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Re: Antibiotic resistance: World on cusp of 'post-antibiotic

Postby vox_mundi » Wed 18 May 2016, 21:14:34

Superbugs will 'kill every three seconds' by 2050

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')b]Superbugs will kill someone every three seconds by 2050 unless the world acts now, a hugely influential report says.

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The problem is that we are simply not developing enough new antibiotics and we are wasting the ones we have.

Since the Review on Antimicrobial Resistance started in mid-2014, more than one million people have died from such infections.

And in that time doctors also discovered bacteria that can shrug off the drug of last resort - colistin - leading to warnings that the world was teetering on the cusp of a "post-antibiotic era".

The review says the situation will get only worse with 10 million people predicted to die every year from resistant infections by 2050.

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Lord Jim O'Neill, the economist who led the global review, told the BBC: "We need to inform in different ways, all over the world, why it's crucial we stop treating our antibiotics like sweets.

"If we don't solve the problem we are heading to the dark ages, we will have a lot of people dying.

http://amr-review.org/
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Re: Antibiotic resistance: World on cusp of 'post-antibiotic

Postby Newfie » Wed 18 May 2016, 21:42:31

We haven't done squat about climate change or over population.

I betting we won't do squat about this.

(But then again not doing squat about this IS dealing with over population.) :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Antibiotic resistance: World on cusp of 'post-antibiotic

Postby vox_mundi » Thu 26 May 2016, 15:16:22

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Newfie', 'W')e haven't done squat about climate change or over population. I betting we won't do squat about this.

(But then again - not doing squat about this IS dealing with over population.) :lol: :lol: :lol:

Ooh! That's a Bingo!

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The SuperBug That Doctors Have Been Dreading Just Reached the U.S.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')b]For the first time, researchers have found a person in the United States carrying a bacteria resistant to antibiotics of last resort, an alarming development that the top U.S. public health official says could mean "the end of the road" for antibiotics.

The antibiotic-resistant strain was found last month in the urine of a 49-year-old Pennsylvania woman. Department of Defense researchers determined that carried a strain of E. coli resistant to the antibiotic colistin, according to a study published Thursday in Antimicrobial Agents and Chemotherapy, a publication of the American Society for Microbiology. The authors wrote that the discovery "heralds the emergence of a truly pan-drug resistant bacteria."

Colistin is the antibiotic of last resort for particularly dangerous types of superbugs, including a family of bacteria known as CRE, which health officials have dubbed "nightmare bacteria." In some instances, these superbugs kill up to 50 percent of patients who become infected. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has called CRE among the country's most urgent public health threats.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')t's the first time this colistin-resistant strain has been found in a person in the United States. Last November, public health officials around the globe reacted with alarm when Chinese and British researchers reported finding the colistin-resistant strain in pigs, raw pork meat and in a small number of people in China. The deadly strain was later discovered in Europe and elsewhere.

“It basically shows us that the end of the road isn’t very far away for antibiotics -- that we may be in a situation where we have patients in our intensive-care units, or patients getting urinary tract infections for which we do not have antibiotics,” CDC Director Tom Frieden in an interview Thursday.

“I’ve been there for TB patients. I’ve cared for patients for whom there are no drugs left. It is a feeling of such horror and helplessness,” Frieden added. “This is not where we need to be.”

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Scientists and public health officials have long warned that if the resistant bacteria continue to spread, it could seriously limit available treatment options. Routine operations could become deadly. Minor infections could become life-threatening crises. Pneumonia could be more and more difficult to treat.
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Re: Antibiotic resistance: World on cusp of 'post-antibiotic

Postby onlooker » Fri 27 May 2016, 16:14:21

Can you imagine the virulence of these Superbugs when even more people are malnourished and undernourished ie. starving. Or even just the fact that people in the US are also vulnerable because of poor diet and being over medicated and as Tanada said having already developed some antibiotic resistance from overusing antibiotics. Add to that how populated we are and how airplanes can bring any bug here or anywhere in little time and you have the makings of a Vast Pandemic. It would of course start in the very poor and overpopulated regions that have malnourished/undernourished people and little health infrastructure and spread from there.
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Re: Antibiotic resistance: World on cusp of 'post-antibiotic

Postby jedrider » Fri 27 May 2016, 21:42:16

Looks Bad.

The worst of a 1970's shag rug and a bacterium:

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Re: Antibiotic resistance: World on cusp of 'post-antibiotic

Postby vtsnowedin » Sat 28 May 2016, 00:59:11

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')I've been aware of this for 20 years, since reading Laurie Garrett's The Coming Plague.

They had Ms Garrett on Fox news today explaining the latest developments. She said her only real surprise was that it has taken this long for highly resistant strains to get to the USA.
Her recommendation was to stop all routine feeding of antibiotics to livestock.
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Re: Antibiotic resistance: World on cusp of 'post-antibiotic

Postby onlooker » Sat 28 May 2016, 03:01:34

What about ROUTINE antibiotics prescribed for humans. It seems any little cold or infection now warrants antibiotics, that may not be too wise.
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Re: Antibiotic resistance: World on cusp of 'post-antibiotic

Postby Tanada » Sat 28 May 2016, 07:58:44

You can expect a big uptick in child mortality rates in the USA. There are a number of diseases that used to kill 2-5 percent of children that are only treated with antibiotics because vaccines were never developed for them. Every one of them will sooner or later integrate the resistance to all known antibiotics into their genetic structure, at which point a lot more children will start dying every year.

