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Re: The Death of Cities

Unread postby theluckycountry » Wed 05 Nov 2025, 03:49:30

As the American empire is in it's death throws, living on past glories, it's being progressively torn apart by forces from within. Cowardly Democratic voters pursuing a communist agenda are seeking to pull down all the public institutions that have for a hundred years guaranteed a measure of public safety. These Hate-filled degenerates, typically led by sexual perverts and lesbian front-hole women, will see their cities be the first to die as they progressively fill up with illegal animals from 3rd world nations. These illegals are not accounted for on any census or government register and while law abiding citizens flee the anarchy to Blue cities they fill the void, turning once proud districts into ghettos. America is no stranger to ghettos, they were developed to house their former slaves, but this is on a whole other order.
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Re: The Death of Cities

Unread postby AdamB » Wed 05 Nov 2025, 20:47:28

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', 'A')s the American empire is in it's death throws, living on past glories, it's being progressively torn apart by forces from within.

Please, elaborate on what you learned on your most recent tour of America?

As opposed to thinking that everything can be learned on the internet?

None of us here are internet newbies Lucky, we all know who you are.

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Re: The Death of Cities

Unread postby theluckycountry » Wed 05 Nov 2025, 21:47:41

They murdered out nearly all of the American native races, enslaved Blacks to pick their cotton, invaded peaceful island nations and enslaved the peoples in plantations; Hawaii, Philippines. And they have the Gall, the unmitigated GALL to claim they are the bastions of freedom and democracy. A nation of total hypocrites is what they are.

A reckoning is coming. It always comes.

Outclassed across the board.

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Old tech, useless in the modern age. Sunk with a single hypersonic missile. That's the whole problem with the US. It's living in the past. Just like Britain was with it's Battleship fleet on the eve of WWII.
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Re: The Death of Cities

Unread postby AdamB » Thu 06 Nov 2025, 10:54:44

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', '
')Old tech, useless in the modern age. Sunk with a single hypersonic missile.

Maybe. State the number of American capital ships (carriers nowadays, but we had some reactivated battleships floating around for ahile) that have been DAMAGED by enemy action since the end of WWII.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', '
')That's the whole problem with the US. It's living in the past.


Except it's the present. And no one has tried out those hypersonic missiles yet on an American carrier. Which is why you can pretend they might work. And the other thing you don't mention, because you can't think any farther down the road than your nose, is what happens if someone DOES sink an American nuke carrier in a military action? Take just one step farther down the road of your scenario and ask THAT question. Again...you don't have to so easily PROVE you dropped out of high school to specialize in being a gullible cretin that can't think your way out of a wet paper bag.

Australia is like a land of pygmies...on an island lost in time....just standing around in awe of what America has accomplished while the best they can do is use a rock to sharpen a stick to spear koala bears for food.
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Re: The Death of Cities

Unread postby mousepad » Fri 07 Nov 2025, 13:19:18

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', '
')Old tech, useless in the modern age. Sunk with a single hypersonic missile. That's the whole problem with the US. It's living in the past. Just like Britain was with it's Battleship fleet on the eve of WWII.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_a ... ier_Fujian

Chinese commissioned aircraft carrier 5. November 2025.
Funny. Aren't you the guy that keeps telling us how much smarter the chinese are? What is it now? Are the chinks as dumb as the americans? Or is the aircraft carrier not so useless after all?
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Re: The Death of Cities

Unread postby AdamB » Fri 07 Nov 2025, 14:38:31

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mousepad', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', '
')Old tech, useless in the modern age. Sunk with a single hypersonic missile. That's the whole problem with the US. It's living in the past. Just like Britain was with it's Battleship fleet on the eve of WWII.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_a ... ier_Fujian

Chinese commissioned aircraft carrier 5. November 2025.
Funny. Aren't you the guy that keeps telling us how much smarter the chinese are? What is it now? Are the chinks as dumb as the americans? Or is the aircraft carrier not so useless after all?


Apparently they aren't as good as us quite yet. While it has EM launch catapults...apparently they forgot to include the nuclear power plant to keep the thing moving for 20-30 years without refueling. They must be so SMARTZ like Lucky and not mind being tailed with tankers?

