THE Vegetarian Thread (merged)

by **The_Virginian** » Mon 06 Jun 2005, 10:37:29

yep, and I also thought babe was like 12 diffrent piglets, and bambi was one cartoon DEER $this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 't')o get me a deer that size.

by **uNkNowN ElEmEnt** » Tue 07 Jun 2005, 00:46:37

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I') agree we must pick our battles, I only pick this one in the interest of them maintaining a healthy diet. While important for anyone, its especially important that children have a nutrionally rounded diet.

If she was argueing for...say.... only showering once every other day, or not wearing blue clothes, well then fine. No big complaints there.

by **scmayo** » Tue 07 Jun 2005, 07:48:55

I think some of you are confusing vegan (no meat AND no dairy/eggs) with a vegetarian diet (which does include dairy & eggs). Vegans can be deficient in B12, but with a vegetarian diet you'd have to try pretty hard to be malnourished, even as a growing child.

by **Doly** » Tue 07 Jun 2005, 08:03:47

I've been a junk food vegetarian (that is, somebody who doesn't eat meat or fish but otherwise isn't too careful whether what she eats is healthy or not) for four years and a half. My health is exactly the same as when I started (quite good). I know a lot of other vegetarians (I live in Brighton, where about 20% of the population is vegetarian), and they are generally as healthy as meat-eaters with similar lifestyles.

by **EdF** » Tue 07 Jun 2005, 15:30:56

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Specop_007', '.')..
My biggest concern is meeting the nutrinional requirements for an 8 year old. Its one thing to say "I'm not eating meat!" and quite another to say "I'm going to live a healthy lifestyle without eating meat"...

by **Specop_007** » Tue 07 Jun 2005, 16:59:55

Well, we've talked about it the past few days. I told her what she would and would not be able to eat, and told her we can do a "Test Run" as it were Wednesday. Basically, she will get special meals while the rest of us continue normally. She thought about it a few days (We talked this weekend) and shes finally decided its not fer her.

In her defense, I was being an ass and using a hardcore vegan diet. No milk, no eggs....Which of course meant none of moms cake, or cookies etc etc. :-D

Yes, I'm an ass. But, she does have a good understanding exactly what type of sacrafices are necesary in these types of things now.

by **erl** » Thu 21 Jul 2005, 15:04:56

Well, the cows have invaded. I am officially no longer a beefeater.

*sigh*

No more hamburger. No more all-beef hotdogs. No more steak (except for the frozen ones in my freezer).

All by myself, I will be causing the price of beef to drop in the U.S.

Next thing you know I'll be a vegetarian (the horror, the horror).

by **rockdoc123** » Thu 21 Jul 2005, 15:41:15

Hello .....anyone home......the last case of Mad Cow was identified as a US born cow....it did not come from Canada.
Also there are rumors that some US ranchers have been shooting, shoveling and shutting up for sometime with regards this issue.

by **sklump** » Thu 21 Jul 2005, 16:00:05

... and some studies are suggesting that many human cases currently diagnosed as Alzheimer's are actually CJD.

But those are very early results and we should probably eye those skeptically.

by **erl** » Thu 21 Jul 2005, 19:16:10

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rockdoc123', 'H')ello .....anyone home......

by **EnergySpin** » Thu 21 Jul 2005, 19:20:01

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'B')ut, for now, no beef for me.

I feel better already.

by **I_Like_Plants** » Fri 22 Jul 2005, 06:05:39

You know lamb's pretty good, Trader Joe's has had some great lamb shank steaks recently, two dinners for $5 or so, "Halal" markets are good places for lamb too.

by **killJOY** » Fri 22 Jul 2005, 06:46:12

Only beef I eat is from a local supplier of grass-fed cow meat.

I, too, have heard of the link between CD and so-called Alzheimer's. It's been in a book called EVERYTHING YOU KNOW IS WRONG.

We grow most of our own meat: chicken, turkey, pork, sometimes lamb.

We have a grass-fed milking Devon.

Did you know the idea that drinking raw milk is dangerous is a scam? A corporate conspiracy? See the latest issue of Small Farmer's Journal for a look at the history of raw milk.

Don't EVER drink raw milk from a commercially-raised, grain-and-silage-fed cow, though. There's a REASON they have to pasteurize their milk!

http://www.smallfarmersjournal.com/

P.S. Hats off to those who can maintain a vegetarian diet!

by **Doly** » Fri 22 Jul 2005, 07:23:15

I've maintained a vegetarian diet for five years now. Never had any problem. I just eat what I like (I never liked meat).

by **I_Like_Plants** » Fri 22 Jul 2005, 07:35:19

Vegetarian diets are not natural, but compared to the modern American mainstream diet, they're probably far healthier.

Grass fed local beef is a GOOD idea, I'm sure gravitating that way. I remember once giving a large fat gopher the JFK treatment, I feel the murder was justified since the place I lived was rented and if that sucker killed that apple tree he was burrowing around the base of, the death of the tree would be on me. So I capped him. Precision pellet guns are a joy, by the way. If I were true to the ideals we're all going to be living under soon, I'd have stewed him with some onions and sage etc.

I'm a big believer in the "paleo" diet although not in the raw food diet, we and our earlier ape-ish ancestors have apparently been cooking our food for literally a couple million years, cooking is good. But no Twinkies, no breakfast cereals, no processed stuff. Meat, nuts, greens, berries, greens, bugs (yes bugs) the natural stuff, and EXERCISE. Humans are the best walkers on the planet. First Nations ppl in the US used to outwalk the gringos on their horses, then when the horses couldn't hack it, eat the horses. Then deal with the gringos. We can outwalk anything. We're made to get around by our muscle power, peregrine falcons of the land. So get out and walk, ride a bike. Get out of your car and eat greens and raise or hunt rabbits and glow with health again.

by **The_Toecutter** » Fri 22 Jul 2005, 20:26:54

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'P').S. Hats off to those who can maintain a vegetarian diet!

by **uNkNowN ElEmEnt** » Fri 22 Jul 2005, 20:33:41

You know what? It doesn't matter where a cow is born. what matters is what the animal is fed. If fed rendered animals then it has a higher chance of getting BSE. It could be born anywhere, but if fed contaminated feed then it will get BSE.

by **The_Toecutter** » Fri 22 Jul 2005, 20:56:09

Hence why I'd be more willing to trust Canadian beef than American, even though I trust neither enough to consume it. America just lets everything get covered up so as to keep their industry from being damaged. That's what happens when big agribusiness runs all over the small family farmers and drives them out of business through often illegal means. Factory farming is an environmental disaster.

by **hanrahan** » Fri 22 Jul 2005, 20:57:46

Australia has never had a case of BSE and probably never will. Our beef industry is mainly "free reange" with some grown cattle being fattened for a few months in a feed lot.

Most of the cheaper cuts sent to the US will have been grass fd all their lives. Much of this, I believe, ends up in hamburger patties.

Hanrahan

by **sirrom** » Thu 08 Feb 2007, 13:14:55

are any of you going to become vegetarian after this article:

http://www.peakoil.com/article23123.html

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