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THE Nuclear Power Thread pt 10 (merged)

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Unread postby theluckycountry » Fri 18 Aug 2023, 03:39:45

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Tanada', '
')I firmly disagree with this viewpoint. When Nuclear came in with Gen I prototype stations it was more expensive than fossil fuels, but the first few Gen II plants came in with as cheap or cheaper than coal electricity. Then the Lobbyists got to work and the avalanche of new "Safety measures" started getting passed...


Well I for one think reactor design could use even more regulation. Chernobyl and Fukushima are unmitigated disasters, still! Little is said in the western press these days, and much of what happened in Japan was hushed up but the fact is there are whole regions that are uninhabitable and forests blanketed in plutonium still. Now the Japanese want to dump millions of tons of highly radioactive water into the ocean simply because they have no other solution. Which reactor will be next?
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Unread postby Tanada » Fri 18 Aug 2023, 07:26:10

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Tanada', '
')I firmly disagree with this viewpoint. When Nuclear came in with Gen I prototype stations it was more expensive than fossil fuels, but the first few Gen II plants came in with as cheap or cheaper than coal electricity. Then the Lobbyists got to work and the avalanche of new "Safety measures" started getting passed...


Well I for one think reactor design could use even more regulation. Chernobyl and Fukushima are unmitigated disasters, still! Little is said in the western press these days, and much of what happened in Japan was hushed up but the fact is there are whole regions that are uninhabitable and forests blanketed in plutonium still. Now the Japanese want to dump millions of tons of highly radioactive water into the ocean simply because they have no other solution. Which reactor will be next?


#1 the RBMK Chernobyl design was created more than fifty years ago and was modified to avoid a repeat accident more than 30 years ago. 85 percent of the "Chernobyl exclusion zone" is no more radioactive than the mountains of Australia or New Zealand and pretending it is deadly dangerous is ignorance on a level rarely paralleled in human history.

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#2 the Fukishima accident was because of a massive tsunami and it wasn't the reactors that failed, it was the common every day diesel generators that were swamped in tsunamis water that failed. Of the six reactors on site three melted down because of the generator problem and three were undamaged except for the tsunami effects which destroyed the infrastructure around them. There was no radioactive plume of plutonium fallout like some in the media claimed early on and the remediation of the soil that was actually contaminated was completed several years ago. The main reason part of the land remains vacant is chemical contamination caused by the tsunami destroying industrial sites, not nuclear fallout.

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#3 The water stored at Fukushima is so weakly radioactive you could drink the stuff for 80 years and never suffer any detectable illness from it. Chinese media has made a huge deal out of this water despite the fact that their own coal power plants are emitting a thousand times more radiations every day in the form of contaminated fly ash into the air their own people breathe. The whole issue is nothing but a propaganda tactic to distract people from their own pollution which is vastly worse. Radiation from flyash is below danger levels but is vastly higher than the radiation in the "wastewater" being discharged, you can not have it both ways. If you are going to scream about a non issue screaming about the minor one while ignoring the major one is the height of hypocrisy.

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Unread postby theluckycountry » Fri 18 Aug 2023, 14:40:51

Wow, what can I say. Go nuclear Go.
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Unread postby careinke » Fri 18 Aug 2023, 23:30:40

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', 'W')ow, what can I say. Go nuclear Go.


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Re: THE Nuclear Power Thread pt 10 (merged)

Unread postby theluckycountry » Sat 19 Aug 2023, 05:56:01

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('careinke', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', 'W')ow, what can I say. Go nuclear Go.


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Unread postby Tanada » Sat 19 Aug 2023, 19:42:31

Which part of "The rate of genetic defects remains unchanged" is unclear?

There have always been unfortunates who lose the genetic lottery and unless we get a great deal better at genetic engineering there always will be unfortunate persons who lose that particular situation.

