[Newfie]

Interesting, Trump leads in Michigan by 10,700. Stein had 51,000 votes. So who did in Hillary?

Maybe this recount is just because Stein is feeling guilty.

Cog is correct in that the original tally has already been scrubbed with a small decrease in Hillarys favor. What more would a recount do?

http://www.freep.com/story/news/politic ... /94360852/

[Newfie]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dohboi', 'I')nteresting to see Trump supporters and Clinton haters so nervously opposed to a recount.

If there's nothing to find, there's nothing for you folks to worry about, right?

The fact that you're worried tells us that you actually think there may be serious problems.

[Outcast_Searcher]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dohboi', 'I')nteresting to see Trump supporters and Clinton haters so nervously opposed to a recount.

If there's nothing to find, there's nothing for you folks to worry about, right?

The fact that you're worried tells us that you actually think there may be serious problems.

[Plantagenet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Outcast_Searcher', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dohboi', 'I')nteresting to see Trump supporters and Clinton haters so nervously opposed to a recount.

If there's nothing to find, there's nothing for you folks to worry about, right?

[Cog]

Yep saw that Hillary had joined the effort to overturn the election. What a surprise. So did the Dems stuff ballot boxes before the election or right after it knowing this recount was coming?

[Newfie]

Interesting article. Doesn't sound like they expect to win. It notes dos page that even the small 10,700 vote Trump lead in Michigan is much bigger than any past recount turnover. In PA he has over a 70,000 vote lead.

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/11/26/us ... itics.com/

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he essay suggested that the campaign was joining the recount effort with little expectation that it would change the result. But many of the campaign’s supporters, picking up on its frequent complaints of Russian interference in the election, have enthusiastically backed the recount effort led by Jill Stein, who was the Green Party candidate.

Ms. Stein filed for a recount in Wisconsin on Friday afternoon, about an hour before the deadline. She has raised more than $5 million for the effort, which now will turn to Michigan and Pennsylvania, where there are deadlines next week.

In his post, Mr. Elias sounded less enthusiastic than the recount’s many supporters. “Because we had not uncovered any actionable evidence of hacking or outside attempts to alter the voting technology,” he wrote, “we had not planned to exercise this option ourselves.”

He added, “Now that a recount has been initiated in Wisconsin, we intend to participate in order to ensure the process proceeds in a manner that is fair to all sides.”

[Sixstrings]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')b]Did Trump win because of Russia? The answer is scary.

A foreign country had a big hand in our election and brainwashed voters with propaganda. Let that sink in.

The Post stops short of crediting Russia with Trump’s win. However, considering the role the foreign country played and the fact the election came down to close margins in a handful of states, Hillary Clinton would have likely won without Russian involvement.
http://fusion.net/story/372197/russia-propoganda-helped-trump-win/

[Plantagenet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sixstrings', '
')A foreign country had a big hand in our election and brainwashed voters with propaganda. Let that sink in.

[Sixstrings]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', '[')img]http://journal-neo.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/2372800454-cold-war-propaganda-ad-good-housekeeping-magazine.jpg[/img]
D party propaganda

[Cog]

Jill Clinton will have a more difficult process in Michigan and Pennsylvania. She will have to show up in court, in every county that she wants to have recounted, and show prima facie evidence that a fraud or miscount actually occurred. Since neither she nor that computer expert allege that they have this evidence, this will not go very far. I wonder if she realized this before she scammed Democrats out of $6 million dollars.

I should have thought of this scam first and made bank.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/11 ... ake-court/

[dohboi]

The thing that these kind of investigations can do is to bring up enough doubt about the whole election, especially given the extreme popular vote 'victory' by the Dems, that it will cause enough electors to swing their votes that the election will go the other way.

[Outcast_Searcher]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dohboi', 'T')he thing that these kind of investigations can do is to bring up enough doubt about the whole election, especially given the extreme popular vote 'victory' by the Dems, that it will cause enough electors to swing their votes that the election will go the other way.

[Cog]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dohboi', 'T')he thing that these kind of investigations can do is to bring up enough doubt about the whole election, especially given the extreme popular vote 'victory' by the Dems, that it will cause enough electors to swing their votes that the election will go the other way.

[Plantagenet]

The Ds are out to subvert the election process.

