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THE Nuclear Weapons/War Thread Pt. 2 (merged)

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Re: THE Nuclear Weapons/War Thread Pt. 2 (merged)

Postby theluckycountry » Wed 15 Oct 2025, 22:11:36

Polluted weapons factory begins locking up nuclear waste in glass
15 Oct 2025
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')fter years of delay and political wrangling, DOE’s Hanford site opens vitrification plant.
The landmark move at the U.S. Department of Energy’s (DOE’s) Hanford Site comes nearly 2 decades later than first promised because of technical problems, cost overruns, and missed deadlines. “We’ve still got a ways to go before we’re anywhere near done, but today’s success is worth celebrating—let’s make glass!” :roll:

...The factory, which has already cost more than $10 billion to build, is part of a broader cleanup project expected to take another $200 billion to $350 billion to complete. The goal is to find a permanent solution for 325 million liters of liquid waste left from the manufacturing of plutonium pits for nuclear weapons from World War II until the end of the Cold War era in 1989. Most of the waste is stored in 177 massive carbon steel tanks. Some of the tanks have corroded and leaked waste into the soil not far from the Columbia River, the largest river on the West Coast.

Over the past week, plant operators filled four stainless steel cylinders with waste-impregnated glass, each containing nearly 5500 liters of waste, according to a spokesperson for Bechtel, the private company hired by DOE to build the plant. In the next 40 years :P the facility is supposed to process approximately 90% of the total waste... But that doesn’t cover some of the trickiest waste—a peanut butter–like sludge congealed at the bottoms of the tanks. Work on a separate vitrification plant to deal with that waste was halted in 2012. Only recently has DOE restarted design and engineering work on that facility. If it stays on schedule, it’s expected to begin treating waste in the 2030s, and continue running into the 2070s.
https://www.science.org/content/article ... aste-glass

In other words, for 90% of the waste, probably never. Of course an even greater disaster awaits with the untold thousands of tons of plutonium laced fuel rods from power reactors. Most of which stay on site in cooling ponds, and like in the case of the only "fully" decommissioned and dismantled US reactor, Big Rock Point, the plutonium is left behind, buried in the ground.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'J')uly 3, 2002-- The major component removal (MCR) project at Big Rock Point (BRP) at Charlevoix, Michigan, is now in its third full year of decommissioning operations with the reactor vessel removal scheduled for 2003 as per the contract. ... At the time of closure, it was the oldest operating nuclear power plant in the USA. The BRP site restoration project will be completed by 2005.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'B')ig Rock Point Panel Discussion
Mar 31, 2020 · There needs to be a timely solution to remove the spent nuclear fuel that is currently stored onsite. There were concerns about the spent nuclear fuel eventually being...

It's a joke really. Anyone with a decent chemical lab can take those and manufacture weapons grade plutonium, then it's probably a small matter to make the explosive lenses. I mean they did it in 1944 in a wooden barracks with a few physicists bumbling their way through. Or just dump a load of it in a municipal Dam. Plutonium is the most toxic substance on earth.

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There is no security on site, two wire fences and you're in. I can think of a dozen ways terrorists could exploit this facility, from a D10 dozer set loose to a couple of dozen satchel charges placed among them, and it's right there on the banks of the Great lakes too :shock:

https://www.mlive.com/public-interest/2 ... -risk.html
https://www.neimagazine.com/advanced-re ... -bows-out/
https://www.bing.com/ck/a?!&&p=352bce74 ... IwMDMucGRm
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Re: THE Nuclear Weapons/War Thread Pt. 2 (merged)

Postby theluckycountry » Wed 15 Oct 2025, 22:13:39

Nuclear waste storage along the Great Lakes: How severe is the risk?
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Re: THE Nuclear Weapons/War Thread Pt. 2 (merged)

Postby AdamB » Wed 19 Nov 2025, 23:16:13

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', 'N')uclear waste storage along the Great Lakes: How severe is the risk?

Good question, as no one in your country can even MAKE nuclear waste....let alone be smart enough to figure out what to do with it next. Take some of your smartest folks, send them to the US where they can first go to a good college to prove they are just American average, and then we'll see their grades and decide if they can be sent along to "nuclear finishing school" as it were. Figure....100 smart Australians.....5 of them might make it through and at least be worth conidering.