I wonder if the Chinese sub fleet could keep the American sub fleet from sinking every tanker within 1000 miles of a Chinese carrier? And then slink around and wait until it wandered too close to those subs? Inquiring minds and all...
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Re: The Death of Cities

Unread postby AgentR11 » Tue 18 Nov 2025, 06:51:38

Bit of a weird thread to have Aircraft Carrier debates on, but the thing about Carriers... you have to have a legit mission for one, in order for them to be worth bothering with. In particular, lots of ocean based shipping; the US has such a mission, and China has such a mission. Russia does not have such a mission as a negative example. China knows they will need *more* carriers than the US, likely many more. And yes, they aren't nuclear powered. But they don't need to be. China's force projection distances, just aren't as high as ours. Its sufficient for them if they provide defense for their South China Sea claims. The US, needs to project force in a completely global manner; thus using nuclear power makes sense. Sailors can't eat nuclear fuel though, so there are still logistical limitations for US carriers, even with nuclear reactors.

As to hypersonic missiles... untried, unproven. Maybe they'll sink carriers, maybe they won't even make it through the air defense bubble of a task force. Truly an unknown. Not trivializing them, but just being realistic.

As to US subs sinking all the tenders; possible, but that doesn't really stop the Chinese carriers, as they are almost certainly within steaming range of a Chinese port with refueling capability. It is unlikely that a Chinese carrier would find itself off the coast of California; that's simply outside the mission scope of those vessels. No reason to be there, incapable of doing anything useful from that position. So wargaming such an event is just silly. So no, if our subs are going live fire against the Chinese Navy, they'll be targeting capital ships.
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Re: The Death of Cities

Unread postby theluckycountry » Tue 18 Nov 2025, 07:37:33

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mousepad', '
')Chinese commissioned aircraft carrier 5. November 2025.
Funny. Aren't you the guy that keeps telling us how much smarter the chinese are? What is it now? Are the chinks as dumb as the americans? Or is the aircraft carrier not so useless after all?


You just can't help yourself can you mp. Gotta run the flag up every time haven't you, reality means nothing when it comes to the stars and stripes.
China has what, approximately 370 battle force ships and submarines, including over 140 major surface combatants? And 3 aircraft carriers. Where are they deployed?
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 't')he Liaoning and the Shandong, are deployed for exercises in the western Pacific, operating beyond the first island chain and conducting training to improve their "far-sea defence" capabilities. The newest carrier, the Fujian, is also on the move, heading towards the South China Sea for joint operations and to deter other navies in the region


Close in defense, not spread all over the Globe, like in 1945 :lol:
The US uses theirs as a publicity stunt but as soon as a few Huthis drones show up they sail off with their tail between their legs.
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')The Huthis initially said they launched 18 missiles and a drone at the "aircraft carrier USS Harry Truman and its accompanying warships" in the Red Sea, before hours later claiming to have fired a second round. There was no immediate comment from the United States about the Huthis' claimed attacks.

The USS Harry Truman has left the Red Sea and was heading home as of May 2025 after its deployment for combat operations against Houthi militants.


Mission acomplished hey? Just like in Afghanistan :lol:
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Re: The Death of Cities

Unread postby AdamB » Tue 18 Nov 2025, 11:51:49

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AgentR11', ' ') China knows they will need *more* carriers than the US, likely many more. And yes, they aren't nuclear powered. But they don't need to be. China's force projection distances, just aren't as high as ours. Its sufficient for them if they provide defense for their South China Sea claims.


Absolutely right, as far as it goes. As long as China is interested in local power projection, it doesn't need nukes. They aren't aiming for global force projection. Yet anyway.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AgentR11', '
')As to hypersonic missiles... untried, unproven. Maybe they'll sink carriers, maybe they won't even make it through the air defense bubble of a task force. Truly an unknown. Not trivializing them, but just being realistic.


Pretty much.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AgentR11', '
')As to US subs sinking all the tenders; possible, but that doesn't really stop the Chinese carriers, as they are almost certainly within steaming range of a Chinese port with refueling capability.


Quite true. But I was arguing that without that nuke power plant the Chinese would be vulnerable as they wandered into global power projection rather than defending thier backyard. Additionally, being facetious, American nuke attack subs don't give a rats ass about the tenders. They will be busy sinking all the Chinese carriers, if the flyboys don't do it first.

Australians will be cowering in bomb shelters or something while all this is going on, and their ability to throw even vegemite at the Chinese from a distance is nonexistant.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AgentR11', '
') So no, if our subs are going live fire against the Chinese Navy, they'll be targeting capital ships.


Of course. But I do like the hyperbolic language writ large sometimes. And what might a Tomahawk filled once upon a time strategic nuke sub be doing? Showering the countryside and things of military value with those Tomahawks I imagine.
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Re: The Death of Cities

Unread postby theluckycountry » Tue 18 Nov 2025, 22:47:54

Just like the British empire before it collapsed... King of the seas it was, unassailable.
Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it. And so you shall, and so you shall.
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Re: The Death of Cities

Unread postby AdamB » Tue 18 Nov 2025, 22:51:12

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', 'J')ust like the British empire before it collapsed...


