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The Case for a Soft Landing

Postby Aaron » Thu 14 Jul 2005, 20:11:43

Yup...

Gonna be like Petticoat Junction.

Uncle Joe out on the porch in his rocker, as the train comes around the bend into town.

Farm girls skinny dipping in the wooden water tower, & fishin for blue-gill down at the lake.

I can almost smell the fresh baked apple pie cooling on the window sill.

mmmmmmmm

It'll be like camp... I can't wait!

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')f the Americans draw their missiles and position-guided ammunition on to the target zone on China's territory, I think we will have to respond with nuclear weapons,”


$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '')If the Americans are determined to interfere [then] we will be determined to respond,” Mr Zhu said. “We Chinese will prepare ourselves for the destruction of all of the cities east of Xian. Of course the Americans will have to be prepared that hundreds. . . of cities will be destroyed by the Chinese.” Mr Zhu is a self-acknowledged “hawk” who has warned previously that China could strike the US with long-range missiles. But his threat to use nuclear weapons in a conflict over Taiwan is the most specific by a senior Chinese official in nearly a decade.


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Postby BabyPeanut » Thu 14 Jul 2005, 20:15:25

If all the Expletive deleted. that US hawks said came true we'd all be dead long ago.

Can you say "posturing"? China would have to be prepared for way more than just some of their cities destroyed if the world nuked out.
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Postby Kingcoal » Thu 14 Jul 2005, 20:21:00

The chinese are so all talk and no action. I know, let's sell them opium with their T-bills. OK, it's been done before...
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Postby Jack » Thu 14 Jul 2005, 20:50:11

Many terrible wars have started with the assumption that a quick, almost bloodless victory would occur.

The U.S. Civil war comes to mind...as does WWI...In WWII, Germany didn't expect to be confronted over Poland, and they anticipated a quick victory over Russia. No doubt others can add further examples.

Posturing and escalation can have interesting consequences.

Say, as long as it's going to be Petticoat Junction, can we have a bit of Green Acres? Surely the transition to sustainability will be a laugh a minute!
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Postby Permanently_Baffled » Fri 15 Jul 2005, 07:59:05

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
')Gen Zhu said his views did not represent official Chinese policy and he did not anticipate war with the US.
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Postby Jaymax » Fri 15 Jul 2005, 09:13:37

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jack', 'M')any terrible wars have started with the assumption that a quick, almost bloodless victory would occur.

The U.S. Civil war comes to mind...as does WWI...In WWII, Germany didn't expect to be confronted over Poland, and they anticipated a quick victory over Russia. No doubt others can add further examples.


Erm, a slightly more recent example (or perhaps the word 'current' woud be better) comes to mind.

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Postby Jack » Fri 15 Jul 2005, 09:41:51

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jaymax', '
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Erm, a slightly more recent example (or perhaps the word 'current' woud be better) comes to mind.

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Just because there's a large elephant in the living room, one need not talk about it. :lol:
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Postby wilburke » Fri 15 Jul 2005, 10:11:47

Aaron, kudos for your very coherent summary of the soft-landing position. I don't care how you spin it, Chinese generals even mentioning the notion of tactical nuclear war gives me the shivers.....

By the way, the water tower those pretty girls were bathing in, wasn't that also the town's drinking water? 8)
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Postby Aaron » Fri 15 Jul 2005, 10:18:08

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('wilburke', 'A')aron, kudos for your very coherent summary of the soft-landing position. I don't care how you spin it, Chinese generals even mentioning the notion of tactical nuclear war gives me the shivers.....

By the way, the water tower those pretty girls were bathing in, wasn't that also the town's drinking water? 8)


Thank god someone finally saw the point of this post...

I was getting nervous.

Putting a specific condition like Taiwan interference, is a break from Chinese "posturing" of the past.

And one more important point... this is now.

What happens when depletion sets in?

Kinda like a Norman Rockwell painting... with a little mushroom cloud in the distance.

And yeah... that was their drinking water...

I have no problem with that. :)
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Postby Permanently_Baffled » Fri 15 Jul 2005, 13:04:37

Actually there is a positive spin to this scenario. :lol:

With the US and China removed from the planet, thats 28mpd of oil demand gone wahoooo! Cheap oil here we come !! :razz:

Just don't drag the rest of us into it , you wanna nuke each other - fine. :lol:

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Postby Eli » Fri 15 Jul 2005, 13:28:26

You guys are fools, and do not know your history.
By your endless talking you have revealed your selves to be total jack asses.

If you can't not be trusted to get well know historical facts correct what makes you think you can get serious and weightier matters like global politics right?

Of course I am referring to the simple and well known fact that the water tower that those lovely ladys were swimming in at the start of Petticoat Junction was for steam engine trains, in no way shape or form was it for human consumption.
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Postby Aaron » Fri 15 Jul 2005, 14:36:13

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'O')f course I am referring to the simple and well known fact that the water tower that those lovely ladys were swimming in at the start of Petticoat Junction was for steam engine trains, in no way shape or form was it for human consumption.


My God he's right!

If we missed something so basic, we must question even our most cherished ideas!

We should be pistol-whipped.

Mmmmmm... Pistol whip....
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Postby CarlinsDarlin » Fri 15 Jul 2005, 15:06:35

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'M')mmmmm... Pistol whip....


LMAO :lol: ... allright, Aaron. Get the image of the girls bathing in the water tower out of your head and come back to reality...
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Postby pup55 » Fri 15 Jul 2005, 15:21:02

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'l')ovely ladys were swimming in at the start of Petticoat Junction was for steam engine trains


ugh!

Not to mention that a "real" open-topped tankful of untreated stagnant water, no doubt pumped up from some groundwater someplace, would likely have been filled with algae, insect larvae, and other vermin, and be not fit for swimming, at least by our modern standards.
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Postby wilburke » Fri 15 Jul 2005, 20:52:04

Eli, my apologies.....I am truly repentant. The following link sure cleared up alot of my woeful ignorance:
http://www.mortystv.com/feat1.shtml
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Postby RainShadow » Fri 15 Jul 2005, 21:15:21

I wish all of our end-of-the-world threads contained this much 'babes swimming' talk :)

I gotta go stock up on suntan oil now..
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