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The Death of Suburbia Pt. 2
Re: The Death of Suburbia Pt. 2
by AdamB » Sat 12 Jul 2025, 15:25:47
Yeah, parrots have now stopped repeating words in articles and wants people to watch other folks parroting for them.
Plant Thu 27 Jul 2023 "Personally I think the IEA is exactly right when they predict peak oil in the 2020s, especially because it matches my own predictions."
Plant Wed 11 Apr 2007 "I think Deffeyes might have nailed it, and we are just past the overall peak in oil production. (Thanksgiving 2005)"
Plant Wed 11 Apr 2007 "I think Deffeyes might have nailed it, and we are just past the overall peak in oil production. (Thanksgiving 2005)"
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Re: The Death of Suburbia Pt. 2
by AdamB » Sat 12 Jul 2025, 15:28:10
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', 'A')nd if a dog comes in front of you on the road, just run it over you idiot
And when a parrot posts, it is best ignored, lest the reader be struck as dumb as the parrot.
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Plant Thu 27 Jul 2023 "Personally I think the IEA is exactly right when they predict peak oil in the 2020s, especially because it matches my own predictions."
Plant Wed 11 Apr 2007 "I think Deffeyes might have nailed it, and we are just past the overall peak in oil production. (Thanksgiving 2005)"
Plant Wed 11 Apr 2007 "I think Deffeyes might have nailed it, and we are just past the overall peak in oil production. (Thanksgiving 2005)"
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Re: The Death of Suburbia Pt. 2
by theluckycountry » Sat 12 Jul 2025, 17:59:37
Suburbia is really a complex of many systems, all designed to make the inhabitants content, well fed, safe, etc. It's a 100 year old oil-age experiment, on how to domicile millions of worker bees outside the hive but within easy reach of it. Of course right from the beginning was the object of making money from the sale of them, from their construction and the services provided to them, from their upkeep and expansion. So while the beautiful billboards depicting young families playing in their own yard were designed to portray the benefits to the consumer, all the hidden costs and downsides were behind the curtain.
Credit where credit is due, these downsides were minimal and the new suburbs were amazing places and lived up to their claims, urban living in a rural setting as JHK described them. And for the longest time, and still now for many, they were quite affordable, safe and comfortable places to live. Have your own backyard garden, grow food if you want. My parents had all manner of fruit trees and even a vegie garden and chook pen in the early days (1960's). Of course as salaries went up, all that went away, we didn't need it. Unlike a small rural acreage though the costs associated were destined to rise and rise until it became a juggling act for local governments to maintain them all. Water mains aging, roads degrading, and of course the cost of the electricity services to them are all now a real issue in many older burbs.
The simple fact that this degradation is setting in shows that they cannot be afforded in the era of declining oil. It's all a matter of dollars, double the property rates and there is all the money you need to rebuild the suburban roads and replace the aging water mains networks. So why not just double the rates? Or why haven't they gone up incrementally to stay ahead of this decay? Obviously the people living there can't afford this as they once did. When oil was cheap everything was cheap and the income of households was much greater in proportion to these costs. I maintain my car and bikes for example, but when they shows signs of degradation I don't "patch them up" I replace them. Across town though there are people who can't afford this, they have to patch their cars up, as best as they can afford. The same happens on the grand scale and the simple fact that so much of our suburban infrastructure has fallen into decline suggests that, on average, people can't afford it now.
What other conclusion can you draw? You don't have to compile a mass of data and compare it, though you could if you wanted. You simply have to look around and what people can afford. Large swaths of the nation are struggling just to pay food and utilities.
At some point they won't be able to afford even the patchup of roads and water mains, and that is when suburbia will become a total failed experiment. This is in comparison to small rural famlet or lifestyle block by a dirt road, with it's own water supply, it's own power supply perhaps, the occupants growing a proportion of their own food. It might get tough for them but the old septic tank or drop toilet will still be functioning, some modern suburbs are so tight packed and the sewage plants so far away that there is simply no solution if the power goes out. You're in the shit, literally.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '2')022: Multiple equipment failures, unheeded alarms and insufficient staffing at the city's largest wastewater treatment facility are the likely causes of a "nearly catastrophic" flood that dumped millions of gallons of untreated sewage into Santa Monica Bay last summer, according to an official report obtained by The Times.
