by ralfy » Fri 09 Sep 2016, 21:32:13
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ibon', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ennui2', 'T')hat's why a lot of this sentiment is simply the fantasy we have of using the MSM as our own personal ideological mouthpiece (ala Network).
The fantasy for me goes much deeper than each individual's subjective interpretation of truth and reality. What I am trying to address is that when any of us claim dysfunction from any of our major institutions; media, government, religions, economic system, etc.... what lies underneath this claim is that our dilemma is still fixable with enlightened understanding.
What is fixable has two components as I see it. The first one is to get everyone to agree and find consensus about what is the priority of truth and reality we need to address. What you mentioned. Let's take Newfie's suggestions. Do any of us here dispute this. Probably not really. To get the greater consensus of all world governments to agree? Is this probable? Realistic? I think it is close to impossible now. Not in the future. But now yes, highly highly improbable.
The second component is then executing the necessary changes to address over population and consumption. Just like there are 1000 interpretations of truth and reality there would be 1000 interpretations of how this should be executed. Equitably? Do we only address birth rates or recognize increasing the death rates in reference to over population. On consumption how would we execute a global moratorium or a set of limits or guidelines on which individual or which nation gets allocated how much resources?
Why do I bring this up? behind every boogyman we claim as the culprit; the MSM, BAU, Capitalism, Neo cons, Koch brothers, civilization, agriculture, bla bla bla bla,,,,, We do not look much beyond the short term horizon of naming and blaming and go beyond that and then work through the scenarios of executing the necessary changes.
Of course I opened this dialogue because you all know where I am eventually heading.
This is not fixable with human agency this late in the game. Not without external consequences.
Every couple of months I will jump in here to remind us all of this once again.
Back to pinning my bugs.
The catch is that overpopulation and overconsumption took place because of the "bogeyman" capitalism.
Also, the problems cannot be resolved because of the same external consequences.