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Re: The Death of Cities

Unread postby theluckycountry » Sat 20 Sep 2025, 06:49:15

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('careinke', 'B')ecause just like the UK, he can be thrown into prison for criticizing his own government. That just leaves the US to criticize, because we DO have freedom of speech.


Can you name one Australian imprisoned for verbally criticizing the government? Just one?
And yes, you theoretically have freedom of speech, but like all the other laws encoded in the constitution they are meaningless if the government wants to lock you up.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')brams v. United States, 250 U.S. 616 (1919), was a decision by the Supreme Court of the United States upholding the criminal arrests of several defendants under the Sedition Act of 1918...

The defendants had been arrested in 1919 for printing and distributing anti-war leaflets in New York City. After their conviction under the Sedition Act, they appealed on free speech grounds. The Supreme Court upheld the convictions under the clear and present danger standard, which allowed the suppression of certain types of speech in the public interest. Wiki

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', ''')Citizenship won't save you': Free speech advocates say student arrests should worry all,
Columbia University Ph.D. student Ranjani Srinivasan was accused publicly by the Department of Homeland Security of being a terrorist sympathizer, with no evidence, when she got notice that her visa was revoked. She chose to leave.

"The First Amendment applies to people who are physically in the United States, regardless of their alienage, regardless of what country they were born in, regardless of the color of their skin, regardless of their immigration status," Lee said. "By … saying that attending a protest makes one a threat to American foreign policy, the administration is admitting that the Constitution is getting in the way of the fight for democracy. Something is not right there."
https://www.npr.org/2025/04/08/nx-s1-53 ... ation-gaza

Like most things in America, your free speech law is an illusion, the government can revoke it anytime they like. Right to bear arms :lol: I can think of any number of restrictions on that depending where you live. Also a criminal conviction on record takes it away. You're cannon fodder for European wars is all you are. British subjects still, and you though you'd escaped :roll:
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Re: The Death of Cities

Unread postby AdamB » Sat 20 Sep 2025, 09:13:29

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', ' ')You're cannon fodder for European wars is all you are. British subjects still, and you though you'd escaped :roll:


A little sensitive to your own political cartoons are you? Certainly once FDR started ignoring Churchill about the prosecution of the war against your Nazi breathern whatever illusion that the Empire and America were on equal footing was already out the window.

Let me guess, you never were taught any history about your own ownership by the Brits to this very day because you dropped out before those classes in the 9th grade?

Scrape and bow you little toad.

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Re: The Death of Cities

Unread postby theluckycountry » Sat 20 Sep 2025, 21:02:21

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', 'B')altimore's Decay Accelerates As Kevin Plank's Billion-Dollar Microcity...
Baltimore bridge rebuild could exceed ...


Educational Crisis: Baltimore High School Fails To Produce A Single Proficient Math Student In Four Straight Years
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 's')chool system: 40% of public high schools have zero students proficient in math. This damning statistic follows eight years of ...
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/edu ... th-student

Now I get it! Light bulb moment. For years I have assumed those reading these threads had a rudimentary understanding of arithmetic (Simple Maths) That they could read a simple chart (a line on a page with numbers telling you stuff)
I had know Idea how dumb Americans really were? I knew they had no understanding of Geography (Earth Mapping) and couldn't find France or Australia on a map. I knew they had all failed History, since they know nothing of the past before the invention of the iphone. Shit! all those charts picturing the Gold price would have gone straight over their heads. All those posts on declining EV and Alt Energy stuff would have been unintelligible to them. I'm gonna have to really Dumb all this down now, Dumbed back about 200 years with simple pictures of things they recognize and can understand, like a plate full of food and an empty plate. A big apple and a small rotten apple.

It will all have to be centered around food too, and breasts probably, since they are only interested in those two things. It's going to be like talking to retards, I mean REAL RETARDS, people whose brain never developed. And here I though it was just all the TV propaganda they fed on, I had no idea,

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Re: The Death of Cities

Unread postby AdamB » Sat 20 Sep 2025, 21:24:21

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', '
')Educational Crisis: Baltimore High School Fails To Produce A Single Proficient Math Student In Four Straight Years


Good thing it isn't an entire country....scrape and bow proper...little toad. Scrape and bow proper. Are you the least little bit embarrassed you can't discuss your son's accomplishments? Can he at least scrape and bow better than you?