On the other hand the "Children of Love Canal" are a real verified spike in genetic mutations from upstate NY where chemical waste was improperly buried and leaked into the ground water supply poisoning thousands of Americans.

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Unread postby theluckycountry » Mon 21 Aug 2023, 05:11:02

The 2005 a UN report found that fewer than 50 people died as a direct result of the Chernobyl accident, and estimated 4000 could die from radiation exposure in total. If you want to feel good about Chernobyl or Fukushima then reading UN reports is the way to go. Better yet read reports from TEPCO, the Japanese power utility.

Personally I don't care either way as we have no nuclear plants down here that can blow their tops. We do make quite a bit selling the Uranium to the nations up in the northern hemisphere though, so if I was asked to vote on the issue, so to speak, I'd say Hell Yeah, send that stuff North.

Fukushima Daiichi Accident
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '(')Updated January 2023)
There have been no deaths or cases of radiation sickness from the nuclear accident, but over 100,000 people were evacuated from their homes as a preventative measure. Government nervousness has delayed the return of many.

https://world-nuclear.org/information-l ... ident.aspx

Phew, that's good news. The https://world-nuclear.org/ site has some excellent articles on it, all positive and upbeat too :)
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Unread postby Tanada » Fri 15 Sep 2023, 03:47:22

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')b]G&Ts Collaborate on First Recommissioned Nuclear Plant in U.S. History
Commissioned in 1970, the mothballed Palisades Nuclear Power Plant in Covert, Michigan, could be restarted to provide electricity for two G&Ts by late 2025.

Two generation cooperatives serving members in Michigan, Indiana and southeastern Illinois plan to meet future demand for electricity with the restart of a nuclear power plant that suspended operations last year.

The Palisades Nuclear Power Plant, located on the southeastern shore of Lake Michigan, could become the country’s first utility-scale nuclear plant recommissioned to help meet demand for zero-emission electricity.

“The restart of Palisades offers a practical, long-term solution to electric reliability in our state and aligns with Michigan’s ambitious goals to reduce carbon emissions,” said Eric Baker, CEO of Wolverine Power.

The Cadillac, Michigan-based G&T and Hoosier Energy, headquartered in Bloomington, Indiana, have contracted with Holtec International for the total output from the 800-megawatt plant. Investor owners of the plant are seeking financing and regulatory approval to refuel and recommission the plant with a goal of resuming its operations by late 2025.

“The Palisades Nuclear Power Plant power purchase agreement is an ideal fit for Hoosier Energy’s long-range resource plan priorities,” said Donna Walker, Hoosier Energy’s president and CEO.

Walker added that the agreement with Holtec will provide several benefits to distribution co-op members, including baseload reliability and resource adequacy. It will also help both G&Ts diversify their generation portfolios, stabilize rates and predict future costs with an environmentally sustainable power source.

Palisades Nuclear Power Plant operated between 1970 through 2022, and plant facilities were constantly updated to meet regulatory requirements and modern operational standards.

Restoration of the plant’s operations will also add more than 600 high-paying jobs to the southwestern Michigan economy.

“The repowering of Palisades ensures Michigan has sufficient energy to meet future demand and mitigate the impact of climate change,” said Kelly Trice, president of Holtec Nuclear Generation and Decommissioning.

Holtec, based in Jupiter, Florida, maintains and services more than 100 nuclear power plants worldwide. The company also provides heat exchangers and other components essential to power plant operations, and before purchasing Palisades last year, began managing its decommissioning when power production was suspended in May 2022.

Once plant acquisition was completed last December, Holtec began working toward a restart, and the power purchase agreements are a significant milestone toward reopening the plant.

Trice has cited the benefits of local tax base expansion and potential regional economic growth as benefits of recommissioning in presentations to state elected officials. Holtec has also held several public meetings to keep local consumers informed of the plans to restart the plant.