Couple that with the anti-vaxxer crowd and it is going to be a sad time. Part of the reason humans are capable of having a dozen children is the death rate from childhood diseases used to routinely cut the number that reach adulthood in half. Add in accidents from cultures that did not bubble wrap and helicopter in to deal with every very small injury and even with a 8 children you might only have 2 survive to adulthood and pass on your genes.
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Re: Antibiotic resistance: World on cusp of 'post-antibiotic

Postby vox_mundi » Sat 28 May 2016, 08:45:01

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('onlooker', 'W')hat about ROUTINE antibiotics prescribed for humans. It seems any little cold or infection now warrants antibiotics, that may not be too wise.

Doctors have been told to refrain from over-prescribing antibiotics to their patients, meanwhile, livestock factory farms and feed lots continue to use them by the trainload.

Guess which ones gave more money to Congress.

The problem is global - people who stand to make a profit, place their interests ahead of the commons. And we allow our governments to sanction it.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Tanada', '.').. There are a number of diseases that used to kill 2-5 percent of children that are only treated with antibiotics because vaccines were never developed for them.

T - I think you're confusing bacteria (which antibiotics were developed for) with viruses (which vaccines were developed for).

They're two separate critters with completely different treatment regimens. Antibiotics don't work on viruses; vaccines don't work on bacteria.

Having said that, your outcomes will probably be similar.

Drug-resistant infections could lead to 10 million extra deaths a year – report

However, we would need global death rates to increase on the order of 100 million per year (for the next 50 years) to make even a small dent in overpopulation.
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Re: Antibiotic resistance: World on cusp of 'post-antibiotic

Postby Ibon » Sat 28 May 2016, 08:48:37

Our ability to overcome our natural predators, germs, was only ever a temporary phenomenon. The irony here is that this ability we achieved could have remained resilient for centuries. We abused the gift this technology gave us just like we abuse the biosphere that sustains us. It is irony because it was our own technology that developed anti biotics and then again our own inability to self regulate that is causing these anti biotics to become undermined.
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Re: Antibiotic resistance: World on cusp of 'post-antibiotic

Postby vox_mundi » Sat 28 May 2016, 08:50:45

Lack of self-control seems to be a species trait.
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Re: Antibiotic resistance: World on cusp of 'post-antibiotic

Postby Subjectivist » Sat 28 May 2016, 09:55:03

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vox_mundi', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('onlooker', 'W')hat about ROUTINE antibiotics prescribed for humans. It seems any little cold or infection now warrants antibiotics, that may not be too wise.

Doctors have been told to refrain from over-prescribing antibiotics to their patients, meanwhile, livestock factory farms and feed lots continue to use them by the trainload.

Guess which ones gave more money to Congress.

The problem is global - people who stand to make a profit, place their interests ahead of the commons. And we allow our governments to sanction it.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Tanada', '.').. There are a number of diseases that used to kill 2-5 percent of children that are only treated with antibiotics because vaccines were never developed for them.

T - I think you're confusing bacteria (which antibiotics were developed for) with viruses (which vaccines were developed for).

They're two separate critters with completely different treatment regimens. Antibiotics don't work on viruses; vaccines don't work on bacteria.

Having said that, your outcomes will probably be similar.

Drug-resistant infections could lead to 10 million extra deaths a year – report

However, we would need global death rates to increase on the order of 100 million per year (for the next 50 years) to make even a small dent in overpopulation.


There are at least six major childhood diseases caused by bacterial infection.
https://www.merckmanuals.com/home/child ... -childhood

https://www.hon.ch/Dossier/MotherChild/ ... eases.html

Catscratch fever, Strep throat, Cellulitus, Tuberculosis, Pertussis, Impetigo, Occult Bacteremia.
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Re: Antibiotic resistance: World on cusp of 'post-antibiotic

Postby Timo » Sat 28 May 2016, 10:20:13

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vox_mundi', 'D')octors have been told to refrain from over-prescribing antibiotics to their patients, meanwhile, livestock factory farms and feed lots continue to use them by the trainload.

Guess which ones gave more money to Congress.

The problem is global - people who stand to make a profit, place their interests ahead of the commons. And we allow our governments to sanction it.


Surprise! That's free market capitalism, sanctioned by free trade agreements that allow every nation to compete with the US of A at the lowest possible level.

Relax! The free market has never failed us yet. Give livestock factory farms bigger subsidies, and they'll create more jobs, filled by undocumented immigrants who will work for less than minimum wage with no health care. Let's gut the EPA, and the FDA, and OSHA! That will allow us to stock our supermarket shelves with diseased beef at the lowest possible price. Americans will be so happy with the decisions left to the private sector free market. What could possibly go wrong???
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Re: Antibiotic resistance: World on cusp of 'post-antibiotic

Postby Cid_Yama » Wed 01 Jun 2016, 20:06:44

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'J')ust 65 years ago, David Livermore's paternal grandmother died following an operation to remove her appendix. It didn't go well, but it was not the surgery that killed her. She succumbed to a series of infections that the pre-penicillin world had no drugs to treat. Welcome to the future.

