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Re: The Death of Cities

Unread postby AdamB » Mon 29 Sep 2025, 22:58:02

Did representative of failed vegemite launching country say something again?
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Re: The Death of Cities

Unread postby mousepad » Tue 30 Sep 2025, 07:47:38

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AdamB', 'D')id representative of failed vegemite launching country say something again?


I think we got the message by now, Adam. Australians can't build rockets.

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')In rhetoric, a general guideline suggests repeating a crucial point three times to establish a rhythm and ensure it's remembered

3 times the charm. Not 30. :-)
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Re: The Death of Cities

Unread postby theluckycountry » Tue 30 Sep 2025, 14:15:34

Well we can build little rockets, just not with a lot of success. I remember they had a program at the University of Queensland when I was studying there, 30 odd years ago. It was called HighShot or something. It was basically a program to get engineering students some credits in rocketry so if they wanted to go work for Boeing they had a better resume. Australia has never seriously pursued such a program since the 1940's.

I was watching an unbiased youtube last night that described the failure of the Boeing "StarLiner", it described the waste of the Shuttle program too, a program that was nothing more than a nod to the shuttles in Space Odyssey 2000 I thought. It worked, but at 4 times the price of conventional rocketry. So yes, throw enough money at something and you'll get results.

Whose the leader there now? A south African immigrant. An Hustler, a wheeler dealer, a marketing man basically, a salesman. You only have to listen to his interviews, there isn't an engineering bone in his body. He has a degree in physics and economics, the latter being BS and the former being praiseworthy. But I have known enough Engineers who transitioned into sales from the start and they forgot more than they learned. If you're a good salesman, that's all that matters, and Elon is the consummate salesman.

I don't have any issue with Australia's toy rocket failures, and to honest, I didn't even know of them. I don't read Australian news unless there is a disaster ongoing, it's boring. God knows Boeing and Space-X have had their share of failures too though, that's just been part of the game from the very beginning in Germany. But our endeavors are just that, kids playing with toys, nothing serious. It's the media that spins it into a Big Story like it matters no doubt. The same media that Raves on about a "Blue Moon" or a "Lunar Eclipse" as though those mean anything. Australia is quite a boring country as far as innovation and drama goes and that probably contributes to the Hype. There is not much going on here that's sensational and newsworthy. We just go about the business of living ordinary lives, acquiring the best tech from around the world in exchange for resources, Food and minerals, Energy. We're a practical people, we don't have delusions of grandeur. How could a nation with such a tiny population and such high wages ever hope to compete with the big industrial players like Japan and Germany, China and to a lesser degree now, America. Look at Singapore, Population 6 Million, a total success? For China yes.

Demographics of Singapore
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')s of June 2025, the population of Singapore stood at 6.11 million. Of these 4.20 million are residents, consisting of about 3.66 million citizens and 540,000 permanent residents. While Malays are recognized as the indigenous community, 75.5 percent of citizens and permanent residents are ethnic Chinese, with Malays and Indians making up 15.1 and 7.6 percent respectively. These three groups comprise 98.2 percent of the ethnic citizen population.

It's not so much a country but a factory, a financial hub like Hong Kong, and a petrochemical Hub. So success but not for the peoples in the street so much.

Big programs like Space rocketry might give some a sense of national pride, but they don't put steaks on the table or motorcycles in the garage. Here the government provides free healthcare and a pension of $2600/month, more if you don't own a house! A pension that's means tested, but you can have like $300,000 in the bank before they begin cutting it. I'd rather have that than a bunch of rockets sending boffins to the International Trailer Park, or crashing cars into the surface of Mars :lol: And that should have been the wake up call for all Tesla Fanboi, Manned Mars mission? In your dreams.
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Re: The Death of Cities

Unread postby theluckycountry » Tue 30 Sep 2025, 14:27:40

Singapore, it was an important port, controlled by the British for the longest time.