The Ds want to spread a nutty conspiracy theory as a way to undermine people's faith in our elections and the governmental insitutions of our glorious Republic.

Its disgusting, IMHO.

[Sixstrings]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')b]Recount effort poised to explore whether Russia hacked the vote for Trump
https://www.rawstory.com/2016/11/recount-effort-poised-to-explore-whether-russia-hacked-the-vote-for-trump/

[Cog]

Trump managed to get elected without your stellar advice and he will govern just fine by doing the opposite of everything you have suggested.

[Sixstrings]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cog', 'T')rump managed to get elected without your stellar advice and he will govern just fine by doing the opposite of everything you have suggested.

[Cog]

Elections have consequences Sixstrings. Something you still haven't realized. Trump is doing fine with his cabinet picks and they will reflect his philosophy as a winner of an election and not a loser of one. Losers whine, winners dictate the terms of the surrender. But back on topic.

Since I am evil, if I were heading the election commission in Wisconsin I would jack up the costs for the recount which I would charge the Green Party. Nothing in election law says I have to eat any of the costs of it. I would encourage my county election officials to submit large numbers to make sure of that. It would roughly equal what Jill Stein has raised so far. Any money left over could be returned to the taxpayers in the form of a property tax rebate.

http://www.jsonline.com/story/news/poli ... /94518204/

It will be a significant challenge to complete a statewide recount of nearly 3 million votes in less than two weeks. County canvass boards"It and (Wisconsin Elections Commission) staff will need to put in a substantial amount of extended hours throughout the next few weeks," according to the memorandum.

If approved at a 9:30 a.m. meeting Monday at the elections commission in Madison, here's how the recount will be conducted:

•Monday, cost estimates and vote tabulation method will be provided by county clerks to the commission by noon. Commission officials will provide estimated statewide costs to the campaigns of both Stein and independent candidate Roque "Rocky" De La Fuente by the end of the day.
•Tuesday, the Stein and De La Fuente campaigns pay for the recount. Once full payment is received by either campaign, the commission will issue a recount order to all presidential candidates.

[Cog]

Jill Stein has hit her first roadblock in Wisconsin. She insisted that the paper ballots be checked by hand. That has been rejected by the three Democrat and three Republican members of the election commission. Also rejected by the Democrat Election Chairman, who is a Democrat. Stein has threatened to sue over that issue. Good luck with that.

The state AG is a Republican and the state Supreme Court is 5-2 conservative judges. No where in Wisconsin state law is there a requirement that a recount must be done by hand or personally checking each ballot. The paper ballots can be scanned just as they were when people voted. The machines will be checked for accuracy by both Republican and Democrat election judges. Once more Jill Stein has no clue what she is doing or is just fleecing the donors.

http://www.jsonline.com/story/news/poli ... /94539210/

Unless Stein wins her lawsuit in Dane County Circuit Court, officials in each of Wisconsin’s 72 counties would decide on their own whether to do their recounts by hand. That could mean some counties perform recounts by machine and some by hand.

Citing the results of a 2011 statewide recount that changed only 300 votes, Elections Commission chairman Mark Thomsen, a Democrat, said this presidential recount is very unlikely to change Republican Donald Trump's win in the state.

"It may not be 22,177," said Thomsen, referring to Trump's win over Democrat Hillary Clinton in the vote count. "But I don’t doubt that the president-elect is going to win that."

Thomsen dismissed Stein's claims of problems with the vote as unfounded and misleading. But he directed his toughest criticism to Trump's unsupported allegations that millions of people voted illegally nationwide, calling them "an insult to the people that run our elections."

The commission is made up of three Democrats and three Republicans. It adopted the recount plans unanimously.

[Cog]

On a different note, when I was a Republican poll watcher in Illinois in both early voting and on election day, I spent some time talking to the county technician who emptied the paper ballots out of the machine and fixed them when they broke down. I asked him specificially if anyone could re-program the machines to read differently. His reply was no, that no one could do so at his level or at any state level. The machines are ran through tests to make sure the filled in bubbles are read correctly. The machines themselves are not connected to the internet in any way.

Now if you want to believe that hundreds of KGB agents snuck into county courthouses and city halls where the machines are stored, and changed the machines right before the vote, then of course I will doubt your sanity.