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Unread postby Laurasia » Sat 23 Jul 2005, 04:29:05

Whoops the title is Concierto de Aranjuez, by Villalobos, and it is a sad but beautiful melody.

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Unread postby lorenzo » Sat 23 Jul 2005, 05:45:02

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('DomusAlbion', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('tinosorb', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('DomusAlbion', ' ')Verdi always gave the crowd something they could take out onto the streets and sing on their way home.


Kitsch, you mean. If it appeals to the lowest common denominator!


Wow, a snob on Peak Oil. I'm shocked do you hear, shocked.

I suppose you prefer the 16 voice symphonies of R Strauss or the 12 tone works of Webern; excessive complexity and artifice.

Even Stravinski, the genius of the 20th century, saw the errors of Expressionism with its overly contrived and complex approach to music and returned to a simpler, neo-classical style.

Some like to look on Verdi with disdain, yet when he wished he created works as "modern" and "sophisticated" as his contemporaries.

There's nothing wrong with simplicity in music and an emphasis on beautiful melody, in fact, the most tender and deeply human emotions can only be expressed with simple melody.

In this particular work, the words and sentiment are all important.



I'm with you on this one, Domus. I don't have anything against serialists, mathematicians behind pianos or postmodern atonalists, but they don't make music. They are experimental philosophers and intellectuals. Their projects are interesting, but they're often very narcistic and they don't touch people. To me, music does always have to have an emotional component, not just a cerebral one.

Verdi was a master when it comes to creating collective emotions. And this is an absolutely critical factor in what we call "music", - bringing people together. Music everywhere and throughout the ages had had this communal function.

Cerebral, intellectualist music is a very recent invention. It's about as old as industrial bourgeois society. It has nothing to do with real music, though. John Cage doesn't communicate, he gives a one man show. Pierre Boulez doesn't communicate, he thinks. Schoenberg doesn't communicate, he experiments with himself. That's all good and well; but it's not music.

When Mozart wrote the Papageno duet, he was in touch with the masses. Kitsch, no doubt. But I think it's a gem, though.

Just my personal opinion.
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Unread postby Kent » Sat 23 Jul 2005, 16:29:38

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('DomusAlbion', 'V')erdi always gave the crowd something they could take out onto the streets and sing on their way home.


Yes, he was the Andrew Lloyd Webber of his day.

Except that Verdi actually had talent.
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Unread postby DomusAlbion » Sat 23 Jul 2005, 16:43:39

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('lorenzo', 'V')erdi was a master when it comes to creating collective emotions. And this is an absolutely critical factor in what we call "music", - bringing people together. Music everywhere and throughout the ages had had this communal function.


Yes, Lorenzo! Let me ask you your opinion of the modern Minimalists such as Glass, Part and Gorecki.

I've performed several Part and Gorecki pieces. Have you heard Totus Tuu by Gorecki; it's a work he dedicated to John Paul II.
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