Singapore cracks down on Chinese influence
The city-state wields its foreign-interference law for the first time. 2024
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '')FESTIVE FEVER” is how the Singapore Chinese Cultural Centre describes the national mood in the run-up to Chinese New Year on February 10th. A different fever troubles the government of Singapore: how to deal with China’s allegedly extensive influence operations in the city-state. This month a sweeping new law against foreign interference was invoked for the first time, against a Hong Kong-born Singaporean, Philip Chan.
https://www.economist.com/asia/2024/02/ ... -influence

For the first time? A bit like closing the gate once the horses have bolted. It's a possession of the Chinese Empire now (speaks for the near future)
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Re: The Death of Cities

Unread postby theluckycountry » Tue 30 Sep 2025, 15:51:22

Firefly Aerospace Shares Plunge After Rocket Test Ends In Fireball
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he first stage of Firefly Aerospace's Alpha FLTA007 Rocket was lost during a ground-based test at the company's testing facility in Briggs, Texas, on Monday.


Business as usual. But interesting isn't it... Just think about it, the world's engineers can build safe cars, ships, planes and trains, Helicopters, all manner of complex transport mediums. But for some reason reliable rocketry is beyond their grasp? Of course the common denominator is the highly explosive fuel they all use, but still...

But if you want to see the cutting edge of space technology, the Tiangong Space Station shits all over anything the US has ever put into space.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODM-YgNv8e8
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Re: The Death of Cities

Unread postby AdamB » Tue 30 Sep 2025, 19:01:50

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', '[')b]Firefly Aerospace Shares Plunge After Rocket Test Ends In Fireball

Who the hell is Firefly? Some Australians trying to beat their countries BEST and BIGLY accomplishments of all time!!! Hoping some American exceptionalism will leak into them if they launch from Texas?

Example of Aussie "rockets".

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Re: The Death of Cities

Unread postby theluckycountry » Wed 01 Oct 2025, 04:17:22

Experts Question Boeing's Space Business after Starliner Failures
https://learningenglish.voanews.com/a/e ... 63026.html
Firefly Aerospace is an American aerospace company based in Cedar Park, Texas, founded in 2014. The company specializes in developing small- and medium-lift launch vehicles for commercial launches to orbit.
Specializes in Disasters more like it.

SpaceX's giant Starship breaks failure streak on 10th test flight
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYpWlbA8lpQ

Only Ten failures...

Houston, were Lost.

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Looks like it's up to the Chinese to take us into the 21st Century.

China, "Wifi", integrated flatscreens

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ISS, a million cables, laptops on stands, 1000 things to smash your head on :roll:

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Old 20th century tech, just like everything the WEST makes. Pathetic.
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Re: The Death of Cities

Unread postby theluckycountry » Wed 01 Oct 2025, 04:31:56

US Space industry

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Meanwhile in China

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A US Space station? In your dreams, they don't even have a rocket to get to one. They have to go hat in hand to a South African immigrant just to get a lift up to the ISS :lol:
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Re: The Death of Cities

Unread postby theluckycountry » Wed 01 Oct 2025, 04:53:35

SkyLab, 1973. That was the Only US space station, they are only one of many players in the ISS, Russia being one and the nation that had to ferry US astronauts up there :lol:

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What's that on the top, a sheet of corrugated iron?
Let's face it, the Glory days of the US are all in the past, all back in the 1970's and before. They are nothing now but a pile of old nuclear weapons and warships.


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Re: The Death of Cities

Unread postby theluckycountry » Sun 05 Oct 2025, 16:48:37

Going Postal!

US Postal Service Mail Carrier Shot By Amazon Driver
It's mail wars.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A') U.S. Postal Service worker was shot in the face during an altercation Friday afternoon in Everett, Washington, and a rival package delivery driver is in custody, according to local police and a postal inspector. “USPS workers don’t let people in the area when they have the mailboxes open. The Amazon driver didn’t particularly like that, they got into an argument, which escalated to a shoving match, which escalated to the Amazon driver shooting the USPS guy in the freaking eye!!! Then he sat there calmly and waited for the cops to show up and claimed self defense,”
https://www.freightwaves.com/news/u-s-p ... zon-driver

Interesting really. Not your everyday shooting story.
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Re: The Death of Cities

Unread postby theluckycountry » Thu 09 Oct 2025, 10:12:55

People think Trump is crazy, his followers even will admit he's all over the shop. But it's just a facade. He's doing what they all did before him, Wars, protecting the Banks, Protecting the Medial industrial complex, protecting All big Business. Now look at this.

The Problem With the Plan to Send National Guard to Cities
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'B')lah Blah Blah ...Trump has stated that sending in the National Guard will clean up a number of cities. This has been cited as successful in Washington. But has it been? The presence of armed soldiers certainly quells street crime. The tendency to commit crimes will definitely be affected by gun toting military cruising the streets. But what happens after the Guard leaves? Will the criminals simply reappear?


