by AdamB » Mon 20 Oct 2025, 16:17:49
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('careinke', '
')OK after doing a little research the lowest MSRP price for an all electric Nisan Leaf is $29995. How did you get a new one for $11,000?
I would like to say my skills of persuasion, charm and good looks made it happen, but that would be a lie.
The came home from work on a Frdiay after getting tires rotated and an oil change on one of my other Nissan's, and she happened to mention that the dealers lot was full of these Ariya SUV things, with some stupid silly prices/leases being plastered on all their advertising. Saturday night, being bored and wondering what an Ariya was and why they might be cheap, I scoped out the dealer she had been at, then about 5 others in the metro area. The prices were bonkers. Something was amiss in the supply/demand world of EVs.
Turns out, corporate Nissan had made some sort of decision related to what appeared to be the anti-EV attitudes of the current administration, worried about and possibly having already lost some tax credits based on where the EV parts came from, decided to give their own money on top of any incentives available locally or nationally (Colorado has decent credits) and presto. Saturday night I debated it (already had a perfectly functioning Leaf), by Sunday night after scoping all local inventory I picked a color the wife liked, called the dealership Monday morning to make sure they weren't lying on their website, and stopped in to buy it around 2PM before a doctors appointment. I made the deal and left for the appointment, the wife and boy drove down, collected it and took it home. 24 miles on the odometer. $29,XXX on the sticker, I paid 11.7G's give or take. Sold the other one to a nice older lady who didn't want to burn gasoline for $5G's.
I watched the Leaf prices for a month or two afterwards, thought about getting another but I've got like 5 cages and a couple motorcycles and just don't need more. Anything I have that might break, the wife or kids just grab another set of keys and head out the door, let the old man worry about fixing stuff. The prices on the Leaf bounced up $5G's within a couple weeks, and a couple weeks after that came back down to more like $12.8G.
They wiped out the entire inventory within a major metropolitan area within about 8 weeks. And suddenly you see Ariya's all over the place as well, they had like $100/month leases on new ones with like no money down. It was crazy.
First new car I've purchased in a decade....I find new and used prices post Covid by by the manufaturers to be highway robbery.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('careinke', '
')Your miles per KWH is way higher than mine. When I divide total miles driven buy KWH used, mine pencils out to 3.45 miles per KWH, significantly lower than yours. I was wondering if we are using the same method?
Not a surprise mine might be slightly better. I'll bet your tesla weighs a fair amount more than mine, and certainly has more get up and go. While both my Leafs accelerated smartly, the wife has been in the bosses Rivian and both her Tesla's and they are just outright rocket ships.
I've got my own Level 2 Chargepoint charger in the garage, it gives me kWh in every night, I presume the odometer isn't that far off, I compare the KWh in with miles driven across a given week or so, and then check that against the onboard calculator that comes with the car. They line up pretty well. I'm betting it comes down to use as well. When the wife runs all interstate, 75+ mph, it impacts the efficiency obviously. Whereas if I am feather footing it around secondarys, coasting anywhere I can, using higher levels of regenerative braking without using the brakes and coast as much as possible (both my Leafs have REALLY liked to coast) I beat her pretty well. But on the interstate our numbers are closer together, just no in-town type advantage to be had.
')Anyway, I bought my TESLA on the hopes FSD will improve enough, quickly enough, to prevent my Kids from taking my car keys away. Something I would expect them to do, just like I did with my mother.