Construction of the 432-acre Palisades site began in 1967 and was completed three years later. Between 1970 and 2022, the plant consistently achieved the Nuclear Regulatory Commission’s highest safety ratings while producing record-breaking production goals, and it was recognized by the industry for its high performance.

Beyond local permanent jobs, plant operations require an additional 1,000 specialty workers every 18 months for scheduled refueling and maintenance. Its shutdown in 2022 led to the loss of more than 700 jobs and over $200 million in economic activity in three Michigan counties. Overall tax benefits lost since the plant’s closure in Michigan’s Van Buren County are estimated to top $10 million annually.

The power purchase agreements commit Wolverine to take the bulk of the plant’s energy production after its restart, with Hoosier Energy receiving the balance.

“This is a tremendous win for electric cooperatives and demonstrates our ability to collaborate and innovate for our members and the hundreds of thousands of member-consumers we serve,” said Hoosier Energy’s Walker.

Once the plant is recommissioned, 23 distribution co-ops serving more than 1 million homes in 64 Midwestern counties will have access to more reliable and sustainable baseload electricity.

“Palisades plays a vital role in Michigan’s energy landscape, particularly since our state depends on power imports up to 88% of the time,” said Wolverine’s Baker. “In the short term, restarting the plant before impending coal plant retirements is essential to maintaining electric reliability. Looking ahead, Palisades offers one long-term solution to provide price stability, reliability and a path towards decarbonization.”


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Unread postby Tanada » Fri 20 Oct 2023, 03:17:11

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')b]EU countries break deadlock on power market subsidies

LUXEMBOURG, Oct 17 (Reuters) - European Union countries' energy ministers struck a deal to reform power market subsidies, Spain's energy minister said on Tuesday, defusing a stand-off between France and Germany over the future competitiveness of industrial sectors.

The European Commission proposed changes to the EU's electricity market in March after EU power prices soared to record levels last year as Russian gas supplies were cut following the invasion of Ukraine.

The new rules seek to shift to longer term, fixed-price contracts to protect consumers from volatile energy markets. They were also aimed at improving the investment climate for new renewable energy projects and in turn improve the bloc's energy security.

The deal struck on Tuesday focused on a section of the law spelling out how state aid can be used to support power projects. Talks had stalled for months because of concerns, especially from Germany, that the scheme could distort competition and favour France, which has the world's second biggest nuclear fleet after the U.S.

"It should help protect consumers against a future emergency and future crises. The most significant factor is that there was almost unanimity," Spain's Energy Minister Teresa Ribera told reporters. Only Hungary abstained.

A compromise proposal by Spain, which holds the EU's rotating presidency and chaired Tuesday's meeting, said future state aid for new renewable and nuclear power plants must take the form of "contracts for difference" subsidies based on a set price for energy.

These contracts guarantee a minimum price for energy produced but also allows governments to recover excess revenues if prices jump past a set threshold.

However, a preamble was added to the law that said governments can use such contracts for existing power plants when significant investments are made in the plant to expand its capacity or extend its life.

The preamble was a concession to France which wanted to be able to apply the new rules to its existing nuclear plants, which produce 70% of its electricity.

But in a nod to Germany, the proposals said the subsidies must be designed so that use of revenues raised, such as support for local industries, does not distort competition or trade in the EU.

Berlin had feared that France's nuclear fleet would allow the country to offer fixed-price power contracts to its ageing nuclear energy fleet - then spend revenues generated by these government-backed contracts on subsidising industries.

"Despite great stress, we managed to do it together," Germany's environment and economy minister Robert Habeck said in a statement.

"With the new electricity market design ... consumers in particular will benefit from the cheap production costs of non-fossil fuel energies. This is also important to ensure the transition to competitive prices in Europe."

Germany, Europe's biggest economy, is on the edge of a recession after losing access to the ample supply of cheap Russian gas it received before Moscow invaded Ukraine last year.

"The situation for European consumers was pretty delicate because ... as a whole the gas price dictated the price of electricity without taking into account real production costs," the French presidency said.

