by Outcast_Searcher » Fri 01 Jan 2021, 11:02:18
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')Right now there is oil stranded in various places due to government problems— just like there was in Russia and Iraq before the invasion. Oilish stuff is waiting to be mined in various places— at a price. LTO may or may not ever be profitable, I can't guess. The US could discontinue efficiency standards, or reimpose even stricter at a whim, who knows?
That's what it boils down to, who knows? I'm pretty sure nobody. And all the "they've been predicting it for 100 years" arguments are just as useless. They are using the exact same set of data as the linearization except to justify their prediction that because there has never been a peak, there never will or not soon. Again, pretty useless.
Yup. The world is complex. As always, thanks for your review/input re your expertise.
The one thing history and economics tells us re likely behavior is that when push comes to shove, IF there is more crude oil demand than supply, the price will tend to rise. And if the price rises, then at some point, there is strong incentive to explore more and TRY to produce more.
Historically for the past 40 years, the more global demand, the more global production, as an overall trend. Whether that will hold is of course, another question.
I'm hoping we get lucky and enough consumption gets replaced by green energy and related products of all types in coming decades that it prevents large lasting crude price rises, even if there is less reasonably easy oil to produce.
Now the interesting question re fairly quickly limiting ever-increasing demand is how quickly the global electrification of light passenger vehicles proceeds. Guesses / projections vary wildly, depending on peoples' personal interests and biases, of course. For example, many Tesla fanbois insist that by 2030 nearly ALL new personal vehicles will be BEV's due to a gigantic cost advantage over ICE's. (They NEED to believe that to justify an ever-increasing stock valuation on TSLA). Folks beholden to the oil patch tend to believe that will NEVER EVER happen, or at least that it will take a hundred years or more. As usual on such spectrums of prediction, I'm in the middle, thinking 3ish decades for the first world, and more like 5ish for the third world (given infrastructure issues). Also, it seems to me that the progress re batteries, solar energy, etc. tends to be incremental as a trend, re cost and efficiency, and I think that will continue as the overall trend. Solid state batteries from the likes of Toyota MIGHT give efficiency a nice jump by 2025, but there are other issues like how many useful charging cycles are likely, etc.
Given the track record of the perma-doomer blogs, I wouldn't bet a fast crash doomer's money on their predictions.