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THE Electric Vehicle (EV) Thread pt 16

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THE Electric Vehicle (EV) Thread pt 16

Postby theluckycountry » Sat 07 Dec 2024, 21:58:09

Adam begins a lifelong education program

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60 years later...

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How he imagines himself to be

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Re: THE Electric Vehicle (EV) Thread pt 15

Postby AdamB » Sat 07 Dec 2024, 23:06:31

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', '[')b]Adam begins a lifelong education program

Pretty much. Still in it. Won't stop until I retire I imagine.

You just stick to having all the answers Lucky.

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Re: THE Electric Vehicle (EV) Thread pt 15

Postby theluckycountry » Sun 08 Dec 2024, 03:20:56

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Hey Adam I've got an idea? Why don't you post something about Electric cars, this is the EV thread after all...
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Re: THE Electric Vehicle (EV) Thread pt 15

Postby theluckycountry » Sun 08 Dec 2024, 03:56:10

How about this

Global EV Outlook 2024
Trends in electric cars

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')b]Nearly one in five cars sold in 2023 was electric While sales of electric cars are increasing globally, they remain significantly concentrated in just a few major markets. In 2023, just under 60% of new electric car registrations were in the People’s Republic of China


Perfect isn't it! One year old statistics and heavy reliance of the data coming out of a corrupt communist regime. Ahhh, I miss the good ol days when PeakEV was still in it's infancy and the fanBoi kept up a steady stream of mass media dribble.


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Re: THE Electric Vehicle (EV) Thread pt 15

Postby theluckycountry » Sun 08 Dec 2024, 04:16:39

Bimbo influencer (with big Hooters) explains how to charge an EV in Africa.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/WciIaE0yQeE

The better video on Africa
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTQbiNvZqaY

Amazing Chinese EV doing vertical maneuver
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwhnArkZTu8
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Re: THE Electric Vehicle (EV) Thread pt 15

Postby AdamB » Sun 08 Dec 2024, 11:46:16

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', '
')Hey Adam I've got an idea? Why don't you post something about Electric cars, this is the EV thread after all...


Why sure Lucky.
Link to article.


Are EVs or ICE Vehicles More Energy Efficient?
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Gas-powered vehicles consume about 80% of the energy in their fuel, while EVs lose only around...
Gas-powered vehicles consume about 80% of the energy in their fuel, while EVs lose only around 11% of the original energy.

A Yale Climate Connections report says internal combustion engine (ICE) vehicles are “fundamentally inefficient,” primarily due to the vast amount of original energy that is wasted in gas-powered vehicles.

For every $5 gallon of gasoline, only $1 of it is used to move an ICE vehicle along the road. However, the cost of charging an EV is equivalent to $1.41 per gallon in the U.S., making it cheaper to operate than an ICE vehicle.

Gas-powered vehicles waste about 80% of the energy in their fuel. Most of the energy is consumed by the heat produced in the engine. Other energy inefficiencies stem from pumps and fans cooling the engine, mechanical friction within the transmission and drivetrain, and auxiliary electrical components such as heated seats, lights, and audio system. Only about 20% of the original energy ends up going to the wheels.

Gas-Powered Vehicle Energy Loss from 100% of Original Fuel
75-84% of original energy is lost

68-72% engine losses
4-6% parasitic losses
3-5% drivetrain losses
0-2% auxiliary electricity use
​By contrast, energy enters the EV as electricity, which powers the drivetrain. Since EVs do not need to convert one form of energy to another, it is more energy efficient than ICE vehicles. But EVs are not completely efficient, since roughly 11% of the energy is lost. Energy loss is due to the recharging of the battery, and electricity used for cooling and power steering, as well as drivetrain and auxiliary components. About 87-91% of the original energy ultimately goes to the wheels.

Electric Vehicle Energy Loss from 100% of Original Fuel
31-35% of original energy is lost, but 22% is returned through regenerative braking

10% charging loss
18% drivetrain losses
3% power train cooling and steering
0-4% auxiliary electricity use
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Re: THE Electric Vehicle (EV) Thread pt 15

Postby mousepad » Sun 08 Dec 2024, 16:18:27

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AdamB', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mousepad', '
')Funny. And I always thought the one and only thing going for electric cars is their cheap fuel.

Wife's employer provides it for free. However, the deal has gotten popular, as have EVs owned by employees. Folks are now scheduled through a online system, you sign up for a spot, everyone is allowed 4 hours, but then you've got to move to give someone else a chance.