The agreement struck on Tuesday represents a "major victory for France", it added, as its citizens to benefit from the competitive costs stemming from nuclear power.

Reporting by Julia Payne, Kate Abnett, Benjamin Mallet in Paris and Markus Wacket in Frankfurt; editing by Barbara Lewis, Silvia Aloisi and David Gregorio


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Unread postby theluckycountry » Thu 09 Nov 2023, 14:35:45

Switzerland To Keep Nuclear Plants Operating For Longer Than Planned

I didn't even know they had any?
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
')Nov 07, 2023, Switzerland’s nuclear power plant operators plan to keep the facilities operational for longer than initially planned, spokespeople for the large Swiss utilities Axpo Holding and Alpiq Holding told Bloomberg on Tuesday.

Switzerland has four nuclear reactors, which generate up to 40% of its electricity, according to the World Nuclear Association. The Swiss voted in a 2017 referendum to phase out nuclear power but Switzerland has not set a deadline for this and it’s up to operators to decide how long they could operate the plants safely. Now the energy crisis and concerns about the reliability of electricity supply in the country has prompted utilities to look to extend the lives of the reactors as long as the extension of the operations is found to be safe.

Axpo Holding and Alpiq Holding have increased the planned lifespan for their nuclear power plants to 60 years from a previous target of 50 years, which means they could be in operation until around 2040, according to the spokespeople who spoke to Bloomberg. Alpiq is also considering an extension to as many as 80 years and is studying the possible impacts of such an extension on safety, investments, and profitability, the Alpiq spokesperson told Bloomberg.

Several countries in Europe also plan to keep nuclear power use for longer, including France, a large nuclear power generating country. But Germany, Europe’s largest economy, earlier this year ditched nuclear energy after taking its last three nuclear power plants offline in April, ending more than six decades of commercial nuclear energy use.

Switzerland, for its part, has been trying to cope with last year’s energy crisis. The country has recently repealed an ordinance from 2022 allowing drawdowns from its strategic fuel stockpiles after supply of petroleum products has now normalized. Last year, Switzerland started to release oil from its emergency reserves as it lowered the obligatory levels of petroleum stocks by 6.5% due to low water levels on the Rhine River and chaos in railway transportation.
https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News ... anned.html

I remember reading a comment once, by James Howard Kunstler? That if the world wanted to keep the lights on it would have to go nuclear. Here, I found it.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'S')traight Talk with James Howard Kunstler: “The world is going to get rounder and bigger again” November 17, 2010
Q3. If you were President and had free reign, what would be your energy plan?

JHK:
I would commence a public debate on whether we go forward with a nuclear power program, to weigh the hazards involved — but, frankly, there may be no other ways to keep the lights on in a decade or so. It may turn out that we are too short of capital to carry out such a program, or our society may be too disorderly in the years ahead to run it, or we may decide the hazards are not worth it, but the discussion must start now.
https://www.resilience.org/stories/2010 ... ger-again/

The disturbing part of this story though is that there are no plans to build new plants, just push the old ones well beyond their design life. As I have noted before, this is driven by the basic economics of nuclear plant decommissioning. It is Very expensive to shutdown and clean up, whereas is you just continue to operate a plant you continue to make income. Nothing is going according to the original plans anymore, it's all just ad-hoc solutions.
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Unread postby theluckycountry » Tue 19 Dec 2023, 07:01:13

Rolls-Royce in talks to build mini-nukes in Ukraine https://www.zerohedge.com/political/rol ... ts-ukraine
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Armenia-Russia Sign Key Deal For Metsamor Nuclear Plant Modernization https://www.zerohedge.com/energy/armeni ... ernization

The renovations will be carried out by Rustatom Service JSC, a subsidiary of Russia's state nuclear energy company Rosatom, and will cost the Armenian government $65 million.
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Re: THE Nuclear Power Thread pt 10 (merged)

