[Kez]

The USA can't win, no matter what it does.

- If we do nothing, and just protect our own, we get blamed.

- If we go and try to dispatch them, we get blamed for killing thousands.

- If Saddam or Ude or Use kills thousands, or millions, we get the blame.

- If someone nukes someone else, we'll get blamed for it.

- Slavery in places, bad working conditions, sure the USA is partially to blame, but we get all of the blame.

- If we sit quietly and go along with the majority at the U.N., then things like Rwanda happen, when the USA decided to sit quietly and follow along. Who got the blame for Rwanda? Was it the French or whoever who had colonies there in the first place? Nope, we did. So we follow the U.N. directives, thousands die, we still get the blame.

- If we develop cures for hundreds of worldwide ailments and send millions of dollars and supplies to help cure people, which we do, we get blamed for not doing enough.

- Look at the situation in Niger right now. Stop right now and go do the research. Look at what the world is doing there. When it's all said and done, the USA will be blamed for thousands of deaths there. Sure we should help more, but so should every single country on earth. Instead let's just bash the big bad USA since they are an easy target.

[MrBean]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Kez', 'T')he USA can't win, no matter what it does.

- If we do nothing, and just protect our own, we get blamed.

- If we go and try to dispatch them, we get blamed for killing thousands.

- If Saddam or Ude or Use kills thousands, or millions, we get the blame.

- If someone nukes someone else, we'll get blamed for it.

- Slavery in places, bad working conditions, sure the USA is partially to blame, but we get all of the blame.

- If we sit quietly and go along with the majority at the U.N., then things like Rwanda happen, when the USA decided to sit quietly and follow along. Who got the blame for Rwanda? Was it the French or whoever who had colonies there in the first place? Nope, we did. So we follow the U.N. directives, thousands die, we still get the blame.

- If we develop cures for hundreds of worldwide ailments and send millions of dollars and supplies to help cure people, which we do, we get blamed for not doing enough.

- Look at the situation in Niger right now. Stop right now and go do the research. Look at what the world is doing there. When it's all said and done, the USA will be blamed for thousands of deaths there. Sure we should help more, but so should every single country on earth. Instead let's just bash the big bad USA since they are an easy target.

[Geology_Guy]

The secret of being an American Mr. Bean is that we don't care what other people think of us. We help out the rest of the world as much as we can and then go about our business. We must not be too bad of a place as 40% of Mexicans want to live in the US.

[SD_Scott]

I definately feel sorry for her and all of the mothers losses in this war. I feel it comes down to a few simple issues.

1. The business of America should be business, not war.
2. America's values have been lost or sold.(main problem)
3. The military should have only two uses, break stuff and kill people.

If you are a young person considering joining the forces, it's up to [YOU!] to realize that you may be called to fight an ugly war by a civilian leader that never served in the military. The military is for fighting. Don't join if you don't want to fight.

It should be in the constitution that no American leader can send the military in to do anything other than 100% all out fighting to win, regardless of the cost. Anybody with half a brain would avoid war if that was the case. That way we would have never been in Iraq in the first place. Or Vietnam for that matter. Fighting should be 100% all out, theater wide.

Sorry if it sounds harsh, but a lot of parents are grieving at the lost of their son, when they expected him/her to go to school on the GI bill.

[gary_malcolm]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Geology_Guy', 'T')he secret of being an American Mr. Bean is that we don't care what other people think of us. We help out the rest of the world as much as we can and then go about our business. We must not be too bad of a place as 40% of Mexicans want to live in the US.

[Jdelagado]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gary_malcolm', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jdelagado', '
')
Who do you want leading the world? The spineless french? What a joke!

jdelagado

[MrBean]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Geology_Guy', 'T')he secret of being an American Mr. Bean is that we don't care what other people think of us. We help out the rest of the world as much as we can and then go about our business. We must not be too bad of a place as 40% of Mexicans want to live in the US.

[MrBean]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jdelagado', '
')I know, as long as we insult Americans, it's ok. But, it's not ok to do the same to the Europeans....

[AirlinePilot]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MrBean', 'A')nd I question the veracity of the claim of "helping the rest of world as much as we can". But limits of ability is of course subjective valuation.

I don't doubt that the honesty and good intentions of the mislead part US population that still think US is in Iraq to help Iraqi people. I'm just saying they are mislead in still believing US governement propaganda and corporate media repeating it.

