[AdamB]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', 'A')dam when his wife forgets to put the Leaf on charge overnight.

[AdamB]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', 'A')dam, I want you to do something for me. Every time you take a leaf out for a drive, and you're checking the range left on the gauge, Think of me.

[theluckycountry]

Like a gentle breeze down the highway, theluckycountry, the luckycountry
I'm getting low on charge, best ease off the throttle, the luckycountry

[AdamB]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', 'L')ike a gentle breeze down the highway, theluckycountry, the luckycountry
I'm getting low on charge, best ease off the throttle, the luckycountry

[theluckycountry]

"We're Just Giving Them Away": EV Leases Have Plunged To As Low As $20 Per Month

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '.')..This has driven more EV buyers to opt for leases, which made up 32% of EV transactions in Q1, up from 11% a year ago, per Cox Automotive. EV leases are $88 cheaper per month on average compared to new electric vehicle loans.

Bloomberg writes that lease payments for electric vehicles have become more affordable due to cooling demand, automaker incentives, and changes in the $7,500 federal tax credit, which now often favors leasing over buying. The Inflation Reduction Act of 2022 limited tax breaks for EV purchases, so many models don’t qualify, but a loophole allows leased EVs to qualify as commercial vehicles. This lets automakers apply the tax credit to lease deals, reducing monthly payments.

In some areas, it has led to stunning offers. In Colorado, some 2025 Nissan Leaf leases were offered for as low as $20 a month in July, thanks to EV tax credits and state incentives, the article notes.

[AdamB]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', '[')b]"We're Just Giving Them Away": EV Leases Have Plunged To As Low As $20 Per Month

[theluckycountry]

EV Semi Prices Need To Fall 30-50% To Compete With Diesel, A New Study Says

Well we didn't need a study to figure that one out! The mass of batteries needed to generate 700HP and drag a 30 ton load up and down the hills (Ground is never flat) is huge. The cost mind-boggling. And naturally, after 8 years the pack is rooted and needs replacing. The big electric motor too no doubt. Lipos HATE being fast charged, it really diminishes their life. The also hate being charged beyond roughly 80%, for the same reason.

It's always a tradeoff, you can make batteries that can handle one of these parameters but it will have a lower capacity etc. What they use now is the best compromise. The same applies to solar panels. People think that just because they can makes ones that have a higher efficiency we will all get those but the Hi-efficiency ones come at a cost, a much higher price.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
')We already know that emission free or EV trucking isn't a cost efficient endeavor, which is why many companies like Pepsi have done token purchases of a couple of EV semis, but are still using ICE 18 wheelers to get product to shelves.

Today a new article from Reuters lays out the numbers behind why emission free trucking remains a fallacy: emissions-free trucks need to drop in price by up to 50% to compete with diesel models, according to a McKinsey study.

Currently, less than 2% of the EU's heavy freight vehicles are electric or hydrogen-powered, but this must rise to 40% of new sales by 2030 to meet EU climate goals. Electric trucks cost 2.5-3 times more to produce than diesel ones, and logistics companies are reluctant to bear the higher costs, making this target challenging, the report says.

[theluckycountry]

Just to recap, I was never an EV Hater, though I am now since the world's governments and media have engaged in a propaganda operation of momentous proportions to force as many people as possible into buying these cars and trucks. I believe in free markets, in the survival of the fittest and all that. In people and companies' being able make the choices that best suit their own personal profits and lifestyles.

If the EV's were actually "Green" as they have been portrayed in the media I would even have disregarded the Free Choice opinions I hold, a needed sacrifice for the sake of a healthier World. But that was all a lie, the EV burns mountains of coal and oil, just not where you drive it typically. It's burnt far away at a power station and in the mines and factories where it originated. That's why I doggedly post up these stories, which are all verifiable, because hardly anyone discusses the failures of the Green transition. It's like most human failures, people just want to push it under the rug and move on. The problem inherent in that happy heart psychology is that when the next big con job comes along you'll fall right into it because you've learnt nothing from the previous ones.

People who forget or ignore history are doomed to repeat it.

[AdamB]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', '[')b]EV Semi Prices Need To Fall 30-50% To Compete With Diesel, A New Study Says

Well we didn't need a study to figure that one out!

[theluckycountry]

No the EV isn't going away, it's just going the way of the toaster and kettle.

In Bid For Global Dominance, Beijing Builds EV Factories In Africa
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
')China has started to build factories across Africa to manufacture electric vehicles, a strategy market analysts say will likely flood the world with cheap EVs and allow Chinese companies to dominate the global automobile industry far into the future.

One study shows Beijing has given China’s EV manufacturers at least $231 billion in state aid over 15 years, from 2009 until the end of 2023.

The automobile sector in mainland China has been the largest in the world measured by unit production since 2008, said JATO Dynamics, a global leader in automotive data, analysis, and intelligence.

[AdamB]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', 'N')o the EV isn't going away, it's just going the way of the toaster and kettle.

[theluckycountry]

Where's kub? Adam will getting lonely. Perhaps he's off researching that new wave-power scheme I posted up. That's too good an offer for a techno-Dreamer to pass up.

[theluckycountry]

As an aside, this Chinee takeover of the markets is a real thing, they have a lot of shitty motorcycles on the market now. Not as bad as those crap Harleys from America but bad and the Japanese are starting to cut corners to maintain market share. Bikes made in the decade of the 2010's have a much better build quality to the new offerings, same with Japanese cars! A smart person would consider this and try and stay with the better units for as long as they can. 2015~2020 bikes and cars can be readily found with low mileages and are a good buy, especially the luxury models.

[AdamB]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', 'W')here's kub?

[AdamB]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', 'A')s an aside, this Chinee takeover of the markets is a real thing, .......

[theluckycountry]

EV sales decline globally with consumer scepticism and falling demand leaving manufacturers vulnerable. Sales of EVs in Europe, once a prime market, are falling.

EV sector crisis as Chinese firms are trapped between lack of demand and government tax penalties


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')September 16, 2024
Thailand
Thai EV crisis: Chinese firms struggle with overproduction and government tax penalties threat amid falling global demand. With rising household debt and regulatory hurdles, manufacturers face tough choices—either ramp up production at a loss or repay hefty subsidies and waived import taxes on EV cars coming from China.

Thailand’s brave new EV manufacturing world is in crisis. The sector, which has seen Chinese firms invest billions, is now suffering a market glut as demand for EV cars, both in Thailand and across the world except for China, falls. This year has seen the industry tilt decisively towards HEV or hybrid vehicles. At this time, it is being reported that Chinese firms in Thailand are holding urgent talks with the Chinese Embassy in Bangkok. The firms are bound under Thailand’s 3.0 and 3.5 incentive schemes to ramp up production to match the number of imported vehicles here. However, unable to find export markets for the cars, they are left with a vast dilemma: either manufacture cars that no one wants or pay back subsidies and import tax waivers with penalties on each imported car to the Thai government. Something has to give either on one side or the other.

[mousepad]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
')Germany suffers ‘spectacular’ 70pc drop in electric car sales

[AdamB]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mousepad', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
')Funny. Wasn't it just a few years ago that the fanbois (and university papers) predicted ev being at exponential escape velocity?

[theluckycountry]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mousepad', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
')Germany suffers ‘spectacular’ 70pc drop in electric car sales

[theluckycountry]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mousepad', '
')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
')Meanwhile, Italy urged the EU to pause its “absurd” plans to ban petrol cars by 2035 amid concerns the policy risks triggering the automotive industry’s collapse.