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TESLA-More Than Just EVs

Unread postby careinke » Thu 16 Oct 2025, 05:14:22

TESLA deserves its own topic, so here it is.

While most people associate TESLA with electric vehicles, the company encompasses much more: Full Self-Driving (FSD), GROK AI, the Optimus robot, and even diners. I’ll start with FSD and cover the rest as time permits.

Today, TESLA released FSD version 14.2. Here's what InvestAnswers had to say:
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')esla's FSD has unshakeable faith in its wizardry.

They just released version 14.2, featuring a wild “Mad Max” mode that blasts through LA traffic like something out of a sci-fi movie. It’s insanely bold — almost unbelievable — and shows just how confident they are in what they’ve built. Milisecond response times are needed to anticipate erratic LA drivers where many are either nuts,medicated or high half the time

Few understand.

PS Ashok is head of Autonomy


For context, I own a red 2026 Juniper LR with FSD Premium. I’ve logged just over 5,000 miles and spent $164.00 for 1,445 kWh — equivalent to 153 MPG based on the U.S. average gas price.

I’m still on FSD 13 (Supervised), but I voluntarily provide audio feedback when I exit FSD. This means I’ll get version 14 after the “Influencer” YouTubers run it through its paces. That’s fine with me — it’ll make my transition to FSD 14 much smoother.

The biggest change for me from 13 to 14 is speed control. Previously, you could set the top speed using the right scroll wheel. Now, that wheel selects the driving mode — think of them as gears, tailored to your Tesla model. Here’s how they break down (from fastest to slowest):

Mad Max – See quote above.

Hurry – Pretty aggressive and likes to change lanes.

Standard – Tries to stay in the current lane but will change if needed.

Chill – Accelerates and decelerates gently, avoiding abrupt moves.

Sloth – Always drives the speed limit.

It also looks like FSD14 has nailed the parking program, this was one of the biggest complaints before. It handles Parking Lots, Curbside Parking, Parking Garages, and Slant Parking very well.

I believe the vast improvement in parking was due to a much larger compute combined with enhance depth perception from the cameras.

I can't wait to try it.

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Re: TESLA-More Than Just EVs

Unread postby mousepad » Thu 16 Oct 2025, 09:18:08

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While most people associate TESLA with electric vehicles, the company encompasses much more: Full Self-Driving (FSD), GROK AI, the Optimus robot, and even diners.

Didn't it also have this solar business? What happened to that?
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Re: TESLA-More Than Just EVs

Unread postby careinke » Thu 16 Oct 2025, 13:31:39

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While most people associate TESLA with electric vehicles, the company encompasses much more: Full Self-Driving (FSD), GROK AI, the Optimus robot, and even diners.

Didn't it also have this solar business? What happened to that?


Oops, Yes, Tesla's Energy Division offers solar panels, and the solar roof along with Powerwall home batteries and Megapack for energy storage.

Thanks for the Catch.

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Re: TESLA-More Than Just EVs

Unread postby theluckycountry » Thu 16 Oct 2025, 18:31:58

Cars that no one wants to buy, robots that are clunky and will probably never see the light of day, The powerwall side, now undercut by the Chinese and not viable, and Grok, another useless AI engine among dozens of useless AI engines. Garbage in garbage out.

The home solar market had been in collapse long before Musk entered Trump's orbit, same with his EV sales. That was just a convenient cover to explain why everything in his empire was losing value. How much has he spent on the optimus robot venture? About 2 billion to date, that's nothing, that's marketing petty cash. Were talking about a market cap of 1.3T, two billion is covered in a single days movement of the stock. And lets face it, without the "iRobot" angle the stock would probably be right down the drain. But Musk has spun the company as an innovator from the start so it's no surprise he'd cook up this scheme.