Solar panels on the garage roof certainly contribute to making oer mile costs cheaper than ICE machines. Not everyone has these advantages of course. To each their own.


Exactly. Start advertising and building the ev that are useful. Small, short range commuter cars. Limited range, limited weight, limited size.
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Re: THE Electric Vehicle (EV) Thread pt 15

Postby theluckycountry » Sun 08 Dec 2024, 17:24:17

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mousepad', 'E')xactly. Start advertising and building the ev that are useful. Small, short range commuter cars. Limited range, limited weight, limited size.

They still consume too much oil and coal in their manufacture, you're better off going with a tiny ice car. The Gasoline powered car will be be good for 20 years, the EV half that or less so it's false economics.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A') false economy is an action that saves money initially but results in more money being spent over time. For example, buying cheap appliances that break down more often is a false economy.

The stupid thing is the EV buyer pays a big premium, and has the breakdowns (battery degridation) to contend with. Unless they want to buy one of those Chinese ones that take off like skyrockets :lol:

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I wonder if there was anyone in side that?
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Re: THE Electric Vehicle (EV) Thread pt 15

Postby AdamB » Sun 08 Dec 2024, 19:25:05

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mousepad', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
')Solar panels on the garage roof certainly contribute to making oer mile costs cheaper than ICE machines. Not everyone has these advantages of course. To each their own.

Exactly. Start advertising and building the ev that are useful. Small, short range commuter cars. Limited range, limited weight, limited size.


You've just described the basic Gen I Leaf. You are unfamiliar with the idea that Nissan did exactly what you just said? Certainly I haven't been shy about both the advantages, and disadvantages, of the type of EV you describe, which I've owned for like 3 years now.
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Re: THE Electric Vehicle (EV) Thread pt 15

Postby AdamB » Sun 08 Dec 2024, 19:38:55

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', '
')The stupid thing is the EV buyer pays a big premium, and has the breakdowns (battery degridation) to contend with. Unless they want to buy one of those Chinese ones that take off like skyrockets :lol:

The stupid thing is you. Say what you want to be real, and then pretend it is.

I paid about 21% of MSRP for my Leaf as a used car. Battery SOC at the time was greater than 88% I believe. It'll be 10 years old in a month, current SOC is about 85% at 67k I believe. So for those who probably didn't clear 5th grade math (and mousepad feel free to check mine :) ) that is about 4.46 k/miles per 1% degradation (not degridation as morons might spell it in Australia). So if by the time it gets to 50% SOC (i.e.SOC degrades another 35%), I will only get another 156k miles out of it. Assuming the SOC/mileage relationship stays around there.

Any other "stupid" think you pretend to know about EVs we can clear up for you Lucky? Like 2+2=4, or how to do long division in pencil or something? Don't you have a kangaroo outside in your yard you ask for some of this easy stuff?
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Re: THE Electric Vehicle (EV) Thread pt 15

Postby theluckycountry » Sun 08 Dec 2024, 20:42:52

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Put up or shut up you sad loser :cry:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')esla's increased focus on leasing responds to a decline in both global and U.S. sales. While CEO Elon Musk previously indicated that Tesla would surpass 1.8 million global deliveries, global sales fell by 2.3% in the first three quarters of 2024, with U.S. registrations down by 7.3%

After significant price cuts over the last two years, along with financing options such as a 0.9% APR for 60 months on the Model Y, leasing has emerged as a promising avenue for Tesla. The company also provides three months of free charging and a trial of its Full Self-Driving software.
https://www.cbtnews.com/teslas-leasing- ... s-decline/

Still trying to pull rabbits out of the hat :roll:
When I called PeakEV kubby said it was not so because sales were still booming, it didn't matter then because the rate of increase was collapsing. Of course sales turned when it went negative and subsequently have been in the tank for a Year. Will they come back? Of course not! all the companies that made EV are either bankrupt of pulling out to concentrate on real cars again.

Tesla Rivian and the Chinese ones are being propped up, they should be allowed to collapse like all the others but the world is never that rational. The mobile ipad had it's day in the sun, now it's the beanie baby of transport.

