[WildRose]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jedrider', 'I') got the flu while traveling to Central America, but came down with it fully the day after I got back. So, about three days of being under the weather. Perhaps, I could have opted for the high-tech flu vaccination solution. Anyway, not severe enough to warrant seeing a doctor. Some years, I just get colds and no flu, so I wonder if it is really worth getting vaccinated? I was one of the first to get the swine flu when that went around - again travelling to Central America via Mexico, and I wonder what the efficacy of flu vaccination was for that?? That pretty much ruined my vacation completely

[onlooker]

My profile is similar to you Wildrose, I am 52 yrs old and I rarely get even a cold. So I have never though of getting vaccinated. I am proponent of boosting immune system or at least keeping healthy to avoid any maladies. Medicines are not for me.

[WildRose]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('onlooker', 'M')y profile is similar to you Wildrose, I am 52 yrs old and I rarely get even a cold. So I have never though of getting vaccinated. I am proponent of boosting immune system or at least keeping healthy to avoid any maladies. Medicines are not for me.

[onlooker]

here in link: http://news.yahoo.com/flu-hospitalizati ... 19401.html
It seems to me the reliance on the flu-vaccine may now be becoming problematic in the sense that the flu bug has proven to be very hardy and relentless and trying to battle it with medicine and vaccines is proving more difficult then presumed. They report in this article that the flu strains have not been matched this year well with the vaccines. I suspect it goes deeper then this, in that in general the flu virus is adapting to any vaccines just like bacterias have adapted to various antibiotics. It does feel to me that battling the flu with medicine may be an uphill battle with limited success.

[Outcast_Searcher]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('onlooker', 'h')ere in link: http://news.yahoo.com/flu-hospitalizati ... 19401.html
It seems to me the reliance on the flu-vaccine may now be becoming problematic in the sense that the flu bug has proven to be very hardy and relentless and trying to battle it with medicine and vaccines is proving more difficult then presumed. They report in this article that the flu strains have not been matched this year well with the vaccines. I suspect it goes deeper then this, in that in general the flu virus is adapting to any vaccines just like bacterias have adapted to various antibiotics. It does feel to me that battling the flu with medicine may be an uphill battle with limited success.

[onlooker]

I am glad Outcast you have so much faith in Conventional medicine. I simply do not. I guess we can just agree to disagree.

[Outcast_Searcher]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('onlooker', 'I') am glad Outcast you have so much faith in Conventional medicine. I simply do not. I guess we can just agree to disagree.

[onlooker]

Outcast, I am not discounting science in any way, thank goodness we live in a time when the scrutiny and discipline of science and empirically based conclusions reign supreme. I am simply somewhat skeptical of our continue reliance on medicines to cure people. Vaccines have certainly proven their worth over time. Chemo and Radiation have been successful in early stage cancers I will concede all that. However, that does not mean that we should or must solely rely on medicines as the first and only line of defense. My understanding is that the human body is a tremendous endowment fined tuned over eons of time in it's evolution. I refer to Hippocrates who said "let food be your medicine and medicine your food" I think what he was emphasizing was that the body could under the right conditions heal itself. So I concede in the usefulness of some vaccines and medicines. Now Outcast will you concede that a healthy diet, enough sleep, some exercise can do wonders for a person?

[Subjectivist]

The Detroit Freepress is sounding the alarm, H3N8 is spreading like mad from Chicago eastward through the Great Lakes states. Illinois, Indiana and Ohio are already putting out vet warnings about the outbreak.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he Chicago-area outbreak has sickened more than 1,100 dogs and has killed six. Cases have also been reported in Wisconsin, Ohio and Indiana. No cases have been reported in Michigan, according to the Michigan Veterinary Medical Association. The outbreak started this spring in boarding facilities where dogs are in close contact.

High-risk dogs

All ages and sizes of dogs are equally at risk. But dogs with "flat snouts" like pugs, French bulldogs and Pekingese may have a tougher time dealing with the flu, because of the anatomy of their respiratory tract.

Treatment

In mild cases, the dogs are usually treated with cough suppressants. Antibiotics may be used if there is a secondary bacterial infection. The severe form needs to be treated aggressively with a broad spectrum of antibiotics, fluids and other general support treatments.

Duration

In most cases, the symptoms will last 10 to 30 days and usually go away on their own. Rest and isolation from other dogs is important.

[onlooker]

Tanada you might find this interesting. I was watching a documentary about how influenza could be traced back to 5000 years ago in a particular region in China. With the mixing of humans with poultry and in some cases pigs and cows. In fact it stated that pigs were a very good carrier as they could be infected with both the avian and human strains of influenza. Very interesting indeed and certainly for you T as a history buff.

[Tanada]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('onlooker', 'T')anada you might find this interesting. I was watching a documentary about how influenza could be traced back to 5000 years ago in a particular region in China. With the mixing of humans with poultry and in some cases pigs and cows. In fact it stated that pigs were a very good carrier as they could be infected with both the avian and human strains of influenza. Very interesting indeed and certainly for you T as a history buff.

[onlooker]

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nationa ... -1.3751079
2018 flu season already deadly, vaccine may be less effective than years prior

[onlooker]

https://www.today.com/video/deadly-flu- ... 8298819736
Deadly flu epidemic brings new warnings from CDC