Tesla is indeed more than just EV's, it's the biggest scam on the American stockmarket, and the hope of all techno-cornucopians from Ushuaia to Anchorage Alaska. Don't bother looking at the share price, that's meaningless, it has as much meaning in today's world as WeWork did or as Rivian at it's peak. You think you're buying a growth stock? Think again. Nothing about Tesla sales is growing.
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Re: TESLA-More Than Just EVs

Unread postby careinke » Sun 19 Oct 2025, 14:59:38

This will be a very volatile week for Tesla. Earnings call will be on Thursday, Tesla always includes some surprises, should be interesting.

I will be watching football today, so thought I would drop a few tidbits for you. I found a new Youtuber I enjoy, it's called "Bestin TESLA". The 2.5 Hours in the title refers to how long it takes to make one.

"Tesla’s Model Y in 2.5 Hours with 95% Robots - VW Crumbles - Semi V4 Chargers - Legacy Panics"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnyttjYBeew

Wow, one out of every three cars sold in Norway is now a TESLA. In addition, China is installing 100 Solar panels per second, crash testing on the Cybertruck gets a GOOD rating vs Ford's 150 with a POOR rating. The video also blows away the lie EV demand is dropping.

one last tidbit NOT from the video. The average new car price in the U.S. is now $50,000.00, TESLA has several EV's below that price.

Enjoy, it's a good video.

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Re: TESLA-More Than Just EVs

Unread postby AdamB » Sun 19 Oct 2025, 16:06:18

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('careinke', '
')one last tidbit NOT from the video. The average new car price in the U.S. is now $50,000.00, TESLA has several EV's below that price.
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Meanwhile, in non-Tesla land, my brand new $11.5K Nissan has 11k miles on it so far, and will get its 2nd tire rotation soon.

<large yawn>

Doing exactly what was expected of it. Which is to say....starts...goes....starts...goes....etc etc.

I've got a better baseline on its efficiency, the wife is about 4.8 miles/kwh, which beats her efficiency on the old Leaf, which was maybe 4 miles/kwh, give or take. I beat her efficiency like a red headed step child though, I've been good at getting max efficiencies out of cages since I bought my first and HATED spending money on fuel. I can get a solid 5.5 miles/kwh out of the Nissan in all non-interstate 80mph enviroments.
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Re: TESLA-More Than Just EVs

Unread postby careinke » Sun 19 Oct 2025, 17:11:58

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AdamB', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('careinke', '
')one last tidbit NOT from the video. The average new car price in the U.S. is now $50,000.00, TESLA has several EV's below that price.
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Meanwhile, in non-Tesla land, my brand new $11.5K Nissan has 11k miles on it so far, and will get its 2nd tire rotation soon.

<large yawn>

Doing exactly what was expected of it. Which is to say....starts...goes....starts...goes....etc etc.

I've got a better baseline on its efficiency, the wife is about 4.8 miles/kwh, which beats her efficiency on the old Leaf, which was maybe 4 miles/kwh, give or take. I beat her efficiency like a red headed step child though, I've been good at getting max efficiencies out of cages since I bought my first and HATED spending money on fuel. I can get a solid 5.5 miles/kwh out of the Nissan in all non-interstate 80mph enviroments.


OK after doing a little research the lowest MSRP price for an all electric Nisan Leaf is $29995. How did you get a new one for $11,000?

I also watched some test drives ect. The interior has a lot of TESLA similarities and looks pretty cool. There is no FSD equivalent in cities, and the freeway driving is similar to TESLA's without FSD.

Your miles per KWH is way higher than mine. When I divide total miles driven buy KWH used, mine pencils out to 3.45 miles per KWH, significantly lower than yours. I was wondering if we are using the same method?

When I look at the specs on new Leafs it shows a 94MPG, My Juniper works out to 153MPG.

Anyway, I bought my TESLA on the hopes FSD will improve enough, quickly enough, to prevent my Kids from taking my car keys away. Something I would expect them to do, just like I did with my mother.

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Re: TESLA-More Than Just EVs

Unread postby theluckycountry » Mon 20 Oct 2025, 14:49:23

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('careinke', 'I') found a new Youtuber I enjoy, it's called "Bestin TESLA". The 2.5 Hours in the title refers to how long it takes to make one.