If anyone wants a laugh

Could Buying Rivian Stock Set You Up for Life? https://finance.yahoo.com/news/could-bu ... 00770.html
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Re: THE Electric Vehicle (EV) Thread pt 15

Postby AdamB » Sun 08 Dec 2024, 22:15:01

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', '
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I'll admit, it is a good one.
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Re: THE Electric Vehicle (EV) Thread pt 15

Postby kublikhan » Mon 09 Dec 2024, 01:27:03

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')esla's increased focus on leasing responds to a decline in both global and U.S. sales. While CEO Elon Musk previously indicated that Tesla would surpass 1.8 million global deliveries, global sales fell by 2.3% in the first three quarters of 2024, with U.S. registrations down by 7.3%

After significant price cuts over the last two years, along with financing options such as a 0.9% APR for 60 months on the Model Y, leasing has emerged as a promising avenue for Tesla. The company also provides three months of free charging and a trial of its Full Self-Driving software.
When I called PeakEV kubby said it was not so because sales were still booming, it didn't matter then because the rate of increase was collapsing. Of course sales turned when it went negative and subsequently have been in the tank for a Year. Will they come back? Of course not! all the companies that made EV are either bankrupt of pulling out to concentrate on real cars again.
You point to falling sales at Tesla and then claim it is true for all EV sales. It is not. Global EV sales are growing. It was inevitable that Tesla's share of the EV pie would shrink as other manufacturers join the EV game and take market share from them.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '1')1/22/2024 - EV sales increase while gas car sales continue to decline
* Global sales of electric vehicles increased by 22 percent in the first three quarters of 2024.
* Sales of new gas-powered cars have decreased by approximately 25 percent since 2017.

Many automakers are showing significant sales increases during 2024. In the US, several brands show strong growth, with some manufacturers displaying double-digit increase rates. BMW and Mercedes are significantly increasing their sales, and Hyundai/Kia also shows positive development.

Increased model diversity
A wider range of models from different manufacturers now characterizes the electric vehicle market. Chevrolet recently launched its Equinox, which contributed to the brand's strong growth during the third quarter. Several manufacturers are expanding their electric vehicle lineup to meet increasing demand.
EV sales increase while gas car sales continue to decline

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'E')V research-house Rho Motion reported that more than 1.7 million EVs were sold over the month of October—overtaking the previous record.

Snapshot electric vehicle sales in January - October 2024 vs Jan-Oct 2023:
* Global: 13.3 million, +24%
* China: 8.4 million, +38%
* EU & EFTA & UK: 2.5 million, -3%
* US & Canada: 1.4 million, +9%
* Rest of World: 1.0 million, +27%
Rho Motion: more than 1.7M EVs sold globally in October, overtaking the previous monthly record

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')b]Combustion vehicle sales peaked 2017
Global passenger vehicle sales by drivetrain
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Autos are the world’s largest manufacturing industry and they are going through major change, as the Bloomberg chart confirms:
* Gasoline/diesel cars used to dominate the market but they are now in long-term decline
* Global Internal Combustion Engine (ICE) sales are already down 30% from 2017’s peak

“Developing economies like Thailand, India, Turkey, Brazil and others are all experiencing record sales as more low-cost electric models are targetted at local buyers. Chinese automakers are expanding quickly abroad as they look for new markets for their EVs.”

POORER COUNTRIES ARE NOW ELECTRIFYING
Electrification is also starting to accelerate in poorer countries. In India, for example, 3-wheelers dominate the taxi market as its GDP/capita is just $2,400. As Bloomberg also notes:

“The place where road transport is shifting most rapidly to battery power isn’t Oslo or Shenzhen, but Delhi. E-rickshaws took 54% of India’s 3-wheeler market last year, driven by zippy, longer-range models and running costs that are a fraction of petroleum-powered alternatives. There’s no mystery why e-rickshaws have been taking over. They aren’t just cleaner and quieter, they’re more profitable.” Gasoline/diesel auto sales have moved into long-term decline
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Re: THE Electric Vehicle (EV) Thread pt 15

Postby theluckycountry » Mon 09 Dec 2024, 03:31:18

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No more crap from Deniers thanks, we've had 2 years of that, 2 years of manipulated statistics and lies. The transition is dead! And the nuvo hybrid mania will end too as soon as people realize how useless those cars are when the battery dies. Their Gas engines are under-powered and rely on the electric motors to boost them up hills and during overtaking. Without that they are model-T Fords.

Modern people are so stupid, so gullible, they fall for every techno scam that comes along.
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Re: THE Electric Vehicle (EV) Thread pt 15

Postby AdamB » Mon 09 Dec 2024, 09:34:24

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', '
')No more crap from Deniers thanks, we've had 2 years of that, 2 years of manipulated statistics and lies.

Deniers of...what? That uneducated PM nutters really are as silly as we've been thinking since about the time this site was founded?