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Re: THE Nuclear Weapons/War Thread Pt. 2 (merged)

Postby theluckycountry » Thu 20 Nov 2025, 19:07:56

America isn’t prepared for a strike against our nuclear weapons

- THE HILL

If we are to believe the reports of the Pentagon, the U.S. has now deprived Iran of its ability to produce nuclear weapons. This was accomplished, remarkably enough, by a single raid involving a tiny number of U.S. bombers, without the element of surprise and — perhaps most astoundingly of all — without using our own nuclear weapons. There were no civilian casualties.

If the U.S. is ever the victim of a disarming strike, we will not get off so lightly.

Eight months ago, I wrote on the emphatic opinion of Rep. Don Bacon (R-Neb.) of the House Armed Services Committee, and other experts, that the U.S. is now highly vulnerable to a nuclear surprise attack. Bacon, a former Air Force brigadier general, had the actual job of giving the order to retaliate in case of a nuclear attack. Such an attack, if successful, would prevent any U.S. retaliation, leaving our enemies a free hand to use their own nuclear weapons to destroy the U.S.

Although the U.S. possesses thousands of nuclear weapons dispersed all around the world, they are all reliant on a single point of failure: the nuclear command, control and communications system. In order to be effective, the system must guard against two catastrophic possibilities: first, that the U.S. will be disarmed by a nuclear surprise attack, and second, that a false warning — a sensory illusion or a phantom on a computer screen — might start an accidental war.

To avert these dangers, the U.S. relies on a small fleet of command aircraft that have all the equipment required to command U.S. nuclear forces in the event of war. The idea is that the aircraft will take off when they receive a warning of an incoming attack, and transmit the order to retaliate only if and when nuclear weapons actually reach U.S. soil. This operation is called Looking Glass, and the system whereby the aircraft take off and command U.S. forces from the air is known as the “ground alert.”

Unfortunately, technology has completely overtaken this ground alert system. Modern hypersonic and submarine-launched missiles are capable of striking the U.S. in less than the 15 minutes it takes for the command aircraft to take off and escape their bases. This fact alone is sufficient to render the existing system obsolete. Even more concerning, the recent surprise attacks against Russia and Iran (both of which made use of cheap, home-made drones to achieve perfect surprise) raise the possibility of neutralizing the command aircraft by previously unforeseen or unconventional means — and with no warning at all.

As many others have rightly pointed out, the recent pattern of small drones overflying sensitive U.S. military bases suggests it would be entirely possible to use the methods of Israel and Ukraine on a far grander scale against our air forces. But what others have missed is the true extent of the danger posed by such an attack. The command aircraft, the very cornerstones of all U.S. military power, are at risk of sudden destruction.

In other words, it may well be possible to disarm and destroy the U.S. with approximately 20 plastic quadcopters...

https://thehill.com/opinion/national-se ... erability/

China can detect US Seawolf-class submarine with magnetic wake tracking: study
https://www.scmp.com/news/china/science ... king-study

A tech that's not well covered is remote submersible nuclear drones that can sit on station for weeks or months and when activated close on and destroy American ballistic missile submarines. These old subs are easy to track now, they probably have Chinese drones stalking them relentlessly already. The subs are the last line of defense, the doomsday option when all else fails. But like so many older technologies they are outclassed now and vulnerable. Prudence says that when you're up against a Nation with vastly superior technology and numbers the best course of action is to back down.

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Re: THE Nuclear Weapons/War Thread Pt. 2 (merged)

Postby theluckycountry » Thu 20 Nov 2025, 19:19:16

China deploys giant drone Subs off Hainan, dwarf US & EU designs, experts warn
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
')China has secretly deployed colossal uncrewed submarines—measuring up to 42 meters—off Hainan Island, according to new satellite imagery analysis. Known as XXLUUVs, these vessels dwarf all U.S. and European equivalents and signal a major leap in undersea warfare. Defense experts warn the stealthy subs could lay mines, launch torpedoes, deploy drone swarms, stalk U.S. carrier strike groups, and even sabotage underwater cables
https://www.hindustantimes.com/videos/w ... 61076.html


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Re: THE Nuclear Weapons/War Thread Pt. 2 (merged)

Postby AdamB » Thu 20 Nov 2025, 22:07:22

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', '[')b]China deploys giant drone Subs off Hainan, dwarf US & EU designs, experts warn


Sounds bad. Well...to the uninformed and uneducated maybe. So sure....not every Aussie is so uneducated they would fall for it...figures we get the one who is.
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Re: THE Nuclear Weapons/War Thread Pt. 2 (merged)

Postby theluckycountry » Fri 21 Nov 2025, 08:54:37

No, he doesn't like you either!