Unread postby theluckycountry » Wed 27 Mar 2024, 15:09:01

Well it was inevitable really, economics. Coal may be cheap but shipping mega tons of it across the ocean isn't, at least not at high oil prices. Now they can leave Australia alone to burn its coal in peace because our carbon offsets from selling Uranium will more than make up for it :wink:

Thailand And Philippines "Charging Ahead" With Plans To Embrace Nuclear Power

Small modular reactors seen as solution to meet energy demand, promote safety
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
')BANGKOK/MANILA -- Thailand and the Philippines are charging ahead with plans to start nuclear reactors by the next decade as momentum grows in Southeast Asia toward the region's first operational power plant.

Thailand looks to unveil in September a national energy plan through 2037 expected to incorporate small modular reactors (SMRs). The government will look into potential sites for the reactors, which would account for 70 megawatts worth of capacity, officials say.

The country has talked about installing nuclear power since the 2000s, but the 2011 meltdowns at Japan's Fukushima Daiichi plant led those endeavors to be shelved. The development of SMRs reignited Bangkok's interest in nuclear power.

SMRs generate less power than conventional reactors, but are considered safer. The U.S., the U.K. and China are among countries racing to develop them. Washington said in November 2022 it would provide technological support for SMRs to Thailand's government, then led by Prime Minister Prayuth Chan-ocha.
https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Energy ... 3&si=79447

Edit: I'm not a fan of talking about futuristic plans but somethings are a given. People might be afraid of nuclear but I'll wager they are more afraid of living in the dark.
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Unread postby theluckycountry » Fri 29 Mar 2024, 18:01:12

In Historic Reversal, US To Restart A Shut Down Nuclear Power Plant For The First Time Ever https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/histo ... -time-ever
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Unread postby theluckycountry » Tue 06 Aug 2024, 01:29:52

jato0072 put up a good link to podcasts over on the Sri Lanka thread, Here is one off it

Who Killed Nuclear Energy?
https://www.decouplemedia.org/podcast/e ... ear-energy
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Unread postby theluckycountry » Sat 16 Nov 2024, 23:57:40

Let me get this straight, the US can't even supply all it's own enriched Uranium?
It's not just roads and bridges, it's... Everything it seems.

Russia Takes Aim at US Nuclear Power by Throttling Uranium
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')n news that will act as a headwind for the U.S.'s re-emerging nuclear industry, it was reported last week that Russia is temporarily restricting enriched uranium exports to the U.S., raising supply concerns for reactors that produce nearly 20% of the nation's electricity. Russia provided no details or timeline for its uranium export restrictions in a Friday Telegram statement, though utilities' advance purchasing likely mitigates immediate effects.

Amid global backlash over its war in Ukraine, Russia continues leveraging energy as a geopolitical tool, also cutting gas supplies to Austria—ending a 60-year agreement that fulfills 80% of its demand—citing a legal dispute. Bloomberg noted that Russia's move targets a key U.S. vulnerability in the nuclear fuel cycle, as it controls nearly half of global uranium enrichment capacity and supplied over a quarter of U.S. enriched fuel last year. Chris Gadomski, head nuclear analyst for BloombergNEF commented: “We don’t have enough enriched uranium here. They should have been stockpiling enriched uranium in anticipation of this happening.”
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... f=6uww027M

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'R')ussia says the restrictions respond to a U.S. ban on Russian enriched uranium, signed by President Biden in May but allowing shipments until 2028 through waivers.

The U.S. is banning itself back into the stoneage it seems.

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$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')b]Russia Uses Fertilizer Exports To Evade Natural Gas ...
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6 Aug 2024 — Russia is converting its massive amounts of cheap natural gas into fertilizer stock. It is funding its war effort through these fertilizer sales.

Well at least the food is still secure.
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$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', 'L')et me get this straight, the US can't even supply all it's own enriched Uranium?
It's not just roads and bridges, it's... Everything it seems.

