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THE Patriot Act Thread (merged)
by LadyRuby » Mon 25 Jul 2005, 22:56:25
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('J-Rod', 'A')ctually, the whole red/blue thing is deceptive. Our country is more purple than anything.
Purple, ah my favorite color.
Still, sometimes it seems like a mutually concensual divorce would be best (break up this dysfunctional family), but I don't think it would be peaceful.
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by PlanComplete » Mon 25 Jul 2005, 22:58:07
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Hold on, hold on. The American people takes what gets dished out to them, and adapt, just like anyone else. It just so happe*snip snip as the full text is right above*
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Hold on, hold on. The American people takes what gets dished out to them, and adapt, just like anyone else. It just so happe*snip snip as the full text is right above*
Your wrong, Americans believe they are entitled to things they are not entitled too.
Some smuck walks down the street trips on a crack in the sidewalk, sues the homeowner wins tens of thousands. Because they feel they are entitled for monies they did not earn! There is no personal responsibilty why didn't the smuck watch where he was going? Because he didn't think he had too. Idiots.
People bitch because Bill Gates is a billionare, they think they are entitled to a cut of that, bullshit he started it, he worked it, he made it the billions of dollar company it is.
People lose there job due to lack of performance they whine and get money from the government (welfare) because they think they are entitled!
Your a dumbass beit your white, your black, your asian, your obese, your homosexual, your a woman, your whatever you whine about discrimination because you didn't get a job. Trust me as a employer I can give a flying f@#@ what color you are, what sexual preference you prefer, whether you a man or woman, as long as you can do the job.
And being as such, America also has the farthest to fall, and it will be painful.
There our other countries with the same policies and even some more so, but only in America can you get fat at McDonalds then try to sue them for it... No personal responsibilty .. And believe me if you read my posts, I love my country, I just don't love what the last 50 years have done too it. (With some exceptions of course)
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by LeonDion » Mon 25 Jul 2005, 23:22:03
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PlanComplete', '
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')Your wrong, Americans believe they are entitled to things they are not entitled too.
That's because they've seen so much of the same behaviour, and others getting away with it. They don't actually believe that they are entitled. They know that they just have to make a court believe it, so they can get paid.
Look, the fedgov takes whatever it deems appropriate from people's paychecks every week. They have no say in this. None. No one believes that their congress person is going to pay attention to a letter complaining about how much money they're taking out. Everyone knows that corporations get congress to make laws to benefit them at the expense of everybody else. The most vocal special interest groups get handouts from the fed, and the fed prints up more money to pay them out; why shouldn't I get a piece of the pie, is how the reasoning goes.
To claim that they actually believe that they are entitled is not correct. It's darn close, but I don't think it's exactly right. They believe that they can get away with it.
I understand that your experiences are shaped by being an employer of minorites. I grew up in the inner city of Detroit, and have known members of some favorite "victim groups" more intimately. From what I know personally, the situation is what I described above.
That being said, I'm not about to deny that a lot of "victim groups" have a good point. I think that if your family history was one of forced labor in "camps" run by racists with not so impressive character traits, you might feel the same way. Lucky if you haven't.
Even so, the more militant generation is passing away - the newer generations are forgetting the past.
But there's still a lot of unearned entitlements being given away, and it's mostly to the same ole' old money families, and the same kind of corporate whores. They get most of the giveaways. (Look at the 'reconstruction money' supposedly earmarked for the Iraqi people!) That's how the system guarantees loyaltee from its adherents. It pays them. When one sees this so blatantly, why in the world would they feel bad about suing some fat cat corporate whore if they think they can get away with it?
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by I_Like_Plants » Tue 26 Jul 2005, 00:59:36
It died when Hamilton and his cronies won out over Jefferson. The final nail was in the coffin when Lincoln was elected.
All we're experiencing now is rigor mortis.
All we're experiencing now is rigor mortis.
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by highlander » Tue 26 Jul 2005, 01:25:50
So...
There are a lot of people who are intelligent enough to see the Reps and Dems are keeping us fighting over the trivial. What will it take to get a viable third (or fourth, fifth, etc.) party to break the stranglehold they have over our government. It is still our country, our government. If we get rid of the corrupt politicians that do whatever the corps and banks want, we still might have a chance of keeping America intact. PO will change our lifestyles, but can we survive as a nation? Should we just hunker down and let America balkanize? I think the struggle has always been wealth and privilege vs "the common man". Race, religion, sexual preference, political affiliation are all straw dogs.
And yes, some of the poorest of the "red" counties get more services than they pay in taxes, but I had to put the bait out there
There are a lot of people who are intelligent enough to see the Reps and Dems are keeping us fighting over the trivial. What will it take to get a viable third (or fourth, fifth, etc.) party to break the stranglehold they have over our government. It is still our country, our government. If we get rid of the corrupt politicians that do whatever the corps and banks want, we still might have a chance of keeping America intact. PO will change our lifestyles, but can we survive as a nation? Should we just hunker down and let America balkanize? I think the struggle has always been wealth and privilege vs "the common man". Race, religion, sexual preference, political affiliation are all straw dogs.
And yes, some of the poorest of the "red" counties get more services than they pay in taxes, but I had to put the bait out there
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by Specop_007 » Tue 26 Jul 2005, 01:37:55
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('highlander', 'S')o...
There are a lot of people who are intelligent enough to see the Reps and Dems are keeping us fighting over the trivial. What will it take to get a viable third (or fourth, fifth, etc.) party to break the stranglehold they have over our government. It is still our country, our government. If we get rid of the corrupt politicians that do whatever the corps and banks want, we still might have a chance of keeping America intact. PO will change our lifestyles, but can we survive as a nation? Should we just hunker down and let America balkanize? I think the struggle has always been wealth and privilege vs "the common man". Race, religion, sexual preference, political affiliation are all straw dogs.
There are a lot of people who are intelligent enough to see the Reps and Dems are keeping us fighting over the trivial. What will it take to get a viable third (or fourth, fifth, etc.) party to break the stranglehold they have over our government. It is still our country, our government. If we get rid of the corrupt politicians that do whatever the corps and banks want, we still might have a chance of keeping America intact. PO will change our lifestyles, but can we survive as a nation? Should we just hunker down and let America balkanize? I think the struggle has always been wealth and privilege vs "the common man". Race, religion, sexual preference, political affiliation are all straw dogs.
You wont ever seen a third party because people cant agree. Thats why the current system works so well for Them
For example, no matter what they say Democrats will NEVER stand behind the 2nd amendment. No guns for you Johnny, your "dangerous".
And your just as likely to have a Republican back gay marriage. No wedding for you Johnny and Jack, thats just "wrong".
And since us subjects are too fucking stupid to come together and work it out we're destined to be forever divided.
It really pisses me off. I'd compromise on ALOT of issues to have full unrestricted 2nd Amendment rights. But others just wont budge. No gun for you 007, your "dangerous".
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