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Re: THE Nuclear Weapons/War Thread Pt. 2 (merged)

Postby AdamB » Fri 21 Nov 2025, 16:24:31

That look is on his face because the US has buried the world under more oil than Saudi Arabia has EVER been able to produce. Just another one of those things that the US can or has done....and no one else has. Or can. In the case of Australia, NEVER has and most likely NEVER will. And it isn't because your King won't let you...it is because you don't have what it takes.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', 'N')o, he doesn't like you either!

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Re: THE Nuclear Weapons/War Thread Pt. 2 (merged)

Postby AdamB » Fri 21 Nov 2025, 16:27:12

That look is on his face because the US has buried the world under more oil than Saudi Arabia has EVER been able to produce. Just another one of those things that the US can or has done....and no one else has. Or can. In the case of Australia, NEVER has, can't, and most likely NEVER will. And it isn't because your King won't let you...it is because you don't have what it takes.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', 'N')o, he doesn't like you either!

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Re: THE Nuclear Weapons/War Thread Pt. 2 (merged)

Postby theluckycountry » Sat 22 Nov 2025, 08:54:39

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'H')ead of the French armed forces said his country must be prepared to send its children to die in a war with Russia. "Russia is convinced that the Europeans are weak. However, we are strong, fundamentally stronger than Russia," Chief of the French Defense Staff General Fabien Mandon said.


Why not! There are too many of them anyway. And if they can get the ball rolling in the next couple of weeks we could make the Deagle deadline of 2025. Cause sure as hell this one will go nuclear. Will the US sent troops over? Of course they will if Great Britain demands it. It's always been that way. Australia? No, we've already told Trump were not going this time. Enjoy your World War III :lol:
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Re: THE Nuclear Weapons/War Thread Pt. 2 (merged)

Postby AdamB » Sat 22 Nov 2025, 11:05:28

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', ' ')Cause sure as hell this one will go nuclear.


Oh yes, the forums only certified parrot be THINKIN!

Well, at least it is a change from collapse collapse collapse....and these 4 or so years later.....still wondering when the parrot will parrot something else.
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Re: THE Nuclear Weapons/War Thread Pt. 2 (merged)

Postby theluckycountry » Fri 23 Jan 2026, 09:28:05

Finnish President Claims Europe Can 'Unequivocally' Defend Itself Without US

Well Finland certainly can, I don't know about the rest. The key word is defend...
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'F')inland has an extensive, unique network of underground nuclear bunkers, with shelters for over 80% of its population, built into bedrock and serving as peacetime facilities like hockey rinks, parking garages, and pools, ready to be converted for defense within 72 hours



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Re: THE Nuclear Weapons/War Thread Pt. 2 (merged)

Postby AgentR11 » Fri 23 Jan 2026, 10:57:37

Problem with a 72 hour window... well, its more like you get 15 minutes to go from warning to cooked. There is no 72 hour warning to prepare.
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Re: THE Nuclear Weapons/War Thread Pt. 2 (merged)

Postby theluckycountry » Fri 23 Jan 2026, 19:48:39

Why the negative knee-jerk. Haven't you heard the difference between strategic warnings and tactical warnings? The Fin's aren't totally stupid, they'll probably power them up weeks or months in advance, then it's just up to the consumer drones to get down into them when the first missiles are launched. And where they be launched to? Not there, but to America and England and France, at the other nuclear powers obviously. Finland mightn't even need any, someone has to be left to trade with.

As long as they don't cross their border and threaten Russia they'll be fine, they never should have joined NATO though, that was a BIG mistake, and totally unnecessary. It was like buying a sail boat just as a hurricane is approaching :P

Even in the worst days of Stalin they still retained their sovereignty. Russia has enough frozen wastes, it doesn't need another.
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Re: THE Nuclear Weapons/War Thread Pt. 2 (merged)

Postby AdamB » Sun 25 Jan 2026, 17:46:07

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', '
')Even in the worst days of Stalin they still retained their sovereignty. Russia has enough frozen wastes, it doesn't need another.


