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Postby Specop_007 » Mon 01 Aug 2005, 11:14:45

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('0mar', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Specop_007', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('0mar', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Yavicleus', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('EnergySpin', 'B')TW how come the Britts were able to arrest all the terrorists (inspite of shooting that Brazilian) within a week?
What's up with that?


Um...Because they've had decades of anti-terrorist training due to the IRA threat?


It's more likely that British Intelligence knew of the attacks and allowed them to happen. After reading Crossing the Rubicon, I don't doubt this at all.


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Postby 0mar » Mon 01 Aug 2005, 14:23:53

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Specop_007', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('0mar', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Specop_007', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('0mar', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Yavicleus', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('EnergySpin', 'B')TW how come the Britts were able to arrest all the terrorists (inspite of shooting that Brazilian) within a week?
What's up with that?


Um...Because they've had decades of anti-terrorist training due to the IRA threat?


It's more likely that British Intelligence knew of the attacks and allowed them to happen. After reading Crossing the Rubicon, I don't doubt this at all.


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some of it is tinfoil hat shit though.
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Postby PenultimateManStanding » Mon 01 Aug 2005, 14:50:15

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('0mar', '
')some of it is tinfoil hat shit though.
Seems to me that either your tinfoil hat is on too tight and actually Ruppert is right on the mark with all this or else Ruppert screwed up because any tinfoil hat stuff at all will only dicredit the whole argument. Just what news do you consider 'tinfoil' hat? Presumably the expression means just rumors, paranoid speculation, that sort of thing, so where does Ruppert cross the line into nonsense IYO?
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Postby 0mar » Mon 01 Aug 2005, 17:37:37

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('0mar', '
')some of it is tinfoil hat shit though.
Seems to me that either your tinfoil hat is on too tight and actually Ruppert is right on the mark with all this or else Ruppert screwed up because any tinfoil hat stuff at all will only dicredit the whole argument. Just what news do you consider 'tinfoil' hat? Presumably the expression means just rumors, paranoid speculation, that sort of thing, so where does Ruppert cross the line into nonsense IYO?


That stuff about PROMIS and Echelon mainly. It could be true, but it just seems too unreal to grasp.
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Postby lizzybeth » Mon 01 Aug 2005, 18:49:57

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('EnergySpin', 'A')nd may I ask who or what is MS-13?


I don't know much about them, except there has been news in our local Alabama (Birmingham) paper about the fact that they have a presence here.
Pictures of the tatoos and all. This is in a mainly middle/upperclass area that has had an influx of legal/illegal (?) Hispanic people. They mainly live in apartments and do labor, etc. Some people are trying to get the multi-cultural center that helps them closed.
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Postby PenultimateManStanding » Mon 01 Aug 2005, 19:02:04

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('EnergySpin', 'A')nd may I ask who or what is MS-13?

I don't know much about them, except there has been news in our local Alabama (Birmingham) paper about the fact that they have a presence here.
Pictures of the tatoos and all. This is in a mainly middle/upperclass area that has had an influx of legal/illegal (?) Hispanic people. They mainly live in apartments and do labor, etc. Some people are trying to get the multi-cultural center that helps them closed.
google ms-13 and you'll find out they are a Salvadorean gang involved in heavy weapons smuggling. Alledged by some to have Al-Qeada ties.
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Postby EnergySpin » Mon 01 Aug 2005, 19:16:39

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('EnergySpin', 'A')nd may I ask who or what is MS-13?

I don't know much about them, except there has been news in our local Alabama (Birmingham) paper about the fact that they have a presence here.
Pictures of the tatoos and all. This is in a mainly middle/upperclass area that has had an influx of legal/illegal (?) Hispanic people. They mainly live in apartments and do labor, etc. Some people are trying to get the multi-cultural center that helps them closed.
google ms-13 and you'll find out they are a Salvadorean gang involved in heavy weapons smuggling. Alledged by some to have Al-Qeada ties.

Is it something that we poor mid-westerns should know about?
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Postby linlithgowoil » Tue 02 Aug 2005, 06:23:39

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he other fact is that the former USSR has this stuff all over the place and it is not well guarded


I think this is a myth. I've seen no evidence of this at all. There arent just working nuclear bombs sitting around in little abandoned huts waiting to be taken, or guarded by 2 fat old russians drunk on vodka.

A nuclear attack by a group of poorly equipped terrorists is 100% impossible, unless they had assistance from some foreign government, but that would never happen as they'd get found out. the only nuclear attack would be from a state, not a group of bearded muslims.
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Postby Daculling » Tue 02 Aug 2005, 12:37:21

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('EnergySpin', '
')Is it something that we poor mid-westerns should know about?
I'm not leaving the inner lands ... big bad wolves East Coast, West Cost, South , eat poor EnergySpin (my precious :P)


Maybe in the future MS-13 will get your way too... however the government now lists them as terrorists, so maybe not. When you start to hear about people getting thier hands chopped off with machetes you know they have arrived. Just this morning I heard reports on the morning news that MS-13 is threating violence against people who go to the "Take back the streets" block parties tonight. We'll see what happens...
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Postby Carrie » Thu 04 Aug 2005, 16:58:06

With all the rumours about a nuclear attack on the 6th floating around, did anyone else see the release today of the Al Qaeda video as possibly being a trigger tape?

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/08/ ... index.html

That, and gold has been spiking the last couple days. :cry: Even if the nuke attack doesn't materialize, it sounds like they're starting to get more active.
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Postby PenultimateManStanding » Thu 04 Aug 2005, 17:08:25

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Carrie', 'W')ith all the rumours about a nuclear attack on the 6th floating around, did anyone else see the release today of the Al Qaeda video as possibly being a trigger tape?