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Re: The Death of Cities

Unread postby theluckycountry » Tue 23 Sep 2025, 04:43:36

Antifa Designated 'Domestic Terror Group' As White House Declares War On Radical Leftist Groups

:-D A nation cannibalizing itself

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', ' ') Section 1. Antifa as a Terrorist Threat.

Antifa is a militarist, anarchist enterprise that explicitly calls for the overthrow of the United States Government, law enforcement authorities, and our system of law. It uses illegal means to organize and execute a campaign of violence and terrorism nationwide to accomplish these goals. This campaign involves coordinated efforts to obstruct enforcement of Federal laws through armed standoffs...
https://x.com/RapidResponse47/status/19 ... 7193644374
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Re: The Death of Cities

Unread postby AdamB » Tue 23 Sep 2025, 09:16:17

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', '[')b]Antifa Designated 'Domestic Terror Group' As White House Declares War On Radical Leftist Groups

:-D A nation cannibalizing itself



Is the fascination with America because we are the most powerful nation, economically and militarily, in the world and you wished you were American rather than in some toady backwater? You would not be the first uneducated Third Worlder to think such a thing, so it isn't embarrassing or anything. And it isn't as though you have ANY ability to help out Australian "vegemite launchers" (called Rocket Scientists in the First World) so America certainly does not need yet more semi-literate backwater denizens wanting to set up a stupid shop here.

So I'll just stick with the jealousy angle I guess. Certainly would explain your fascination with the world's most powerful nation.

Have you ever visited America? Or did the folks who issue visas take one look at your slack jawed silly expression and inability to add 2+2 and get the right answer and just dismiss you out of hand?
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Re: The Death of Cities

Unread postby theluckycountry » Tue 23 Sep 2025, 11:44:15

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Americans Continue To Tap Into Retirement Accounts, Gen Z Men Embrace Conservatism
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A') WSJ analysis from June revealed that a record number of 401(k) holders made early withdrawals in 2024, with over 1/3 citing a foreclosure or eviction as the primary reason for tapping their retirement savings.

"I think we’re seeing it mainly because we’re still dealing with the effects of inflation over the past several years," said Maureen Paley, a Sacramento-based financial advisor. "And now the current economic environment also includes a lot of uncertainty."


So much for private retirement accounts. I have always said that those systems were a scam, a money making scheme for the banks and fund controllers and more pointedly, the companies they allocate the funds too. How many Cayman Island accounts have been fattened by payoffs from Musk? That's where a lot of the money is coming from to bid up Tesla stock, pension funds.

The funds are basically full of worthless paper promises on companies already bankrupt, when the pin on this grenade is pulled those retirement accounts will be worth cents on the dollar, taking the dreams of most people down with them. Then your government will come to the rescue with a new monetary system, a cashless system, Work till you die will be the order of the day for many. Gold will be one of the only safe havens.

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Re: The Death of Cities

Unread postby AdamB » Tue 23 Sep 2025, 12:31:02

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', '
')So much for private retirement accounts.


Just checked mine last week. Still there. Kicked the "bag-o-gold" just to make sure it was still there. Yup.

Mark up your comment to "from the lips of idiots" one more time I guess.
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Re: The Death of Cities

Unread postby theluckycountry » Wed 24 Sep 2025, 08:22:46

The Soaring Price Of Beef
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'Y')ou have doubtless seen the price of beef at the store. It is shocking, outrageous really, ticking up higher and higher each week. When all this began four years ago, many people assumed that prices would settle back down after the crisis ended. That has not happened. The problem is getting worse, not better.
https://www.theepochtimes.com/opinion/t ... ef-5918530

So what? Americans don't eat beef anymore, they eat Big Macs and cornflakes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrvWtyRR6kU

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Re: The Death of Cities

Unread postby AdamB » Wed 24 Sep 2025, 08:49:48

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', '[')b]The Soaring Price Of Beef


Whelp, I am nothing if not an honest scientist. Yes, the price of beef is up.

Of course, my McDonald's hamburger prices are up as well. It was 28 cents back in 1975. Minimum wage back then was $2.10/hour. So that burger would have cost me 0.13 hours of work. Nowadays a McDonalds hamburger costs about $2.40. Minimum wage here in Colorado is $14.18/hour, so that burger costs 0.17 hours of work.A 30% increase over half a century. Obviously scientists, particularly honest ones like me, no longer make minimum wage. If I were to calculate the % of MY hourly wage...well...needless to say individual worries about affording a McDonalds hamburger are nil.