It's called confirmation Bias. You decide you want to buy something and then only look at the positives, then afterwards you continue to only watch stuff that promotes it. I think if I was a youtuber, a vlogger, I'd choose to sing the praises of something like the tesla too. It's where the money is, people are basically shallow these days and only want to hear nice things.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')ow, one out of every three cars sold in Norway is now a TESLA.

That's what you can achieve when you're a massive oil and Gas exporter, have a population the size of an average Western city. 5.6 million, and offer untold incentives to city drivers.
Incentives include: No import taxes; 50% reduction in road taxes, Toll road exemptions, Free or reduced passage on most Norwegian highways, Free or discounted parking in major Norwegian cities, Reduced rates on Norwegian ferry services, access to bus lanes.
As of early 2025, nearly 29% of all cars on Norwegian roads are electric. Which is about where it will stop too because they are shitfull in cold weather and Norway has abysmal weather. All the Rural people rely on Diesel, they would be totally isolated without it. Beginning next year Norway will scale back it's incentives. Let's see how sales go then?
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'C')hina is installing 100 Solar panels per second

They are certainly eating your lunch over there. Have you seen their space station? It makes the ISS look like a homeless encampment.

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Re: TESLA-More Than Just EVs

Unread postby careinke » Mon 20 Oct 2025, 15:52:38

unlucky,

Tesla’s Model Y has received a Gold award at the 2025 Australian Good Design Awards, placing it among a select group of global projects recognized for excellence in innovation, user experience, and sustainability.

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Re: TESLA-More Than Just EVs

Unread postby AdamB » Mon 20 Oct 2025, 16:17:49

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('careinke', '
')OK after doing a little research the lowest MSRP price for an all electric Nisan Leaf is $29995. How did you get a new one for $11,000?


I would like to say my skills of persuasion, charm and good looks made it happen, but that would be a lie.

The came home from work on a Frdiay after getting tires rotated and an oil change on one of my other Nissan's, and she happened to mention that the dealers lot was full of these Ariya SUV things, with some stupid silly prices/leases being plastered on all their advertising. Saturday night, being bored and wondering what an Ariya was and why they might be cheap, I scoped out the dealer she had been at, then about 5 others in the metro area. The prices were bonkers. Something was amiss in the supply/demand world of EVs.

Turns out, corporate Nissan had made some sort of decision related to what appeared to be the anti-EV attitudes of the current administration, worried about and possibly having already lost some tax credits based on where the EV parts came from, decided to give their own money on top of any incentives available locally or nationally (Colorado has decent credits) and presto. Saturday night I debated it (already had a perfectly functioning Leaf), by Sunday night after scoping all local inventory I picked a color the wife liked, called the dealership Monday morning to make sure they weren't lying on their website, and stopped in to buy it around 2PM before a doctors appointment. I made the deal and left for the appointment, the wife and boy drove down, collected it and took it home. 24 miles on the odometer. $29,XXX on the sticker, I paid 11.7G's give or take. Sold the other one to a nice older lady who didn't want to burn gasoline for $5G's.

I watched the Leaf prices for a month or two afterwards, thought about getting another but I've got like 5 cages and a couple motorcycles and just don't need more. Anything I have that might break, the wife or kids just grab another set of keys and head out the door, let the old man worry about fixing stuff. The prices on the Leaf bounced up $5G's within a couple weeks, and a couple weeks after that came back down to more like $12.8G.

They wiped out the entire inventory within a major metropolitan area within about 8 weeks. And suddenly you see Ariya's all over the place as well, they had like $100/month leases on new ones with like no money down. It was crazy.

First new car I've purchased in a decade....I find new and used prices post Covid by by the manufaturers to be highway robbery.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('careinke', '
')Your miles per KWH is way higher than mine. When I divide total miles driven buy KWH used, mine pencils out to 3.45 miles per KWH, significantly lower than yours. I was wondering if we are using the same method?

Not a surprise mine might be slightly better. I'll bet your tesla weighs a fair amount more than mine, and certainly has more get up and go. While both my Leafs accelerated smartly, the wife has been in the bosses Rivian and both her Tesla's and they are just outright rocket ships.