Geopolitical commentary from the local ignorant neoNazi. How interesting.....like a retarded child....reading from an AI script.
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Re: THE Nuclear Weapons/War Thread Pt. 2 (merged)

Postby theluckycountry » Sun 25 Jan 2026, 22:13:00

The truth is, 80% of the world's nuclear weapons are pointed at one nation, the united states.
80%? Yes, if you believe the declared stocks of Russia and China, then your a total fool. The great strategic hope for the US is their ballistic missile subs, 14 boats, with 8~10 at sea at any given time. Do you think shadowing these would be a priority? :lol:
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'O')hio-class ballistic missile submarines, commissioned between 1981 and 1997, are currently 29 to 45 years old as of early 2026. As the backbone of the U.S. nuclear deterrent these 14 active submarines (plus four converted SSGNs) were designed for a 30-year service life but have been extended to 42 years with decommissioning set to start in 2029


Old Old Old.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'C')hina’s attack submarine force is rapidly modernizing, focusing on the
Type 093/093A/093B Shang-class nuclear-powered attack submarines (SSNs) and AIP-equipped Type 039/039A Yuan-class diesel-electric submarines (SSKs). As of early 2026, China has become the world's second-largest operator of nuclear submarines

All super modern boats.
Russia isn't far behind with it's Yasen-class submarines, six completed since 2013.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'C')hina is developing and testing the world’s largest uncrewed underwater vehicles (XXLUUVs), measuring over 40 meters long and rivalling conventional submarines in scale. Designed for long-range autonomous missions these drones are being tested in the South China Sea and are capable of conducting reconnaissance near the U.S. West Coast.

Why build all this shit? What is China planning...
Remember Pearl Harbor. The Japanese wanted to expand and knew they had to neutralize the US as a threat first. Standard tactics, just wipe them off the map once and for all.
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Re: THE Nuclear Weapons/War Thread (merged)

Postby AdamB » Sun 25 Jan 2026, 22:43:25

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Subjectivist', 'I') have no doubt Japan has the ability to build one or more nuclear explosives within 90 days of the decision to do so.


Probably true. But there are others, like Australians, that can't pick their own noses without help.
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Re: THE Nuclear Weapons/War Thread Pt. 2 (merged)

Postby theluckycountry » Mon 26 Jan 2026, 07:29:17

Oh this is good. Open Borders?

US Navy Sailor Sentenced To Nearly 17 Years In Prison For Selling Military Secrets To China
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')ei Jinchao, also known as Patrick Wei, was arrested on espionage charges in August 2023 after reporting for duty aboard the USS Essex. Wei, a naturalized U.S. citizen, was convicted by a federal jury in San Diego of espionage and five other criminal counts.
On the same day Wei was arrested, another U.S. Navy sailor, Zhao Wenheng, who was based out of Naval Base Ventura County in California, was also taken into custody. Zhao, also found guilty of selling military secrets to China.


Chinese fifth columnists embedded in the US military. WWIII will be short.
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Re: THE Nuclear Weapons/War Thread Pt. 2 (merged)

Postby theluckycountry » Mon 26 Jan 2026, 19:32:34

The Pearl Harbor attack on December 7 1941 was led by a task force of six Japanese aircraft carriers. The Akagi (flagship), Kaga, Sōryū, Hiryū, Shōkaku, and Zuikaku. Akagi & Kaga: As part of the 1st Carrier Division, were the primary vessels.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'J')apan's newest operational aircraft carriers are the JS Kaga (DDH-184) and JS Izumo (DDH-183)

Japan's only aircraft carriers, built since 1945, are the two Izumo-class ships, JS Kaga and JS Izumo. I think they are sending a message :-D Oh I know what you're thinking, shallow thoughts, surface thoughts. "Two little carriers, so what?" It's at this point that your mind closes and you daydream of Big American carriers. But read on...

Fact is, though the Japanese surrendered in 1945, it was at the order of their Emperor Hirohito, they were never conquered, they were willing to fight to the last man. This is a big distinction in the minds of the Japanese. To surrender was dishonorable yet they did it, but not at the point of gun, at the point of a pen. A couple of small aircraft carriers are meaningless except as a statement. Nuclear weapons are what defines Global powers, do they have them?