As I notice, even after I mention WHY you are the way you are, you just can't help yourself but to keep doing it. You'll notices that Kubli goes through your insipid drivel and demonstrates that DAMN Lucky, you just make stupid statements that are blanket in nature, and easy to pick apart.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', '
')Modern people are so stupid, so gullible, they fall for every techno scam that comes along.

And morons who revel in the uneducated nature of their thinking and logic are....Australians I guess.
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Re: THE Electric Vehicle (EV) Thread pt 15

Postby theluckycountry » Mon 09 Dec 2024, 11:34:01

Gentle readers, what kubby and Adam would have you believe is that there is no problems in the world that can't be fixed with modern technology. That is the root of their belief, their religion. This talk of the expanding rebuildable wind and solar systems across the globe is meant to reassure you that all will be well as Oil supplies on the planet diminish. But we already see the results of this expansion, Germany, the Greatest industrial economy in Europe is contracting, faltering under the cost of it's renewable electricity.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'G')erman companies in the Fortune 500 Europe have announced over 60000 layoffs this year alone. The auto industry is especially hard hit: as discretionary spending falls throughout the continent

Why the lack of demand for autos? You think people don't want them? People simply can't afford them. They are being crippled by ever higher electricity prices in their homes and the cars themselves are more expensive now because the manufacturers have to pass on the costs they incur.

We are seeing terrible inflation, still ongoing, and it's been going on for years. Compare it to the 1970's inflation, that was what began the destruction of the American middleclass and it was all due to oil prices, Energy prices.

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When you take oil and coal and make solar panels and wind turbines with it and then ship them to far flung paddocks and hill tops where you have to spend another fortune cementing frames and huge towers into the Earth you add entire levels of cost increases never incurred before. That is why Germany's electricity is twice as expensive as anyone else's, they went "All In".

The average price of electricity in Germany, in June of 2024, has been 0.3951€ per kilowatt hour.
The average price of electricity in France, in June of 2024, has been 0.2776€ per kilowatt hour.

Why is France cheap?
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'F')rance refuses to pay up for failing to meet renewable energy targets
In 2009, the government pledged to achieve a share of 23% renewables (wind, solar, hydro) in its gross final energy consumption by 2020. But it only reached 20.7% in 2022.

Do your own research and you'll quickly see that any nation that went full steam ahead implementing so called renewable power is now screwed to the wall!

As of 2024, the cost of electricity in Japan is approximately around 0.21 US dollars per kilowatt-hour
that's cheaper than France. It's rebuildable solar and wind component was just 12% in 2023 and not much more now, 70% is oil coal and Gas. https://www.isep.or.jp/en/1529/
The more rebuildables they add, the higher the price will go until they price themselves out of world markets. I doubt that will happen though, the Japanese are not Stupid. They don't even allow mass immigration!

Why the insane push for this crap? It's just an exercise in grasping at straws really. They see that in the future they will lose access to cheap fossil fuels and are desperately trying to get ahead of the game by paying for the burning of those fuels now to make electricity in the future. The trouble is it costs a hell of a lot more, and like the EVs, the systems will break down long before they have paid for themselves compared to conventional systems like Gas and coal fired plants.

At best an EV will last say 12 years, then it's junk. That's just around the age a conventional vehicle starts needing some extra ongoing maintenance, water pump replacement perhaps, alternators, aircon systems. But with that maintenance the car will keep running for another decade, or even two if used lightly! Hell my ice has 145,000 km on it, was built in 2008 and has never needed a repair. I just give it regular oil changes and the transmission oil at 120,000. That's how it's supposed to be. Not this insanity of buying a new car every 4 or 8 years. If you're doing that as an average householder you're throwing money in the trash can. But when an entire nation does that, like with solar and wind, everyone is punished, not just a minority of overly optimistic pen pushers.

This forum was created (long before I arrived) to discuss the consequences of peakOil and the steps needed to mitigate it. But it's morphed by and large into a marketing platform for Bullshit non-solutions. The basic premise being "We can continue to live our profligate 20th century lifestyles driving ever faster cars to ever bigger shopping malls." That's the false promise behind the EV and solar and wind power on a massive scale. Well it's clearly failing, but the Shills here will point to anything other than their sacred technologies to apportion blame. I won't discuss the issues with them anymore, it's pointless. It's like inviting Jehovah Witnesses into you living room, bad idea!

The future is simply less energy for us to waste as we do now and all this Eco-madness is simply accelerating that process. In 40 years and more the world will be covered in broken solar panels and windmills with no cheap energy to replace them. Like suburban sprawl itself, a dead end experiment of the oil age.

