from our child rearing culture has produced middle school teachers that fear for their lives from out of control children.

[Tyler_JC]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MD', 'E')limininating fear of punishment from our child rearing culture has produced middle school teachers that fear for their lives from out of control children.

[MD]

Holy Knuckle Buster Batman!

[Tyler_JC]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MD', 'H')oly Knuckle Buster Batman!

[k_semler]

Two words: PUSH UP! Standard push ups, but with the palms even with your adams apple instead of your shoulder blades. Make them do 15 of them. Improper push ups are not counted to the total sum. 15 proper push ups will give them more memory, than a spanking. And the good part is, it benifits them physically as well. (No pussy push-ups either! Do it like a man!) God, I hope I never have to teach Gym, or be a father. They would learn to hate push ups, (and probably me too), but they would get stronger.

[The_Virginian]

hmmm, was on a bus last thursday, some rowdy kids were annoying a very tired and upset friend of mine who just got off work...


Whack wahck..

A few well placed slaps and the kids started to behave. then we played "good cop, bad cop" He told them he would throw these children (8-10 y.o.'s) off the bus if they did not behave.

I told them i would TRY to protect them, but this other guy is much bigger than me, and an american...so he says what he means.

Force, the threat of force, and little Psy-ops finnialy did the job.

NO ONE METHOD WORKS IMHO. (i've tried "push ups" etc.)... and Yes old line Jews administer corpral punnishment to each others kids when they deserve it. the only problem is there's not many of the old gaurd left. (though I'm younger, i have done the neccessary on occasion )

[jaakkeli]

This is one of the differences between northern Europe and America that most people don't seem to realize. Here, spanking can get you prison time, and that's pretty drastic in this country (it's extremely tough to get actual prison here, even murderers often sit only a few years). Judging by this thread, Americans really are more stuck in the Middle Ages than most people here could even imagine. (Some parts of the countryside are, here, too, but that's only a small part.)

[ubercynicmeister]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MD', 'E')limininating fear of punishment from our child rearing culture has produced school teachers that fear for their lives from out of control children.

[Daculling]

I don't have children... but if they commited murder I would beat them util they where dead.