[careinke]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Newfie', 'I') am not gonna defend Biden or the D's in general. They screwed up major league and IMHO are responsible for the current fiasco.

Trump/Musk need to measured on their own success and failures.

I can see that there has been corruption and waste, always has been no matter the ruling party. Frankly I see Trump as a repudiation of BOTH traditional Republican and Democrat parties. I haven't voted for quite a while because I could see no significant difference between the parties. It was time for a shake up.

I did vote against Trump this time because I asked him as both having dementia and delusions. So far, my mind has only been changed toward strengthening those previous assessments.

A shake up was needed, this is not a shake up, it is a coup attempt.

[Shaved Monkey]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('careinke', '
')
How do you have a coup when trying to return to the Constitution? I voted for Trump because his team understands math and the Dims never will.
Pretty sure the Dims have destroyed their party for the next 20 years. I'm also glad Brandon didn't pardon himself, it will allow the commonsense party to expose the criminals. I am also looking at the constitutionality of pardons for crimes never identified or prosecuted. The supreme court will be busy.

I do agree that both parties were corrupt, that's why we need the Audit.

Peace

[Shaved Monkey]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEfJdtdtEoc&t=157s
Quite a good take

[EnergyUnlimited]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Shaved Monkey', '
')The one led by the first Felon to be made President

[careinke]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Shaved Monkey', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('careinke', '
')
How do you have a coup when trying to return to the Constitution? I voted for Trump because his team understands math and the Dims never will.
Pretty sure the Dims have destroyed their party for the next 20 years. I'm also glad Brandon didn't pardon himself, it will allow the commonsense party to expose the criminals. I am also looking at the constitutionality of pardons for crimes never identified or prosecuted. The supreme court will be busy.

I do agree that both parties were corrupt, that's why we need the Audit.

Peace

[theluckycountry]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('EnergyUnlimited', '
')If something doesn't work AT ALL (and America now as we speak is an example of it) it is best to crush a system and build a new one rather than trying to repair something what actually needs replacing.

[Shaved Monkey]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('careinke', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Shaved Monkey', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('careinke', '
')
How do you have a coup when trying to return to the Constitution? I voted for Trump because his team understands math and the Dims never will.
Pretty sure the Dims have destroyed their party for the next 20 years. I'm also glad Brandon didn't pardon himself, it will allow the commonsense party to expose the criminals. I am also looking at the constitutionality of pardons for crimes never identified or prosecuted. The supreme court will be busy.

I do agree that both parties were corrupt, that's why we need the Audit.

Peace

[theluckycountry]

The parallels between Trump and Hoover are very interesting to line up.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'H')e won the Republican nomination in the 1928 presidential election and defeated Democratic candidate Al Smith in a landslide. In 1929, Hoover assumed the presidency.

[careinke]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', 'T')he parallels between Trump and Hoover are very interesting to line up.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'H')e won the Republican nomination in the 1928 presidential election and defeated Democratic candidate Al Smith in a landslide. In 1929, Hoover assumed the presidency.

[theluckycountry]

Even the Amish are in party mode
https://packaged-media.redd.it/rdh5ectr ... 52f21a1b6e

[theluckycountry]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', '[')b]Zuckerberg rebrands himself, no longer an arsehole

[Newfie]

Carinke,

How you feeling about the tariffs ?

[AdamB]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('careinke', '
')You really think he wont win his appeal?

[Doly]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'H')ow you feeling about the tariffs ?

[Newfie]

Doly,

When you mentioned psychohistory my ears perked up. Have you ever heard of The International Psychohistorical Association? My Wife is an active member.

Your thoughts are interesting but I don’t know that this current administration is amenable to logical analysis. There was a statement from Trump today that was a real head spinner. He wants both negotiated tariffs and permanent tariffs but wants free trade, or some such. I think there are certain mental illness’ that are not amenable to logical analysis. And Trump has three of them.

[Tanada]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Newfie', 'C')arinke,

How you feeling about the tariffs ?

[yellowcanoe]

My understanding of international trade is that if you have a net flow of capital into your country it is inevitable that you will be running a trade deficit. Given the size of the US economy and its stock markets the US is seen as a good place to move money to, however given the amount of government and personal debt and the relatively low savings rate Americans have they really do need capital from abroad to help finance their debt. A more useful way to reduce the trade deficit than tariffs would be for the Federal government to stop running such large deficits and get Americans to save more and spend less. Neither of these are likely to happen though.

[theluckycountry]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'H')erbert Hoover served as President from 1929 to 1933. Who, like Trump, rode a major electoral victory into office by promising to help workers through protectionist policies. Within seven months of Hoover’s inauguration on Black Thursday, Oct. 24, 1929, ”the great Hoover bull market” on Wall Street collapsed plunging the United States into the Great Depression.

Trump’s promise to order mass deportations is a direct parallel to what Hoover did in 1929 when he ordered the deportation of up to 1.8 million Mexicans through what was termed “repatriation drives.” Hoover, like Trump, blamed Mexicans for taking working jobs that should be going to U.S. citizens and used the slogan “American jobs for real Americans.”

The mass deportation of Mexicans didn’t stabilize wages and jobs as Hoover promised. Instead, economists believe it worsened the effects of the Great Depression by increasing levels of unemployment and lowering the wages of workers.

In another parallel to Trump, Hoover promised to protect farmers and domestic industries from global competition through tariffs. In 1930, Hoover passed the Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act which increased tariffs by about 20 per cent on a list of 20,000 goods entering the United States — a more focused version of Trump’s proposed 25 per cent tariff on all goods.

The result of the Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act, just like the mass expulsion of Mexicans, didn’t lead to the economic prosperity promised by Hoover on the campaign trail. Instead, it led U.S. citizens losing confidence in Wall Street while other nations like Canada responded with their own tariffs in retaliation.

Due to Hoover’s tariffs United States’ imports decreased by 66 per cent and exports decreased by 61 per cent. Their unemployment exploded from eight per cent in 1930, to 16 per cent in 1931 and 25 per cent in 1933 and 1934.

As a consequence of the tariffs Hoover, along with Sen. Reed Smoot of Utah and Rep. Willis Hawley of Oregon, lost their respective political offices, and the 1932 elections saw the largest political swings in U.S. history when the Democrats, led by Franklin Delano Roosevelt ran on a platform to lower tariffs. Roosevelt would later pass the Reciprocal Trade Agreements Act of 1934 which allowed the President to negotiate tariff reductions on a bilateral basis.

Some people may try to dismiss parallels saying that the United States is completely different than it was in 1928, and Trump is just a smart, strong negotiator. However, it’s important to note that Hoover argued for his path to the Great Depression by saying his policies would restore fairness for workers while in practice these policies hurt them the most.

[theluckycountry]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')ith much of the globe and American public focused exclusively on tariff mania, President Trump as well as Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth unveiled massive news on Monday, which would have normally made a bigger impact in headlines. The Pentagon will soon have its first $1 trillion budget. President Trump said. "Nobody’s seen anything like it. We have to build out military, and we’re very cost-conscious, but the military is something we have to build, and we have to be strong."

[EnergyUnlimited]

Here in Europe fewer and fewer people have any hopes that America will be great again, even in traditionally pro-American Poland.
Trump has declared tariff war (and increasingly a trade war) on most of world and he has no cards in hand.
Xi Jinping has strong cards, Putin does as well and even European Commission has few Jacks but Trump does not.
How he wants to play with no cards?