[gary_malcolm]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AirlinePilot', '
') I agree we might be able to do more, but the facts are there for all to see. The US gives far more than any other country when it comes to just about ANY kind of aid. When you look at charitable contributions alone, you will see where those "mislead" are sending their hard earned dollars to help.

[Jdelagado]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MrBean', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jdelagado', '
')I know, as long as we insult Americans, it's ok. But, it's not ok to do the same to the Europeans....

[MrBean]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AirlinePilot', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MrBean', 'A')nd I question the veracity of the claim of "helping the rest of world as much as we can". But limits of ability is of course subjective valuation.

I don't doubt that the honesty and good intentions of the mislead part US population that still think US is in Iraq to help Iraqi people. I'm just saying they are mislead in still believing US governement propaganda and corporate media repeating it.

[Free]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jdelagado', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')hat is why we need an institution which tries to build an international law which is binding for every country with no exception! And whatever you can say bad about the UN, it has achieved more international cooperation in any matter than any other institution in the history of mankind before, and certainly more than pure violence.

And the only rogue state which continues to sabotage every single step of building this global framework is the US of A, plain and simple. That's why the majority of people don't like you, not because they are jealous or whatever.

[CrudeAwakening]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AirlinePilot', '
') I agree we might be able to do more, but the facts are there for all to see. The US gives far more than any other country when it comes to just about ANY kind of aid. When you look at charitable contributions alone, you will see where those "mislead" are sending their hard earned dollars to help.

[Free]

Now it's political

"Cindy Sheehan has served to focus antiwar sentiment in the US, so much so that Iraq is becoming a major political problem for the Republicans - and the Democrats too. President Bush, meanwhile, goes on with his life, and his holiday. - Jim Lobe"


http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/GH20Ak02.html


Iraq at the gates of hell

"The joke in Iraq before the invasion was that Iraqis wanted the gates of hell to be opened so they could get out. Now they are in another kind of hell: every day the violence continues there are countless new scores to be settled, new hatreds born, and a greater likelihood the country will erupt in ferocious civil war. And whether the US stays or goes, it will be blamed. - Ashraf Fahim"


http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/GH20Ak01.html

[AirlinePilot]

Figures lie and liars figure. Per Capita means nothing on the world stage. Bottom line, The United States gives more Aid of almost any kind you can come up with than anyone else on the planet. It's been this way since after World War II. I submit also that as far as charitable contributions go we are at or near the top also. Combined government and charitable contributions far outstrip anybody elses. Yeah, we could do more and I hope we do. How much of your yearly income do you contribute to world causes?

The US is in Iraq, not to build empires or prop up the "petro dollar", they are there to make sure the oil that remains is managed in an intelligent fashion, not pillaged by mindless Hitler like dictators.

[jaws]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AirlinePilot', ' ')The US is in Iraq, not to build empires or prop up the "petro dollar", they are there to make sure the oil that remains is managed in an intelligent fashion, not pillaged by mindless Hitler like dictators.

[MrBean]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AirlinePilot', 'F')igures lie and liars figure. Per Capita means nothing on the world stage. Bottom line, The United States gives more Aid of almost any kind you can come up with than anyone else on the planet. It's been this way since after World War II. I submit also that as far as charitable contributions go we are at or near the top also. Combined government and charitable contributions far outstrip anybody elses. Yeah, we could do more and I hope we do. How much of your yearly income do you contribute to world causes?

[Free]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AirlinePilot', '
')The US is in Iraq, not to build empires or prop up the "petro dollar", they are there to make sure the oil that remains is managed in an intelligent fashion, not pillaged by mindless Hitler like dictators.

[AirlinePilot]

Ok, lets just look at charitable donations from us stingy Americans. This particular link is backed up by just about everything else I could find on the subject.

http://usinfo.state.gov/eur/Archive/200 ... 38980.html

If you divide the current population by what we gave in 2003, you come up with a per capita donation of slightly over 1,700 $. Yeah we are a nasty bunch aren't we? That doesn't even include the government figures.

All we care about is ourselves. Yeah, sure. You all can go on living in your little fairylands of self rightous bullshit and communistic fallacies all you want.

I do my part to help my fellow man, with my money, my time, and my own personal sacrifice. Not just in my own homeland but also abroad. I do it because it's right not because it feels good. What have you done?