Russia Takes Aim at US Nuclear Power by Throttling Uranium
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')n news that will act as a headwind for the U.S.'s re-emerging nuclear industry, it was reported last week that Russia is temporarily restricting enriched uranium exports to the U.S., raising supply concerns for reactors that produce nearly 20% of the nation's electricity. Russia provided no details or timeline for its uranium export restrictions in a Friday Telegram statement, though utilities' advance purchasing likely mitigates immediate effects.

Amid global backlash over its war in Ukraine, Russia continues leveraging energy as a geopolitical tool, also cutting gas supplies to Austria—ending a 60-year agreement that fulfills 80% of its demand—citing a legal dispute. Bloomberg noted that Russia's move targets a key U.S. vulnerability in the nuclear fuel cycle, as it controls nearly half of global uranium enrichment capacity and supplied over a quarter of U.S. enriched fuel last year. Chris Gadomski, head nuclear analyst for BloombergNEF commented: “We don’t have enough enriched uranium here. They should have been stockpiling enriched uranium in anticipation of this happening.”
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... f=6uww027M

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'R')ussia says the restrictions respond to a U.S. ban on Russian enriched uranium, signed by President Biden in May but allowing shipments until 2028 through waivers.

The U.S. is banning itself back into the stoneage it seems.

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$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')ccording to the agency's data, the proportion of fertilizers imported from Russia has grown to 17.1% from a year ago when the fraction stood at 9.7% of all fertilizers imported into the United States. The current figures show that Russia is now second to Canada, which is the leading exporter of fertilizers to America. 20 May 2024

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')b]Russia Uses Fertilizer Exports To Evade Natural Gas ...
Forbes https://www.forbes.com › Business › Energy
6 Aug 2024 — Russia is converting its massive amounts of cheap natural gas into fertilizer stock. It is funding its war effort through these fertilizer sales.

Well at least the food is still secure.

Two reasons not to panic here. President Elect Trump has already said that his first move in office will be to rescind most Biden executive orders so this one will most likely go bye-bye within 90 days of when the article was published. Second, while it sounds scary to say that "a quarter of the enrichment demand will be at risk" the truth is by simply delaying the refueling cycle three months at the plants most able to handle that delay in outage the gap will disappear. For an example of how this works the Germans two years ago decided to keep their last three plants operating an extra 6 months without refueling. While this can lead to issues like fuel rods swelling from increased vapor pressure due to extended operation with modern fuel rods rarely actually have that problem. In fact modern fuel is often kept in a reactor core for six full years of operation compared to the three years that was typical in 1984.

This change evolved over time as fuel manufacturers got better at making more durable fuel rods and by increasing enrichment from a typical 3.2 percent U-235 in 1984 to as much as 5.5 percent enrichment today. By increasing the length of fuel cycles between outages for refueling the utilities generate power for a greater percentage of the plants license period and therefore earn more money selling power.
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Re: THE Nuclear Power Thread pt 10 (merged)

Unread postby Tanada » Sun 17 Nov 2024, 16:03:38

For the second time in modern events a mothballed Nuclear power reactor is being restarted as a low cost power supply. First was Calvert Cliffs in Michigan which is planned to return to operation in 2025. Now Microsoft is contracting for TMI Unit 1 which was mothballed five years ago to power back up as a "Green" energy supply after they ran into the harsh limits to Solar and Wind reliability for their operations.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')b]Three Mile Island is reopening and selling its power to Microsoft | CNN Business

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Three Mile Island, the site of worst nuclear disaster in the United States, is reopening and will exclusively sell the power to Microsoft as the company searches for energy sources to fuel its AI ambitions.

Constellation Energy announced Friday that its Unit 1 reactor, which closed five years ago, is expected to be revived in 2028, dependent on Nuclear Regulatory Commission approval. Microsoft will purchase the carbon-free energy produced from it to power its data centers to support artificial intelligence.

