[ennui2]

You may have been in tech before you took the red pill but since then you've totally lost touch out in the land of redwoods and schmokin' weed. So no, not impressed. Wake me when you write the next Amazon Echo on your rusty 8088.

[ennui2]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', '
')what technology, what computer processor/system do you envision that has the capacity to see and navigate down a street in the rain and snow? Or at night? Or beyond the single map (ie off grid) that Google created several years ago?

[Tanada]

While I believe it is possible AI might at some point in the next decade make some sort of break through allowing true autopilot systems for vehicles that doesn't mean there will be either overnight acceptance, nor fleet wide adoption. Heck a cruise control to maintain a set speed was invented in the 1970's, yet many models of cars and light trucks built even today do not have such a device.

Or you can take the top down approach and require all vehicle models to install real autopilots on even the lowest economy level models. For that example look at air bags, first tested in the 1970's in luxury models mandated for front seat passengers in all car models in 1998. Now in 2016 the number of pre-1998 models still in regular use is a small percentage of the total passenger vehicle fleet, but the change over took the better part of 20 years, and it was not without its troubles along the way.

What I suspect to happen goes more like this, the federal expressway system will institute clear lane marker systems that will allow thoroughly sensor equipped models to stay in their own lane and maintain a safe distance from all the other vehicles on the expressway. But for rural roads or even city streets where local governments are lax on even fixing potholes? Just not a practical possibility.

[ennui2]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', '
')The folks who lost lots of money on 17th century tulips also considered themselves brilliant.

[ennui2]

Meanwhile, out in the real-world rather than the endless rhetorical battles between those with huge axes to grind...

http://electrek.co/2016/07/21/tesla-aut ... strian-dc/

[Outcast_Searcher]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ennui2', 'M')eanwhile, out in the real-world rather than the endless rhetorical battles between those with huge axes to grind...

http://electrek.co/2016/07/21/tesla-aut ... strian-dc/

[ennui2]

Sorry, PStarr, this is gonna happen one way or another. So warm up your keyboard so you can rant and rave about the FORD killing machine.

http://www.theverge.com/2016/8/16/12504 ... aring-2021

Doesn't have quite the same satisfaction as nut-busting a techno-optimist like Musk, huh?

CHEERS

[vox_mundi]

33 Corporations Working On Autonomous Vehicles

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... Companies leading the charge on the driverless car race say they will be safer and more efficient than cars driven by humans.

One automotive firm, Volvo, has pledged to make all of its new cars "deathproof" by 2020, according to CNN.

[ennui2]

So PStarr? How does it feel to be wrong on the internet? Maybe think twice about sharing your opinions about technology when you turned your back on it around the time the 286 came out? You're a little out of touch, dude. Stick with dead-walrus selfies.

[vox_mundi]

Uber to use autonomous cars to haul people in next few weeks

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Uber spent years amassing an army of 1 million drivers around the world. Now its CEO says it wants to “wean” customers off of those very drivers.

Beginning this month, the ride-sharing company will begin deploying self-driving cars — equipped with cameras, lasers and GPS systems — to pick up passengers in downtown Pittsburgh, Bloomberg Businessweek reports. The custom Volvo SUVs will offer free introductory rides and, at least for now, be supervised by engineers in the driver’s seat.

The high-tech ride-hailing company said Thursday that an unspecified number of autonomous Ford Fusions with human backup drivers will pick up passengers just like normal Uber vehicles. Riders will be able to opt in if they want a self-driving car, and rides will be free to those willing to do it, spokesman Matt Kallman said.

With this pilot program Uber is testing a rudimentary version of its final vision for self-driving cars: to replace its one million plus human drivers.

"When there's no other dude in the car, the cost of taking an Uber anywhere becomes cheaper than owning a vehicle. So the magic there is, you basically bring the cost below the cost of ownership for everybody, and then car ownership goes away," Kalanick said at the Code Conference in 2014, shortly after Google unveiled its self-driving car prototype.

The announcement was one of three made by Uber that accelerate the company's quest to provide autonomous taxis to the public worldwide. It's also the latest tie-up between Silicon Valley, ride-hailing firms and major automakers.

The San Francisco company announced a $300 million deal for Volvo to provide SUVs to Uber for autonomous vehicle research. Eventually the Volvo SUVs will be part of the self-driving fleet in Pittsburgh. Volvo will develop base vehicles for research and both companies will develop autonomous vehicles on their own.

Uber also announced that it is acquiring a self-driving startup called Otto that has developed technology allowing big rigs to drive themselves.

... In the long run, prices will fall so low that the per-mile cost of travel, even for long trips in rural areas, will be cheaper in a driverless Uber than in a private car. “That could be seen as a threat,” says Volvo Cars CEO Hakan Samuelsson. “We see it as an opportunity.”

[ennui2]

Stop labeling discussion "stalking" If you don't want to interact with people, stop posting and be happy hiding out in the THC-infused haven of your redwood curtain.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
')The articles are PR pieces filled with nothing.

[yellowcanoe]

Autopilot functionality has been provided on larger aircraft for at least the last 50 years and it greatly reduces the workload of the flight crew. However, we still get crashes where the autopilot has for some reason partially or completely stopped flying the plane and the flight crew fail to step in and correctly fly the aircraft manually. A self driving car is a much more complex concept than an aircraft autopilot so I would expect it will be far more common for the self driving system to give up and pass control off to the human driver. How well is that going to work out? Remember that your average car driver doesn't have the level of training and experience that a commercial pilot is going to have. Airline pilots also do simulator training on various types of problem situations because that is where it is most important for the flight crew to be able to quickly identify what is wrong and take the correct actions to fly the plane manually.

[StarvingLion]

All this tech crap (Energy Transition, personal "computing" devices to "store" "cash", autopilot vehicles, automation,etc) is for the billionaires to fucking kill 8+ billion people otherwise everyone will die due to ecological and materials shortages collapse.

The energy transition (solar, wind, batteries, hvdc, auto pilot vehicles, automated supply chain, etc) makes perfect sense for the ultra rich. Its highly redundant, requires few specialised operating staff, not easily sabotaged, automated, etc. No wonder they hate nuclear and its associated labor...too many smart people along for the ride to disrupt the plan. The energy transition is not about saving the 8 billion+ people in the oil based system from collapse, but instead for the rich to survive the ecological and materials shortage collapse by killing them off with a minimum of collateral damage.

Think of it as building a worldwide reverse Hitlers bunker where the mission is for about 50 million billionaires+ to slowly pull the economic plug on 8 billion and watch them die off.. without killing themselves off in the process. The winners are in the bunkers this time around.

When some go nuts and try to tear it down, its too hard to do.

[StarvingLion]

The Internet of Things is a 8 BILLION PEOPLE DEATH CAMP with no ovens or smokestacks.

85% of new money last year went into 10 tech stocks. The tech communists steal everything and the dumbass fanbois worship them like gods.

You don't have to drive a car, you don't have to do industrial labor, you don't have to go to the store to buy something, you don't have to understand the monetary system, you don't have to understand industrial engineering, you don't have to do anything BECAUSE THE TECH BILLIONAIRES LOVE YOU.

Its a massive disenfranchisement system.

What kind of retard thinks they are empowering themselves putting solar panels on their roofs? Or AutoPilot? The entire point of AI autonomous is TO GET RID OF YOU (DEATH).