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Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Thu 21 Jul 2005, 21:08:04

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')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'Y')ou are right. This is the way that Bach and Händel worked out their different composing styles:
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:lol: :lol: :lol: :-D

Albente, that was rich!
agreed. The thing is though, I'm just not really that sure if he was agreeing with me or not! Doesn't matter, Albente's picture posts are always a treat.
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Unread postby oowolf » Thu 21 Jul 2005, 21:17:35

"ah NO son miei figli! miei figli!"
To have heard Jenny Lind sing this at her debut at the Berlin Opera in December 1844.....
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Unread postby Free » Thu 21 Jul 2005, 21:26:01

oowolf, you should be heading straight to the age poll thread...
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Unread postby oowolf » Thu 21 Jul 2005, 21:38:47

It's just wishing. Lind's voice was considered so sublime that listeners would swoon, anouncing that they could now die, having experienced perfection. Diva-hysteria circa mid-19th century. She was once paid 2,000 pounds sterling just to sing "God Save the Queen".
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Unread postby Free » Thu 21 Jul 2005, 21:44:31

Yes so imagine our huge disappointment if we could listen to her now and would find out she doesn't sing better than the average pop star today!
No honestly, it would be really interesting to compare 19th century singers to todays standards. My guess is that today voices are stronger and technically better because of better singing education etc. - but after all it's not about techniques, its about emotions.

But then consider that for example many people don't like classical music being played on historical instruments, because of course they where less "rocky" and "powerful" due to construction etc...
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Unread postby lorenzo » Thu 21 Jul 2005, 22:46:17

Vittorio Emanuele Re D'Italia.

My absolute single most favorite little piece of classical music ("Va pensiero", Nabucco):
http://www.giuseppeverdi.it/Inglese/all ... p?ID=49970

Collectivistic, full of expectation, ultra-simple, populist, not too cerebral and you should grant yourself the opportunity, at least once in your lifetime, to sing this along with 200 ordinary Italians while walking towards the sea with the deep red sun setting slowly on the horizon.

It's undoubtedly the first pop-song in the history of classical music.
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Unread postby khebab » Thu 21 Jul 2005, 22:50:20

Purcell

Bach

Schubert

Chopin (Nocturne, Sonates)

Liszt

Scriabin (early works)

Rachmaninov

Philip Glass (composed the score for the Fog of War)
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Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Thu 21 Jul 2005, 22:54:08

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Chopin (Nocturne, Sonates)

I could never get into those Nocturnes, but the piano waltzes are among my very favorites.
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Unread postby khebab » Thu 21 Jul 2005, 23:03:12

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', 'I') could never get into those Nocturnes, but the piano waltzes are among my very favorites.

That's funny, it's the contrary for me, I don't like the Waltzes and Mazurkas but the Preludes, Nocturnes and Studies blow me away each time.
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Unread postby DomusAlbion » Fri 22 Jul 2005, 01:23:35

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('oowolf', '"')ah NO son miei figli! miei figli!"
To have heard Jenny Lind sing this at her debut at the Berlin Opera in December 1844.....


"Che gelida manina! Se la lasci riscaldar.
Cercar che giova? Al buio non si trova."

Sentimental soap opera, but my favorite.
"Modern Agriculture is the use of land to convert petroleum into food."
-- Albert Bartlett

"It will be a dark time. But for those who survive, I suspect it will be rather exciting."
-- James Lovelock
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Unread postby oowolf » Fri 22 Jul 2005, 18:34:58

Ah, Rodolfo's aria--Musetta's waltz: great melodies. But I must admit to an intense attraction to the Ice Princess' "in questa reggia"!! (I once dated a female psychopath.) (Billie Holiday was also a female psychopath.)
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Unread postby DomusAlbion » Fri 22 Jul 2005, 18:41:22

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('oowolf', 'A')h, Rodolfo's aria--Musetta's waltz: great melodies. But I must admit to an intense attraction to the Ice Princess' "in questa reggia"!! (I once dated a female psychopath.) (Billie Holiday was also a female psychopath.)


Oh, yah! Turandot. It's hard to say which was Puccini's best. The critics made fun of him in his time, saying he really was not a good composer and didn't understand music theory well. Maybe, but he sure understood the human heart.
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Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Fri 22 Jul 2005, 18:43:37

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('oowolf', ' ')(I once dated a female psychopath.)
:? did she boil a pet bunny rabbit on your stove and pour acid on your car?
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Unread postby DomusAlbion » Fri 22 Jul 2005, 18:59:54

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('oowolf', ' ')(I once dated a female psychopath.)
:? did she boil a pet bunny rabbit on your stove and pour acid on your car?


That sounds like a Stephen King novel. :?
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Unread postby oowolf » Fri 22 Jul 2005, 19:21:31

She liked to almost-strangle cats. She had 4 bullet holes on her bod. She did 4 years for "delivefing controlled substances". She got me attacked by bikers in a theatre while the movie was in progress-I was in surgery for 5 hours and have cobalt-chrome pins holding some bones together. She died at age 29 by rolling her old Bronco over onto a guardrail--decapitation. There's your libretto.
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Unread postby oowolf » Fri 22 Jul 2005, 19:23:50

She could also do a card trick where she shuffled the cards, had you cut, then she would deal--every hand would be a full house except HERS which would be a royal flush. Damned if i know how this is done.
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Unread postby DomusAlbion » Fri 22 Jul 2005, 19:28:35

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('lorenzo', 'M')y absolute single most favorite little piece of classical music ("Va pensiero", Nabucco)


My favorite Verdi chorus. Verdi always gave the crowd something they could take out onto the streets and sing on their way home.
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Unread postby DomusAlbion » Sat 23 Jul 2005, 00:21:25

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('tinosorb', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('DomusAlbion', ' ')Verdi always gave the crowd something they could take out onto the streets and sing on their way home.


Kitsch, you mean. If it appeals to the lowest common denominator!


Wow, a snob on Peak Oil. I'm shocked do you hear, shocked.

I suppose you prefer the 16 voice symphonies of R Strauss or the 12 tone works of Webern; excessive complexity and artifice.

Even Stravinski, the genius of the 20th century, saw the errors of Expressionism with its overly contrived and complex approach to music and returned to a simpler, neo-classical style.

Some like to look on Verdi with disdain, yet when he wished he created works as "modern" and "sophisticated" as his contemporaries.

There's nothing wrong with simplicity in music and an emphasis on beautiful melody, in fact, the most tender and deeply human emotions can only be expressed with simple melody.

In this particular work, the words and sentiment are all important.
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Unread postby Laurasia » Sat 23 Jul 2005, 04:15:56

Some of my favourites are Brahms Symphonies I & 4; also the Violin Concerto No 1 by Max Bruch; Ma Vlast by Smetana. Then there's Scheherezade by Whatsisname, Cancion de Aranjuez by Whatsisname, and the Girl with the Flaxen Hair by Debussy, or was it Whatsisname?

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