[ennui2]

But by the sound of it, his way of trying to change people was shouting and getting hauled away by the cops. I doubt that was going to do anything but create a reputation of environmentalists as fundie wackos.

[careinke]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('onlooker', 'I') think we should give a special mention and recognition to someone like Pstarr on this site, because he was a person who tried to make a difference and persuade others to change their ways and change course. Of course the humongous tidal wave of materialism ,ignorance and corrupt leadership it appears was never going to be stopped in hindsight. Nevertheless, I feel it my duty to salute someone like Pete in the way in olden times people saluted soldiers for defending their societies.

[ennui2]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
')J@rks who sit on the sideline and judge everybody

[onlooker]

https://www.sott.net/article/345907-90- ... ive-future
90% of people don't want to know about a negative future
So are we here an exception to the rule?

[peripato]

No sane person "wants doom", especially those of us who have kids. Anyone who thinks otherwise is a complete retard.

Doomerism is what happens when the scales fall from your eyes and you realise that it was all for nothing. And that Homo Sapiens Sapiens (that's a joke) is destined for the dustbin of history, just like the millions of "failed" species before him. Nothing wrong with that, every creature has its time in the sun, and then fades. But this was by our own hand, we could have made it different. We had the means to a "happy ending", but we blew it.

We could have been a contender...

[Cog]

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90% of people don't want to know about a negative future
So are we here an exception to the rule?

[onlooker]

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90% of people don't want to know about a negative future
So are we here an exception to the rule?

[zleo99]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('peripato', 'N')o sane person "wants doom", especially those of us who have kids. Anyone who thinks otherwise is a complete retard.

Doomerism is what happens when the scales fall from your eyes and you realise that it was all for nothing. And that Homo Sapiens Sapiens (that's a joke) is destined for the dustbin of history, just like the millions of "failed" species before him. Nothing wrong with that, every creature has its time in the sun, and then fades. But this was by our own hand, we could have made it different. We had the means to a "happy ending", but we blew it.

We could have been a contender...

[zleo99]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('onlooker', 'I') think we should give a special mention and recognition to someone like Pstarr on this site, because he was a person who tried to make a difference and persuade others to change their ways and change course. Of course the humongous tidal wave of materialism ,ignorance and corrupt leadership it appears was never going to be stopped in hindsight. Nevertheless, I feel it my duty to salute someone like Pete in the way in olden times people saluted soldiers for defending their societies.

[Cog]

Because the poor, who are working everyday for survival, don't have the luxury of posting endless reams of doom that no one cares about but them and other doomers.

[Newfie]

Or maybe they do, but you don't read their language?

China had a national one child policy aimed at reducing the rate of overshoot. So clearly there was very significant discussion there some decades ago. It seems Germany and other Western nations are trying to do more about carbon, so there is also a national discussion there.

These are not sufficient efforts, but they show some institutional awareness. Hell even the Pope made some comments about reducing over shoot.

Mericans seem to be especially dense on the matter, deep into denial. Maybe it has more to do with our penchant for feeling ordained. You know, Manifest Destiny. Maybe too many of us just think it's all Gods work and we have no business interfering.

From Wiki
"In the 19th century, manifest destiny was a widely held belief in the United States that its settlers were destined to expand across North America. There are three basic themes to manifest destiny:

The special virtues of the American people and their institutions
The mission of the United States to redeem and remake the west in the image of agrarian America
An irresistible destiny to accomplish this essential duty[3]"
Historian Frederick Merk says this concept was born out of "a sense of mission to redeem the Old World by high example ... generated by the potentialities of a new earth for building a new heaven".[4]"

This kind of thinking mow seems to be called "American Exceptionalism."

[Ibon]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cog', 'B')ecause the poor, who are working everyday for survival, don't have the luxury of posting endless reams of doom that no one cares about but them and other doomers.

[Newfie]

I agree with respect to the poor. But there is, as squilliam notes, a large English speaking middle and upper class who don't find their way here.

It's a great point, we have a number of Europewn members here and the kiwis and Auzzies. No Indians, Chineese, Japaneese, Africans, etc. I wonder how much the Internet is blocked in those regions. I surely see access changes between the USA, Canada, and Bahamas.

[Cog]

Maybe doom is kind of a white thing. I know it sounds sort of racist in a way but if you took a poll of all the doom sites, I'd wager the vast majority are white. Perhaps even to the extent that far outweighs their racial percentages in their respective countries.

[Newfie]

I suspect you are right. Not sure what that means. In fact I don't have a clue.