...and after it collapsed Australians STILL didn't have the balls to break free. EVER.

On your knees for your King, lapdog. No teeth now....the King is a bit sensitive after all the regular attention he gets from the men of Australia lacking...you know....cajones.
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Re: The Death of Cities

Unread postby theluckycountry » Tue 18 Nov 2025, 23:39:59

Not all cities will die. China's real economy already exceeds that of the US with it's funny money GDP based on share transactions, car loans and medical and other insurance payments. China's debt is very low compared to the US and it's infrastructure is all new, not the broken down crap smeared across America.

How's the replacement of that Baltimore bridge going? China has probably built 10 since that happened. And US cities are basically criminal warzones now with the national guard patrolling them. It's over for that empire and it's cities. It's like the rechargeable car bubble I spoke of years ago, it's over, you just can't see its final demise, but you can see all the steps down.

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Re: The Death of Cities

Unread postby AdamB » Wed 19 Nov 2025, 21:39:36

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', ' ') And US cities are basically criminal warzones now with the national guard patrolling them.


Was downtown just last week. No criminal war zones here. Or national guard. So which one did you visit where you noticed all this activity? Oh wait! Probably don't qualify to even enter the country, what tripped you up, breathalyzer, background check, DNA test to make sure your native/prisoner DNA percentage was below 50% and you failed? Or did the swastika tattoo give you away?
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Re: The Death of Cities

Unread postby theluckycountry » Thu 20 Nov 2025, 19:30:17

Coming to a US city near you soon.

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Re: The Death of Cities

Unread postby AdamB » Thu 20 Nov 2025, 22:03:45

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', 'C')oming to a US city near you soon.


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Re: The Death of Cities

Unread postby theluckycountry » Sun 23 Nov 2025, 09:39:09

When Fortune Turns Against Us

The last surviving work of classical antiquity, The Consolation of Philosophy, was written by Ancius Boethius (c. A.D. 480-524), a Roman official imprisoned in the wake of a political conspiracy. 'The Consolation' was the most influential philosophical book of the Middle Ages. In it, the doomed prisoner reflects on the real meaning of life: “While I was quietly thinking … to myself and giving vent to my sorrow with the help of my pen, I became aware of a woman standing over me.” The woman was Philosophy, appearing in female form. Philosophy, wrote Boethius, was a “nurse in whose house I had been cared for since my youth.” He turned to Philosophy and poured out his story as an innocent man falsely accused, imprisoned and awaiting execution. Philosophy patiently listened, then put the following question to Boethius: “Do you believe that this life consists of haphazard and chance events, or do you think it is governed by some rational principle?”

Boethius answered that he couldn’t believe in a haphazard reality. “In fact,” he said,” I know that God the Creator watches over His creation. The day will never come that sees me abandon the truth of this belief.” Philosophy admitted the belief was true enough. So why, she asked, was the prisoner so sick with grief when he understood that everything was in God’s hands? Surely, something was amiss in the man’s thinking. After a brief discussion Philosophy hit upon the “major cause” of Boethius’s illness: “…you have forgotten your true nature.”

When we don’t know who we are, we forget the real purpose of things. We imagine that “the wicked and the criminal have power and happiness.” But they don’t. Man comes into the world with nothing, and he leaves with nothing. What is there to lament? The happiness of good fortune is false happiness. Philosophy shows that our high expectations are ridiculous: “If after freely choosing her [Fortune] as the mistress to rule your life, you want to draw up a law to control her coming and going?” The Goddess Fortuna says to the fallen man, “Yes, rise upon my wheel if you like, but don’t count it an injury when by the same token you begin to fall, as the rules of the game will require. You must surely have been aware of my ways.”

It seems that we take our good fortune for granted, and when fortune turns ugly we lament the world’s unfairness. What do those who are blessed by fortune really know about the unfairness of the world? If the U.S. economy collapses and America goes hungry, will we remember the misfortunes of Bangladesh, Biafra, or Sudan? If millions suffer abroad, do we imagine that we are immune? The happiness of America, suggests Philosophy, is chance happiness. By its very nature, this happiness cannot last. It is temporal, it is transitory. One day our material happiness must turn to physical suffering and misery. This seems impossible to you, I know. You do not believe in Philosophy. You believe in your continued prosperity, that the economy will recover, that the barbarians will remain on the far side of the frontier, that your military is forever strong. But power and prosperity have made you stupid, so you are deluded. You have forgotten that whatever goes up must come down. That is the way of the world. Philosophy says to Boethius: “To him that enjoys it, happiness may seem full of delight, but he cannot prevent it slipping away when it will. It is evident, therefore, how miserable the happiness of human life is; it does not remain long with those who are patient, and doesn’t satisfy those who are troubled.”