But what if they don't leave? What if this is more than it seems? What if this is preparations for the madness that would ensue after a total collapse of the dollar and markets? I mean come on, sending military personnel in to secure cities? Where does that happen. Sure it's happened there before, on a small scale, but nothing like this! Personally I think the powers that be know full well what's coming and are preparing for it. Getting the National Guard used to the idea of policing cities.

They papered over the GFC quickly enough and it never really effected the poor (the malcontents) anyway, but things are different today. The social security system is at risk, the EBT system too. An unresolved Government shutdown, how convenient...

Hanlon's Razor states, "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity"
But the opposite can be true as well. "Never attribute to stupidity that which is adequately explained by malice." The coming collapse is well predicted, unavoidable, will be disastrous for the western world. To think the leaders of the nation's don't have a plan for it is childish.
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Re: The Death of Cities

Unread postby AdamB » Tue 21 Oct 2025, 14:11:46

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', 'S')kyLab, 1973. That was the Only US space station, they are only one of many players in the ISS, Russia being one and the nation that had to ferry US astronauts up there :lol:


LOL indeed...as Aussies demonstrated in their vegemite launching exercises....

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Re: The Death of Cities

Unread postby theluckycountry » Sat 25 Oct 2025, 19:41:53

A federal program that helps low-income Americans pay their heating bills is running out of money
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'L')inda Botica lives alone in Chicago. She’s 74 years old, and said her monthly Social Security check is her only source of income. “I'm at the point where, after I pay my rent, I only have, like, $200 to live on for the month,”.

Which means LIHEAP is crucial for her in the Chicago winter. She’s received it for five years. But her annual benefit, she said, has shrunk each year. So she keeps the temperature on her electric baseboards pretty low. “I'll sit with my coat on, you know, it's only me here. You know, it sounds so ridiculous, but it's reality,” she said.
https://www.marketplace.org/story/2025/ ... his-winter

Selfish old woman. With all the homeless she could easily get a border, even if they slept on the lounge, and use their foodstamps to offset her heating costs.

Imagine an earlier era though, she'd probably have family to look after her, would be living there in a little cabin surrounded by forest timber to keep her warm. Probably have a vegie patch etc. People survived in the colonial era up there just fine, but now with these huge cities devoid of trees and healthy soil it's becoming a mission just to stay warm, and that's with a pocket full of free money every month!

Angkor Wat temple complex, which was the center piece of a vast city was re-discovered in the jungles of Cambodia in 1860. It was never truly lost, many knew of its existence, but it was covered in thick jungle and the haunt of jaguars. No one was interested in exploring it before the French got involved.
At its peak in the 13th century the Greater Angkor Region's population is estimated to have been between 700,000 and 900,000 people. A sprawling metropolis and one of the largest cities in the world during the medieval period, significantly larger than most European cities at the time.

Now they have tidied the place up quite a bit, helped no doubt by all the clear cutting of trees for industrial applications. Will it still be a tourist hub in 500 years? Or will other more interesting ruins be, like NY City for example.

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Re: The Death of Cities

Unread postby AdamB » Sun 02 Nov 2025, 23:22:30

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', '[')b]A federal program that helps low-income Americans pay their heating bills is running out of money


You haven't explained your jealousy and fixation on America. Did you try and immigrant once and get turned away for the obvious reasons? Not get a work permit because America didn't need uneducated blowhards or something?
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Re: The Death of Cities

Unread postby theluckycountry » Mon 03 Nov 2025, 06:48:19

Just listen to these grunters
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Jltznfom ... ture=share

A lame 1960's type rocket comes back to earth with the aid of some modern tech and they are about to orgasm. Their fathers walked on the moon and all they have to celebrate now is another 100 starlink sats in low orbit. Faster porn for them to masturbate over.

A South African's rocket company, funded by NASA, the porn enablers :lol:
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Re: The Death of Cities

Unread postby AdamB » Mon 03 Nov 2025, 14:22:15

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', 'J')ust listen to these grunters

Why would anyone watch a video put forward by someone who doesn't know the difference between a fact and the spew that comes off their keyboard?