I've got my own Level 2 Chargepoint charger in the garage, it gives me kWh in every night, I presume the odometer isn't that far off, I compare the KWh in with miles driven across a given week or so, and then check that against the onboard calculator that comes with the car. They line up pretty well. I'm betting it comes down to use as well. When the wife runs all interstate, 75+ mph, it impacts the efficiency obviously. Whereas if I am feather footing it around secondarys, coasting anywhere I can, using higher levels of regenerative braking without using the brakes and coast as much as possible (both my Leafs have REALLY liked to coast) I beat her pretty well. But on the interstate our numbers are closer together, just no in-town type advantage to be had.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('careinke', '
')Anyway, I bought my TESLA on the hopes FSD will improve enough, quickly enough, to prevent my Kids from taking my car keys away. Something I would expect them to do, just like I did with my mother.
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I had to take them away from my mother and step dad. My wife is currently threatening me with the same.
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Re: TESLA-More Than Just EVs

Unread postby AdamB » Mon 20 Oct 2025, 16:23:47

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('careinke', 'u')nlucky,

Tesla’s Model Y has received a Gold award at the 2025 Australian Good Design Awards, placing it among a select group of global projects recognized for excellence in innovation, user experience, and sustainability.

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Certainly demonstrating that it sure as shit ain't Australian. That and the fact that Elon can launch cars (that Australians can't build) on rockets (which Australians can't build) to Mars...which Australians probably can't even identify as to where it sits in the Solar System. And then there are the American helicopters, which Australians can't build, that normal Americans sent to Mars (which Australians couldn't tell you where it was) to do that exploring stuff.

Did a Chinese plane just scare the bejesus out of some Australian flying a plane with flares (the Australian not flying an Australian plane because they can't build those either) out of his shorts and he ran away crying to the King to protect him just this very day?
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Re: TESLA-More Than Just EVs

Unread postby theluckycountry » Mon 20 Oct 2025, 22:18:19

The ISS probably isn't all that bad. After all the Russians are the main players there. Those 3 in the pic above look a little odd to you? Russian Cosmonauts probably.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')pril 2025: Russia takes an American astronaut to the space station
BAIKONUR, Kazakhstan, April 8 (Reuters) - A Russian spacecraft safely delivered an American astronaut Jonathan Kim and two Russian cosmonauts to the International Space Station (ISS) on Tuesday, a flight hailed by Moscow as an example of fruitful Russia-U.S. space cooperation.
The Russian Soyuz 2.1a rocket blasted off from the Baikonur cosmodrome in Kazakhstan carrying Kim and Russians Sergei Ryzhikov and Alexei Zubritsky, docking three hours later with the ISS, Russia's Roscosmos state space corporation said.
Once the hatches were opened, Kim and the Russians were shown smiling and hugging their companions on the station, which now has 10 people on board, including four NASA astronauts, five Russians and Japanese astronaut Takuya Onishi.
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Unread postby careinke » Tue 21 Oct 2025, 02:26:11

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AdamB', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('careinke', 'u')nlucky,

Tesla’s Model Y has received a Gold award at the 2025 Australian Good Design Awards, placing it among a select group of global projects recognized for excellence in innovation, user experience, and sustainability.

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Certainly demonstrating that it sure as shit ain't Australian. That and the fact that Elon can launch cars (that Australians can't build) on rockets (which Australians can't build) to Mars...which Australians probably can't even identify as to where it sits in the Solar System. And then there are the American helicopters, which Australians can't build, that normal Americans sent to Mars (which Australians couldn't tell you where it was) to do that exploring stuff.

Did a Chinese plane just scare the bejesus out of some Australian flying a plane with flares (the Australian not flying an Australian plane because they can't build those either) out of his shorts and he ran away crying to the King to protect him just this very day?


I was just surprised they had enough Engineers to make a group, of course a lot of First Worlder's have moved there.