Philosophy asks why we look for happiness outside ourselves when happiness lies within. “You are led astray by error and ignorance,” she says. The highest good cannot be taken away. It is something permanent, not transitory. Philosophy tells Boethius, “Since you are a man convinced by innumerable proofs that the human mind cannot die, and since it is clear that happiness which depends on chance comes to an end with the death of the body, it seems beyond doubt that if this happiness based on chance can bring pleasure, then the whole human race falls at death into misery. Yet we know that many men have sought the enjoyment of happiness through death and even through suffering and torment.”

The modern mind is unconvinced of this, and Americans are the quintessential moderns. We are also materialists who demand proof for everything. And the basest proof is the sensation of the body. Therefore we are hedonists who have turned our skepticism upon Philosophy’s itself, then look for happiness outside ourselves? “It seems as if you feel a lack of any blessing of your own, inside you, which is driving you to seek your blessings in things separate and external,” says Philosophy to Boethius. These words apply to us – to Americans living in A.D. 2009. “And so when a being endowed with godlike quality in virtue of his rational nature thinks that his only splendor lies in the possession of inanimate goods, it is the overthrow of the natural order. Other creatures are content with what is their own, but you, whose mind is made in the image of God, seek to adorn your superior nature with inferior objects, oblivious of the great wrong you do your Creator.”

By looking for happiness in things, instead of within, we make ourselves “lower than those very things.” This is what we have done to ourselves. And so we are headed for a fall. We are headed for disappointment. Like Boethius, America has enjoyed first rank among nations. We have enjoyed wealth and authority. But this cannot last forever. There are those who envy us, and those who seek our destruction. In our arrogance and confidence we refuse to see what is coming. We still worship Fortune and have yet to seek the consolation of Philosophy.

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Re: The Death of Cities

Unread postby AdamB » Sun 23 Nov 2025, 09:51:22

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', '[')b]When Fortune Turns Against Us

© 2009 J. R. Nyquist


SO, because you can't think of anything worth writing about, you just grab quotes that really aren't about peak oil but just....whatever?

I'm surprised you haven't used your new AI friend to do bunch of writing of whatever inane topic you are ignorant about.

How about this? Ask your AI to pick the oils off the global price benckmark list that aren't conventional? And we'll see if your favorite AI is smarter than a human expert such as myself?
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Re: The Death of Cities

Unread postby theluckycountry » Sat 13 Dec 2025, 07:51:52

What are the Democrats? What are the Republicans? They are two sides of the same coin. Each election cycle now the public gets more and more shrill, more and more deranged, and it doesn't matter who wins because the wars go on and the bills go up and up. Make America Great Again? Time to Heal? An oil grab in Venezuela might sound like a good idea now but so did Iraq and Afghanistan and we know how they ended. Big profits for the corporations and trillions of dollars debt for the american taxpayer. Venezuela would be no different and it could be a lot worse because now the BRICS are a major force. They haven't flexed their muscles yet, but when they do the US will be facing a united China, S-Africa, Russia, Brazil, Saudi Arabia, and all the rest.

A degenerate old empire that needs to deploy soldiers in it's cities to maintain order against the combined wealth and might of those nations? No contest. Venezuela applied to join the BRICS you know, just like the ukraine wanted to join nato. It was turned down, and probably because the group knew this was on the cards. They are not ready yet to show their hand but when they do you'll see some fireworks you can be assured of that. China isn't sailing rings around Taiwan just for fun, they will take that possession back. Historically it's a part of China just as Hong Kong was. Just as most of the ukraine was a part of Russia. The Death of the cities? Just like a terminal Cancer patient they are already dead, the occupants just haven't been handed the diagnosis yet.
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Re: The Death of Cities

Unread postby AdamB » Sat 13 Dec 2025, 11:26:38

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', 'W')hat are the Democrats? What are the Republicans? They are two sides of the same coin.


What are the Australians? What are the Brits? They are two sides of the intelligence scale....one with the DNA empire builders and a hallowed history of stature in the world, the other decendants of the scum the Brits imprisoned on an island to keep their DNA from infecting the Europeans....designed from inception to happily enjoy their servitude to the Crown.

Back on your knees Lucky...you were BORN for it....and not much else.
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Re: The Death of Cities

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