This is a picture of a rabbit hutch. No food is grown here, water is pumped in, nowhere to put waste, it's trucked out and pumped out. everyday massive amounts of energy must be employed to bring everything in and take all the waste out. In the future it will be a ghost town, nothing can save it, Nothing.

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Re: THE Electric Vehicle (EV) Thread pt 15

Postby AdamB » Mon 09 Dec 2024, 15:22:15

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', 'G')entle readers, what kubby and Adam would have you believe is that there is no problems in the world that can't be fixed with modern technology.

See what I mean? You can't think...so make up nonsense like this because as best I can tell neither myself nor Kub have ever made such a claim, and then you fight the strawman. Because you aren't equipped to do anything else.

It is what people who can't think for themselves do. What I HAVE said before is still apropos.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AdamB', '
')And morons who revel in the uneducated nature of their thinking and logic are....Australians I guess.
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Re: THE Electric Vehicle (EV) Thread pt 15

Postby theluckycountry » Tue 10 Dec 2024, 04:48:36

• Almost half the time you visit the cinema, you don’t get to see the film.
• 40% of your visits to the petrol station end with no fuel.
• Your Premier League season ticket is only valid for 60% of matches.

This is what it's like trying to find an EV charger that isn't broken, it's a disaster, but not an unexpected one given that the bubble has popped and companies are no longer interested in either A/ building EV B/ maintaining them.


• USA: A fifth of EV drivers (20%) report having arrived at an EV charge point and not managing to charge their car. Even the US transport secretary Pete Buttigieg admits he struggles to find reliable chargers for his EV. A recent exposé by the Wall Street Journal found 40% of chargers in the Los Angeles area were non-functioning.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '') France: EV drivers in France complain of not being able to find functioning chargers, especially on motorways, with manufacturers refusing to bid for government tenders to simplify the charging network.

Stats like this are disastrous. Figures and percentages can be a little sterile – but once you reframe the issue, the depth of the problem becomes clear. Imagine using another service with only a 60% hit rate (as per the WSJ story):
https://www.switch-ev.com/blog/why-are- ... e-fix-this

There is lots of chatter about how to fix this disaster but it's just chatter from websites, no doubt staffed by EVidiots that want to see their cars back on the highways.

What Makes EV Charging Stations Fail?
https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a4530 ... -problems/
A valid question considering our fridges and HW systems run for decades with no problem :lol:
But really, the question is WHY ARE THEY NOT BEING REPAIRED!

Now the above stories are a little out of date, a year about. But all that's changed is that the media has gone mostly silent on the debacle. Why flog a dead horse?

Dec 7, 2024 Burlingame EV chargers broken for months
Continued breakdown causing issues for customers, businesses https://www.smdailyjournal.com/news/loc ... c7e23.html
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Re: THE Electric Vehicle (EV) Thread pt 15

Postby theluckycountry » Tue 10 Dec 2024, 04:52:12

HEY! But what about the Netherlands. They have hundreds of thousands of reliable chargers

The Netherlands must have installed japanese units because they are working fine!
Dutch grid operator wants to stop electric car charging during peak hours
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '')Particularly in the evening peak, between 4pm and 9pm, and on sunny spring and summer days, the grid is bursting at the seams,” Bogers said in a press release. It’s during these hours when most people come home from work, put their cars on charge and use a variety of electrical appliances, which puts pressure on the power grid and increases the risk of power outages for thousands of households.
https://www.iamexpat.nl/expat-info/dutc ... peak-hours

Which just goes to prove that if you throw enough money at something you can accomplish it, whether it's a smart idea or not. But where did all that money come from?

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he Netherlands has had steady natural gas resources since 1959, when a wellspring was discovered. Currently the Netherlands accounts for more than 25% of all natural gas reserves in the European Union. Over the following decades, the sale of natural gas generated a significant rise in revenue for the Netherlands.

Ahhhh. Fossil fuel powered, Say no more.
We're 17 years past the peak now and the 3rd World is going hungry and dark. We'll be next, we're well on the way in fact.
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Re: THE Electric Vehicle (EV) Thread pt 15

Postby AdamB » Tue 10 Dec 2024, 10:28:59

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', '') Almost half the time you visit the cinema, you don’t get to see the film.
• 40% of your visits to the petrol station end with no fuel.
• Your Premier League season ticket is only valid for 60% of matches.


Wow. While I realized that Australia had uneducated hoebunkles like you in it, holding your country back from the most basic Second World status, I didn't realize you were subject to such idecencies.

You have my condolences.
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