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/08/ ... index.html

That, and gold has been spiking the last couple days. :cry: Even if the nuke attack doesn't materialize, it sounds like they're starting to get more active.
August 6 is the Hiroshima anniversary so that would explain the date. Any links to why the rumors Al Qaeda will strike that day? Would they strike on a Saturday?
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Postby Carrie » Thu 04 Aug 2005, 17:19:46

The rumours started when this article appeared on WorldNetDaily:
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')ntelligence gathered from captured al-Qaida documents and interrogations of captured operatives has provided the U.S. with some specific information about Osama bin Laden's favored dates for his decade-long plan for an "American Hiroshima" nuclear terrorist attack – and one of those dates arrives this week.

http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.a ... E_ID=45562

It's been causing a stir on the net for the last week or so. Of course, they could just be trying to sell newsletters. :wink: I hope so.

I don't think it would matter if they struck on a Saturday, if they were using a nuke.
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Postby OilsNotWell » Thu 04 Aug 2005, 17:48:44

Great minds think alike, Carrie, ;) ...I do hope that we are wrong...for the love of humanity. Other than an attempt to sell Corsi's book, I hope it's just a psy-ops to discredit internet reporting, as more and more people are turning to it and watching less TV.

But there are a number of other indications, with stories and footprints all over the net...in many other sites, with other reports...

Bush taking that long Aug vacation, just like before 9/11...the Charlotte drill, the noise on Iran, the leaked info regarding a possible nuclear retaliatory strike on Iran, PO coming soon (if not here already) and a looming winter energy problem, the precariously floated economy and the soon to be sinking dollar and petro-dollar (Iranian oil bourse too) the chatter from many different parts of the web, the heating up (reportedly) of Fitzgerald's investigation, the Isarel/AIPAC spy scandal, Sibel Edmonds and political corruption and 9/11 malfeasance, the worsening poll numbers for the admin and the continuing detoriating situation in Iraq, the mid-term elections coming up, so many, many factors aligning to try an keep most distracted and afraid, and to provide justification...The admin might stand to benefit and stay in power and prevent implosion
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Postby Carrie » Thu 04 Aug 2005, 19:32:42

I'm still taking this with a huge grain of salt, mostly because I've been through too many of these false-alarm rumours before. Also because I haven't seen this story mentioned on any other, more credible, sites.

I'll breathe a little easier when this weekend is over, though.
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Postby EnemyCombatant » Fri 05 Aug 2005, 00:28:26

Ask yourself, just where would the terrorists get the nukes from??
Now why didn't I take the blue pill.
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Postby PenultimateManStanding » Fri 05 Aug 2005, 02:16:48

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('EnemyCombatant', 'A')sk yourself, just where would the terrorists get the nukes from??
Black market in the ex-Soviet Union maybe? It isn't the big ICBMs either, just the smaller nuke stuff.
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Postby Carrie » Fri 05 Aug 2005, 02:38:13

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('EnemyCombatant', 'A')sk yourself, just where would the terrorists get the nukes from??


Pakistan would be my guess (where they think Osama is, by the way). There was also some talk about the U.S.S.R. secretly planting nukes around the U.S. during the Cold War. Are you trying to imply it was the Bush administration that gave them the nukes?
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Postby EnemyCombatant » Fri 05 Aug 2005, 14:25:06

Nuclear weapons can only come from a state.
A state has to provide the nukes, the training, and the opportunity. Just like the US and Europe provided Saddam with bio/chem weapon materials.

That's state sponsored terrorism. Something we have been doing for a very long time.

If you follow the rabbit hole, it always leads back to the government.
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Re: American Hiroshima

Postby Carrie » Thu 11 Aug 2005, 03:55:20

Here's something for the conspiracy theorists on the board to chew on. Recently you may have heard on the news about the four star general who got canned because of "sexual misconduct", which apparently was an extra-marital affair with a civilian (supposedly). Now I come across this:
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'O')ther sources however have offered a different explanation for Byrnes' dismissal which ties in with the Bush administration's unpopular plan to attack Iran and the staged nuclear attack in the US which would provide the pretext to do so.

According to reporter Greg Szymanski, anonymous military sources said that Brynes was the leader of a faction that was preparing to instigate a coup against the neo-con hawks in an attempt to prevent further global conflict.

Indications are that, much like popular opinion amongst the general public, half the military oppose the neo-con's agenda and half support it.

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$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '"')Speculation exists that he had potentially discovered the fact that it was gonna go live and that he was trying to put a stop to it or also speculation indicates that he may be part of a military coup designed to prevent the ridiculous idea of doing a nuclear war with Iran, " said Lehrman.

Lehrman said that other sources had told him all army leave had been cancelled from September 7th onwards, opening the possibility for war to be declared within that time frame.

Northcom officials also admitted to Lehrman that CNN had been using its situation room as a studio.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/au ... eneral.htm

No idea how credible this is. I do find it odd that they'd fire a four star general over an affair, but the military does take those things seriously. What are your thoughts on this? I'm not sure what to believe anymore.
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Re: American Hiroshima

Postby Grimnir » Fri 12 Aug 2005, 10:04:34

Drudge sez...

An upcoming New York Times article will reveal that officials are concerned that "anniversary attacks" may be planned for NY, LA, and Chicago around 9/11/05.

http://drudgereport.com/flash6.htm

They're talking about fuel tanker explosions rather than nukes; however, the Charleston exercise is said to involve a nuclear device that is detonated as it is unloaded from a ship. Kinda similar.
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