Hey! I wonder if the parrot thought his McDonalds asshattery would demonstrate that the rate of increase on a beef thing WOULD BE THAT LOW over half a century? Probably not...it would have required some thinking....and parrots don't do that.
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Re: The Death of Cities

Unread postby mousepad » Wed 24 Sep 2025, 09:44:04

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AdamB', '.')A 30% increase over half a century.


That is crazy. Instead of going down in price due to efficiency and productivity gain due to half a century of innovation in automation and such, the price actually INCREASED!!
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Re: The Death of Cities

Unread postby AdamB » Wed 24 Sep 2025, 10:04:31

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mousepad', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AdamB', '.')A 30% increase over half a century.


That is crazy. Instead of going down in price due to efficiency and productivity gain due to half a century of innovation in automation and such, the price actually INCREASED!!


Horrifying I know. However, efficiency and productivity gains certainly happened..but they cost money...so those LOUSY businesses kept all the benefits of those gains to themselves! It has something to do with stock prices, and return on capital, and oligarchs demanding that all businesses milk consumers as heavily as possible to keep them amenable to politicians selling them loads of bullshit about how only THEY can make things better.

Of course, those politicians are the ones then using insider information to buy/sell/trade in the marketplace to maximize their own profits in the scheme.

It really is an outstanding system to fleece the normal consumers who support all this behavior by pretending that if only vote for the OTHER party, Republicrat or Democan, that things will change. It has worked like a charm since the days of the robber barons (since renamed "oligarchs").

What's up Mouse? How is the old truck treating you? My old car just crapped out its blower motor resister and now I've got to take something "modern" on my coming up walkabout. Nothing wrong with modern except...you know......it is modern. Normal Japanese unobtrusive bland, versus old school American iron idiosyncratic.
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Re: The Death of Cities

Unread postby mousepad » Wed 24 Sep 2025, 10:14:50

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AdamB', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mousepad', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AdamB', '.')A 30% increase over half a century.


That is crazy. Instead of going down in price due to efficiency and productivity gain due to half a century of innovation in automation and such, the price actually INCREASED!!


Horrifying I know. However, efficiency and productivity gains certainly happened..but they cost money...so those LOUSY businesses kept all the benefits of those gains to themselves!


That makes no sense at all. There's enough competition in burger land that any efficiency gain would be passed along to customers to maintain market share.
There must be something else going on to explain the ridiculous price increase. Limit to growth anybody?

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')What's up Mouse? How is the old truck treating you? My old car just crapped out its blower motor resister and now I've got to take something "modern" on my coming up walkabout. Nothing wrong with modern except...you know......it is modern. Normal Japanese unobtrusive bland, versus old school American iron idiosyncratic.

I'm in deep shit at work right now. Not much time for funny business.
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Re: The Death of Cities

Unread postby AdamB » Wed 24 Sep 2025, 10:56:48

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mousepad', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AdamB', ' ')However, efficiency and productivity gains certainly happened..but they cost money...so those LOUSY businesses kept all the benefits of those gains to themselves!


That makes no sense at all. There's enough competition in burger land that any efficiency gain would be passed along to customers to maintain market share.


Maybe. Some eschew market share and quality for lower quality and more profit. Look at what Stellantis has done with Jeep. Cost cutting out the wazoo, jacked prices to the moon...and now are surprised at the backlash against Wagoneers with plastic body panels, shitty electronics and new fangled European designed crap they shoe horned into cars sold to MURICANS!

Economics is a social science for a reason. Advertising doesn't work when it comes to the physical sciences as to right or wrong, but economics? Academics trying to explain herd think, while almost NEVER giving you the range of uncertainty around their claims.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mousepad', '
')There must be something else going on to explain the ridiculous price increase. Limit to growth anybody?

Limits to growth applies to everything. As to when and where it appears however....look at the peak oilers who have been recycling their concept of limits to growth...since 1886.

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I'm in deep shit at work right now. Not much time for funny business.

Well, good luck with that. I'm quite busy as well but no one has ever outlawed my vacation time to take a break when I want one. I wouldn't work for them if they did.
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Re: The Death of Cities

Unread postby theluckycountry » Thu 25 Sep 2025, 03:46:34

It's not that people do drugs and lose hope
They lose hope and then turn to drugs.
From all my observations it began in 1970, Peak oil and the offshoring of meaningful work for the people.