Although a full understanding of what triggered the Hyperion Water Reclamation Plant crisis may never be completely determined, study authors said there was “little or no evidence” that the failure was caused by a deluge of concrete and wood that were illegally dumped into the city's vast sewage system — a claim initially made by sanitation officials.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/report-human ... 10296.htmlCredit where credit is due, these downsides were minimal and the new suburbs were amazing places and lived up to their claims, urban living in a rural setting as JHK described them. And for the longest time, and still now for many, they were quite affordable, safe and comfortable places to live. Have your own backyard garden, grow food if you want. My parents had all manner of fruit trees and even a vegie garden and chook pen in the early days (1960's). Of course as salaries went up, all that went away, we didn't need it. Unlike a small rural acreage though the costs associated were destined to rise and rise until it became a juggling act for local governments to maintain them all. Water mains aging, roads degrading, and of course the cost of the electricity services to them are all now a real issue in many older burbs.
The simple fact that this degradation is setting in shows that they cannot be afforded in the era of declining oil. It's all a matter of dollars, double the property rates and there is all the money you need to rebuild the suburban roads and replace the aging water mains networks. So why not just double the rates? Or why haven't they gone up incrementally to stay ahead of this decay? Obviously the people living there can't afford this as they once did. When oil was cheap everything was cheap and the income of households was much greater in proportion to these costs. I maintain my car and bikes for example, but when they shows signs of degradation I don't "patch them up" I replace them. Across town though there are people who can't afford this, they have to patch their cars up, as best as they can afford. The same happens on the grand scale and the simple fact that so much of our suburban infrastructure has fallen into decline suggests that, on average, people can't afford it now.
What other conclusion can you draw? You don't have to compile a mass of data and compare it, though you could if you wanted. You simply have to look around and what people can afford. Large swaths of the nation are struggling just to pay food and utilities.
At some point they won't be able to afford even the patchup of roads and water mains, and that is when suburbia will become a total failed experiment. This is in comparison to small rural famlet or lifestyle block by a dirt road, with it's own water supply, it's own power supply perhaps, the occupants growing a proportion of their own food. It might get tough for them but the old septic tank or drop toilet will still be functioning, some modern suburbs are so tight packed and the sewage plants so far away that there is simply no solution if the power goes out. You're in the shit, literally.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '2')022: Multiple equipment failures, unheeded alarms and insufficient staffing at the city's largest wastewater treatment facility are the likely causes of a "nearly catastrophic" flood that dumped millions of gallons of untreated sewage into Santa Monica Bay last summer, according to an official report obtained by The Times.
Although a full understanding of what triggered the Hyperion Water Reclamation Plant crisis may never be completely determined, study authors said there was “little or no evidence” that the failure was caused by a deluge of concrete and wood that were illegally dumped into the city's vast sewage system — a claim initially made by sanitation officials.
Sanitation officials go into cover up mode, the obvious first human response to a screw up in their own backyard. Aging infrastructure played a part in this of course. And in the future?
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'S')outh Africa is facing a sewage crisis. Over 90% of the nation's treatment plants discharge untreated or partially treated sewage into limited water resources
SA’s ongoing sewage crisis
https://iol.co.za/business-report/econo ... r-quality/
Blame it on a corrupt Black communist government if you like, but it simply comes down to money, what the people there can afford. It'll happen to nearly all suburbs across the globe eventually, they are just too dispersed and the population density too low for these systems to be maintained beyond a certain point or oil cost/income.
We're 17 years past the peak now and the 3rd World is going hungry and dark. We'll be next, we're well on the way in fact.
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As for what's happening in Europe that's on a similar level now I think. Those ragheads kill their own daughters and sisters if their honor is brought into question, how much easier to stab some German girl because she's in a short dress and behaving like a whore in their eyes.