Perhaps some lead-in, as to whatever idiot source of information you are about the pollute the board with?
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Re: The Death of Cities

Unread postby theluckycountry » Mon 03 Nov 2025, 18:22:52

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'F')actors Contributing to the Freight Market Decline

Freight volumes have dramatically decreased, with year-over-year figures showing a staggering 18% decline. This precipitous drop has created severe challenges for motor carriers struggling to find loads and for freight brokers operating with minimal volume to sustain their businesses.
https://www.freightwaves.com/news/large ... ory-coming

No it's not a Doom aggregator site, it's a site dedicated to all things trucking in the US and it's just pointing out a fact many would be ignorant of. Why, in a vibrant economy, would freight volumes be falling off a cliff? $this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')ndustry experts anticipate numerous bankruptcies among both carriers and brokers in the coming months as financial pressures mount.

Yes of course, and the rest of the story is equally obvious, but what is not obvious, what is not spoken of, is why the decline?

The death of the cities is a multifaceted event but part of it is 'exodus', which we are not seeing yet, and part of it is ongoing poverty, which results in reduced consumption, which results in less trucks needed to bring stuff in. Cars, washing machines, food stuffs, you name it. The US has been in obvious decline for decades now. It's economy hollowed out and transformed into a financial economy that only benefits the sellers of Insurance and bank products and Financial instruments like shares. Debt has allowed people to maintain levels of consumption (truck loads basically) and the lowering of interest rates to unprecedented levels has dragged this self-impoverishment out much much longer than it otherwise would have.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '2')nd Q -2025- Total household debt in the US increased by $185 billion from the prior quarter to a new record high of $18.39 trillion in Q2 2025. “This quarter’s flow of household debt into serious delinquency was mixed across debt types, with credit card and auto loans holding steady, student loans continuing to rise, and mortgages edging up slightly,”
https://tradingeconomics.com/united-sta ... ance-total

18.4T divided by 258.3 million adults is an average of $71,000 in debt for each adult. Of course many don't have anywhere near this amount and many have a lot more. The days of paying off the mortgage and being debt free are a thing of the past, and the more debt, the more interest eating away at the family finances. Is it any wonder Freight volumes have declined 18% yoy? You're watching your civilization implode, in real time. All due to exuberance and personal greed.
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Re: The Death of Cities

Unread postby AdamB » Tue 04 Nov 2025, 10:49:14

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', '
')No it's not a Doom aggregator site, it's a site dedicated to all things trucking in the US and it's just pointing out a fact many would be ignorant of. Why, in a vibrant economy, would freight volumes be falling off a cliff?


Interesting question. I've got a better one. Why does an uneducated foreigner LOVE talking about US stuff? Jealousy? Hopes and dreams that one day you will be swept away by an invite to live in the most powerful country ever assembled in the history of the human species? Where you can join your betters digging ditches or holding one of those signs telling traffic to stop and go at traffic sites?
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Re: The Death of Cities

Unread postby theluckycountry » Tue 04 Nov 2025, 20:03:19

Blue State Cities See Largest Population Loss As Red State Cities Boom
https://www.forbes.com/sites/patrickgle ... ties-boom/

People are fleeing Democrat run cities. No surprise there.

Population Declined the Most in These U.S. Cities – 2024 Study
https://smartasset.com/data-studies/pop ... cline-2024

It's a trend that will continue of course. Just like the Roman cities that were progressively abandoned near 2000 years ago. They just become untenable. The smart people get out first and buy a home in the rural areas where life is more sustainable. The mentally weak follow later, as refugees. Or simply die in place.
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Re: The Death of Cities

Unread postby AdamB » Tue 04 Nov 2025, 23:23:48

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', '[')b]Blue State Cities See Largest Population Loss As Red State Cities Boom
https://www.forbes.com/sites/patrickgle ... ties-boom/


What's the American jealousy/fascination thing all about? Can't get a visa or something to see how we became the most powerful country in the world...which all started with kicking out your King 250 years ago?

Its about brains and balls Lucky. Go find some..not YOU of course, it is too late for you...but begin advocating for better education, better Olympians, better parents not embarassed about their own children, not jealous of America but understanding how we got to where we are and GROW A PAIR AND GET RID OF YOUR KING AND BE YOUR OWN COUNTRY!! America taught you how a QUARTER MILLENNIUM AGO!! PICK UP A HISTORY BOOK ALREADY!!!!
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