Well unless they have been totally taken over by democratic wokeism, naturally they will. The nation still has the descendants of the feudal lords, the Daimyo families, who control large industrial banking and power companies.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he 1947 Constitution of Japan abolished the kazoku ( the hereditary peerage of the Empire of Japan, which existed between 1869 and 1947 and was formed by merging the feudal lords, the daimyō) This abolishment ended the use of all titles of nobility or rank outside the immediate Imperial Family. Since the end of the war, many descendants of the kazoku families continue to occupy prominent roles in Japanese society and industry. -wiki-

Sort of like how the communist party in Russia was "overthrown" by democracy and all the party members inherited the wealth and industry. How it's been run for decades by a loyal former KGB agent :P They re-branded themselves is all, the same mentality runs the country, the same Russian Culture guides the people. Culture is the key, especially with the Japanese.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he Rokkasho Nuclear Fuel Reprocessing Facility (Japan) is a nuclear reprocessing plant with an annual capacity of 800 tons of uranium or 8 tons of plutonium.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'C')oncerns regarding missing or unaccounted-for plutonium in Japan have centered on inventory discrepancies at processing facilities, particularly in the 1990s, and large, undeclared surpluses in recent years...

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '.')..Both the plutonium and the weapons grade uranium were provided by the United States and Britain to Japan’s civil nuclear program starting in the 1960s. And the Obama administration has been asking for the materials since before the president convened the first international Nuclear Security Summit in 2010, partly because U.S. officials were alarmed by how casually the explosives have been protected there. https://publicintegrity.org/national-se ... plutonium/

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')n 1970, the Institute of Space and Aeronautical Science of the University of Tokyo, the predecessor of ISAS, succeeded in launching Japan's first artificial satellite OHSUMI with the L (Lambda) rocket. Since then, the M rocket series developed for the launch of scientific satellites has undergone successive improvements for 25 years. https://www.isas.jaxa.jp/en/missions/launch_vehicles/

So, they have MOUNTAINS of fissile material and an advanced delivery system. Plus we can assume, all the tech necessary to construct the "physics packages." That's actually the easy part, the fissile material and delivery systems are the hard parts. So count them as a nuclear power too, undeclared like Israel, and one with a brooding grudge I'd suggest. The nation was actually becoming quite westernized prior to WWII. Dress, music, films, all the US influences we're used to. But at the outbreak of war the government, basically the military leadership, put a stop to that and banned it all. They acted like the muslims that have settled in Europe, who for a while will play the western game, but when they are strong enough they revert to sharia law, revert to their original culture.

The Japanese have a lot more in common with the North Koreans and Chinese than they do with the western powers they are now aligned with. Sure they hate them, they hate everyone who isn't Japanese lol, but I believe they hate the decadent uncivilized western cultures more. And like China, Japan has a long history of being strong-armed into submission by the British and then American empires. Better to make deals with their neighbors, and send all the warheads East across the Pacific than polluting their own backyard with fallout.

The lesson is there in Fukushima's fallout. Why attack West when it's all going to land right back in your lap.

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The air currents are similar to the ocean currents.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'P')revailing winds over Japan primarily blow from the west or northwest (westerlies) throughout most of the year, driven by mid-latitude atmospheric patterns.
I'm not suggesting this is their plan, but it's the natural thing to do. Just look at the Blacks in the US, have they forgotten their enslavement? Over 100 years later and they are still full of hate toward Whitee and that decadent culture. Their culture is vastly different, go read up on South Africa since the fall of apartheid and black rule to see the difference.

South Africa in 1970

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They like the benefits of White culture, they just aren't willing to work for them. That's their culture, obviously.
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Re: THE Nuclear Weapons/War Thread Pt. 2 (merged)

Postby AdamB » Mon 26 Jan 2026, 19:42:00

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', 'T')he Pearl Harbor attack on December 7 1941 was led by a task force of six Japanese aircraft carriers. The Akagi (flagship), Kaga, Sōryū, Hiryū, Shōkaku, and Zuikaku. Akagi & Kaga: As part of the 1st Carrier Division, were the primary vessels.


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