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$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('careinke', '
')I was just surprised they had enough Engineers to make a group, of course a lot of First Worlder's have moved there.
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It does have some nice scenery. They are also famous for this big rock sitting out in the middle of nowhere, and really shitty Olympians. I suppose lacking mountains and a DNA gene pool based on criminals you stick with whatever you've got. The beaches are supposedly first rate as well. And unlike most Third World countries unable to protect themselves from a platoon of Chinese soldiers wanting to take the place over, they've got at least the meager military of the Monarchy making sure they stay subjugated to the right western folks.

If I wanted to retire somewhere in the Monarchy I think I'd head to Canada or New Zealand where they don't have that polluted gene pool problem, plus both of them have some fine mountain terrain.
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Laser-wielding device is like an anti-aircraft system for mosquitoes
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he Basic Edition model of the Photon Matrix has a 90-degree, 3-meter (9.8-ft) scanning/killing range, which is boosted to 6 meters (19.7 ft) in the Pro Version. Both models are claimed to be capable of dispatching up to 30 mosquitoes per second. And yes, they even work in pitch-black bedrooms.

Importantly, the device additionally uses millimeter-wave radar to scan its field of view for larger objects such as people and pets. If any of these are detected, its mosquito-zapping laser will not fire.
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$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'B')ut assuming the Photon Matrix does reach production, a pledge of US$468 will get you a Basic Edition, with $629 required for the Pro Version.

Pay, just pay and don't ask questions. You'll be the envy of the neighborhood.
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$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', '[')b]Laser-wielding device is like an anti-aircraft system for mosquitoes
https://newatlas.com/around-the-home/ph ... osquitoes/


Pimping Chinese stuff because the local minerals extraction Chinese Manager of Kangaroo Riding Banana Stampers Commandant required it of you? Do they even PAY you for being a supplicant to the local minerals extraction team? Let me guess, after servicing your King the Chinese let you do the same for the local Commandant?
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Unread postby theluckycountry » Sat 01 Nov 2025, 03:36:27

Why can't Americans get themselves to the ISS without hitching a ride with the Russians? Well they could go with the Space-X, a private corporation, but that mob charges twice the price! We didn't know that did we... Whatever funding NASA still gets is funneled into S-X so Elon can make more profit at American taxpayer's expense. And He's not even an American, but an immigrant from SA, via Canada! He's a royalist really, O but he knows how to scam the American system. Dumb Americans falling over themselves to sing the praises of a South African White :lol:
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Unread postby AdamB » Sat 01 Nov 2025, 11:48:26

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', 'W')hy can't Americans get themselves to the ISS without hitching a ride with the Russians?


Why can't the Russians resupply the ISS themselves?
Dragon cargo flight list going back 13 years] Why can't the Russians supply the ISS with what it needs?

SpaceX Crew 11 Mission included Americans and Russian astronauts. Russians not being able to get people to ISS maybe?

Stick with kangaroos for transport halfwit.
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Unread postby theluckycountry » Sat 01 Nov 2025, 20:21:23

So how are those tesla robots coming along... All quiet after the last sales pitch isn't it? Now the chatter is about Elon's flying car, which will have some "rockety stuff" in them according to him in one interview. But Shhhhh, it all super secret, just Believe and Bid up Tesla shares. It will all be over soon.

Berkshire's Cash Pile Hits A Record $382 Billion Amid Continued Stock Sales As T-Bill Purchases Soar.
-He's nearly All-Out, and so should you be. But you're not Buffet are you, you're just the dumb masses that make Buffett rich :lol:

3 Reasons Warren Buffett Doesn’t Own Tesla Stock — Should You Invest? https://finance.yahoo.com/news/3-reason ... 45061.html

Hell one reason would be enough! But yes, you should invest :shock:
How else is the GDP going to rise without all that paper shuffling back and forward. Don't be selfish, don't put your own future ahead of the Nation's. Invest in America!

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$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', 'S')o how are those tesla robots coming along...


<shrug>

Better than anything any Australian has ever built? It isn't as though your country can build them.
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