An American small town.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSRCSEZQcks
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Re: The Death of Cities

Unread postby AdamB » Thu 25 Sep 2025, 08:57:56

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', 'I')t's not that people do drugs and lose hope
They lose hope and then turn to drugs.


And you know this from personal experience? Or perhaps you learned it when your son followed this path?
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Re: The Death of Cities

Unread postby theluckycountry » Thu 25 Sep 2025, 10:17:40

We're 17 years past the peak now and the 3rd World is going hungry and dark. We'll be next, we're well on the way in fact.
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Re: The Death of Cities

Unread postby AdamB » Thu 25 Sep 2025, 12:19:41

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Interesting. Not only do uneducated Australians not know that the US is a Democratic Republic, but they don't know they are a Constitutional Monarchy... i.e. -still suckling on the teat of Kings and Queens, kept defenseless, taught to be weak, have their personal armaments stripped away so they don't even THINK about growing a small pair of cajones so they won't even ATTEMPT what Americans accomplished HUNDREDS of years ago.

And aren't for shit on getting vegemite off the ground. Try a kite next time? Could take awhile to design it, manufacture it, and then find an American to help you fly it...but still....could get vegemite off the ground farther than multi-million dollar "rockets". If that is what this was.

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Re: The Death of Cities

Unread postby theluckycountry » Fri 26 Sep 2025, 00:17:15

The Post Office Has Become An Embarrassment
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')his week I landed myself smack dab in the middle of a real-life example of just how piss-poor of a capital allocator the government is compared to the free, for-profit market. Usually, when I want to mail something, I walk a block or two to either the UPS Store or the FedEx store. Both are pretty similar...
https://quoththeraven.substack.com/p/wi ... o-services

Lets stop there and go back to the first sentence. Our journo is claiming government services are a boondoggle because they aren't a for-profit corp, yet for hundreds of years that same postal system no doubt provided quality service to all and sundry. What went wrong? Outsourcing of course, it was the only change. The Government allowed private capitalist corporations to come in and then found they couldn't compete. Why? Because Fatcats will pay the lowest wages and allow crap conditions for their workers but government has to be fair. So allowing corps to take over everything is simply reintroducing Serfdom. Small businesses care for their employees, because they have to live shoulder to shoulder with them. Not franchise bullshit, real small business. Big business owners can live on the other side of the planet, what do they care about their "human capital". They are just so many animals in a factory to them.

Some things are best left under government control (the People's control) and postal is one of them. Electricity distribution is another. These things are part of the commons, you need them, you don't need Amazon or Tesla or McDonalds, but you need your mail delivered. Once people allow their elected officials (who are ALL corrupt) to do these deals with the private for profit sector they will get screwed to the wall. Companies don't mind paying extra, they can write it off on tax, householders can't!

Postal is a money loser by design, it's something the government must subsidize out of taxes, for the greater good. Same with Ambulance and Fire and Railroads and bus services. America has sold it's soul to the corporations and in so doing has allowed the trillions to flow into the pockets of the fatcats instead of staying in the pockets of the people.

This is an early peakOiler, where is she now 20 years later? Doing fine, or struggling to exist in the dystopian US world of greed and corruption? Many had hope back then. There is no hope now.

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Re: The Death of Cities

Unread postby theluckycountry » Fri 26 Sep 2025, 22:59:09

Bullshit Jobs
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')hese are (currenty), the Most In-Demand Jobs Of The Next Decade.
In light of the rapid advancements that AI tools have made since the release of ChatGPT ...


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That's the whole country, it's living in a dream world, living in an episode of Startrek. Futuristic energy propels them across the Galaxy and fresh food magically appears on tables. A 400 person crew, where do all the daily shits go? I've never seen anyone even having a piss on that show but people do piss and shit. Today enormous energy labor and infrastructure is employed in cities to deal with that but people just push a button and think nothing of it.

Just imagine trying to feed a city of 5 million without diesel powered trucks. Huge trucks bringing it in from hundreds and thousands of miles away, medium sized trucks carting it from distribution hubs to individual stores. They aren't doing it because they love people and want to ensure they are well fed, they are doing it for Profit, MONEY. Take away the Diesel and you take away the profit. They will close up shop and walk away.
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