Financial terms of the 20-year agreement, which Constellation called its largest ever, weren’t disclosed.

“Powering industries critical to our nation’s global economic and technological competitiveness, including data centers, requires an abundance of energy that is carbon-free and reliable every hour of every day, and nuclear plants are the only energy sources that can consistently deliver on that promise,” said Constellation CEO Joe Dominguez in a press release.

Clean energy advocates and businesses alike are looking towards nuclear energy as a source of zero-carbon power that is a reliable baseload source. A big pro is that nuclear is able to stay on at all times of the day and night, unlike wind and solar.

However, nuclear has drawn criticism for environmental groups for decades for its waste. The US still has no permanent repository for that waste, instead storing it at over 70 operating and shuttered plants around the nation.

Reopening of the Unit 1 reactor will add 3,400 direct and indirect jobs and add more than 800 megawatts of electricity to the grid, according to Constellation. It’s also expected to add $16 billion to Pennsylvania’s GDP, where the plant is located.

Shares of Constellation (CEG) soared more than 16% in midday trading.

Three Mile Island, located near Harrisburg, is best known for being the most serious accident at a commercial nuclear power plant in US history when it experienced the partial meltdown of one of its two reactors. Unit 2 reactor, which is adjacent to Unit 1, has remained closed since 1979 following the disaster.

The deal is enabled by President Joe Biden’s climate bill, which contains billions in tax credits to incentivize clean energy from nuclear in addition to wind, solar and clean hydrogen. The Biden administration and Congress have also poured billions into funding to stop old plants slated for closure from shutting down.

In the US “there’s not a lot of historical precedent on regulatory approval” to restart a shuttered plant, said Alan Ahn, deputy director for nuclear at think tank Third Way’s climate and energy program.

Regulators and companies are working to re-power the Palisades nuclear plant in Michigan, which was destined for closure until the federal government stepped in with over $1 billion to save it. Three Mile Island has been mothballed for several years longer, Ahn added.

But as tech giants search for more sources of power to fuel their AI needs, Ahn said companies are increasingly taking a hard look at nuclear energy, which is carbon-free and helps them maintain their lofty climate goals.

“When you’re talking about expanded power needs from artificial intelligence, data centers needing to run basically at full capacity for 24 hours a day.There’s not a lot of alternatives outside of nuclear,” Ahn said. “It’s becoming a fairly clear that the tech companies are really intently looking at nuclear.”

“This agreement is a major milestone in Microsoft’s efforts to help decarbonize the grid in support of our commitment to become carbon negative,” Bobby Hollis, vice president of energy for Microsoft, said in the release.

- CNN’s Ella Nilsen contributed to this report

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Re: THE Nuclear Power Thread pt 10 (merged)

Unread postby theluckycountry » Wed 20 Nov 2024, 03:11:49

Interesting that they are reviving these old plants, but not unexpected I suppose. The cost of de-commissioning, not to mention replacement, is quite beyond the scope of finances now I suspect. It's just a shame so much energy is wasted on rubbish like this AI, Bitcoin transactions, internet gaming and pornography. Imagine if say 10% of that money was diverted into refurbishing the grid itself? But of course that's not how capitalism works, capitalism is about maximum profits and a big part of that is serving the whims and fancies of the populace.
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Re: THE Nuclear Power Thread pt 10 (merged)

Unread postby AdamB » Tue 26 Nov 2024, 14:21:51

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', ' ') It's just a shame so much energy is wasted on rubbish like this AI, Bitcoin transactions, internet gaming and pornography.

Well, that's just the fun stuff that exceptional countries do in their spare time. Run along and ask your King for permission to not be damn uneducated (or permission to go to the bathroom).

This is what Americans can do, companies, government, whatever, just the usual exceptional....more energy invested in things Australians probably can't spell, let alone build. Nukes and rockets....there...I spelled it for you Lucky.

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