The era of antibiotics is coming to a close. In just a couple of generations, what once appeared to be miracle medicines have been beaten into ineffectiveness by the bacteria they were designed to knock out. Once, scientists hailed the end of infectious diseases. Now, the post-antibiotic apocalypse is within sight.

Hyperbole? Unfortunately not. The highly serious journal Lancet Infectious Diseases yesterday posed the question itself over a paper revealing the rapid spread of multi-drug-resistant bacteria. "Is this the end of antibiotics?" it asked.

Doctors and scientists have not been complacent, but the paper by Professor Tim Walsh and colleagues takes the anxiety to a new level. Last September, Walsh published details of a gene he had discovered, called NDM 1, which passes easily between types of bacteria called enterobacteriaceae such as E. coli and Klebsiella pneumoniae and makes them resistant to almost all of the powerful, last-line group of antibiotics called carbapenems. Yesterday's paper revealed that NDM 1 is widespread in India and has arrived here as a result of global travel and medical tourism for, among other things, transplants, pregnancy care and cosmetic surgery.

"In many ways, this is it," Walsh tells me. "This is potentially the end. There are no antibiotics in the pipeline that have activity against NDM 1-producing enterobacteriaceae. We have a bleak window of maybe 10 years, where we are going to have to use the antibiotics we have very wisely, but also grapple with the reality that we have nothing to treat these infections with."

And this is the optimistic view – based on the assumption that drug companies can and will get moving on discovering new antibiotics to throw at the bacterial enemy. Since the 1990s, when pharma found itself twisting and turning down blind alleys, it has not shown a great deal of enthusiasm for difficult antibiotic research. And besides, because, unlike with heart medicines, people take the drugs for a week rather than life, and because resistance means the drugs become useless after a while, there is just not much money in it.

Dr Livermore, whose grandmother died for lack of infection-killing drugs in 1945, is director of the antibiotic resistance monitoring and reference laboratory of the Health Protection Agency. Last year, the HPA put out an alert to medical professionals about NDM 1, urging them to report all suspect cases. Livermore is far from sanguine about the future.

"A lot of modern medicine would become impossible if we lost our ability to treat infections," he says.

Antibiotics are vital to abdominal surgery. "You safeguard the patient from bacteria leaking into the body cavity," he says. "If you lose the ability to treat these infections, far more people would die of peritonitis." Appendix operations would carry the same risk as they did before Fleming discovered penicillin in 1928.

Studies have shown, he says, that the chances of dying from hospital pneumonia or septicaemia (blood poisoning) are twice as high if the bacteria are drug-resistant, rising in the case of pneumonia from 20-30% to 40-60%.

"There probably is some need for public education about infection and, for instance, kitchen hygiene when you are cooking. People of my generation were taught a lot about washing your hands before every meal. It was automatic that it was done. A lot of that has gone."

• Removing a burst appendix becomes a dangerous operation once again.

• Pneumonia becomes once more "the old man's friend", particularly among the old and frail, who would lapse into unconsciousness and often slip away in their sleep.

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$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')ntibiotic resistance, which can turn common ailments into killers, has reached dangerous levels globally, the World Health Organization warned Monday.

Antibiotic resistance happens when bugs become immune to existing drugs, allowing minor injuries and common infections to become deadly.

Chan pointed out that "super bugs haunt hospitals and intensive care units all around the world," warning that the world is heading into "a post-antibiotic era, in which common infections will once again kill."

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Re: Antibiotic resistance: World on cusp of 'post-antibiotic

Postby onlooker » Thu 02 Jun 2016, 19:44:32

You know I used to live in NY city for many years and when I would see and pass the huge skyscrapers, I used to think how impressive we are as a species, to what lofty heights figuratively and literally we have reached. Well, now I see the total chaos, havoc and disarray the world and human civilization is in and I now have a diametrically opposed view. I see we are just one more frail species trying to finding our niche in Nature. Unfortunately, our hubris has not allowed us to be prudent in using our gifts. So now as this thread indicates with this health prognosis along with the other threats and actualities occurring even now, we are being taught the tough lesson that nothing in Nature is guaranteed except death, atrophy and decay.
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Re: Antibiotic resistance: World on cusp of 'post-antibiotic

Postby Tanada » Thu 02 Jun 2016, 21:34:57

I predict that when the first child, probably a poor inner city kid, dies of antibiotic resistant Pertussis (whooping cough), it will set off a kind of alarm media firestorm like you have not yet seen in the USA. We like to believe childhood illnesses have been eliminated and are no longer a threat. It was only three generations ago, 75 years more or less, that a quarter of all children born in this country died before reaching adulthood from one disease or another.

The thing is, diseases like Pertussis that could be treated with antibiotics never had an effort put into immunization the same way the viral diseases like Small Pox and Rubella (German measles) did. The viral diseases got all the immunization work done precisely because they could not be treated with antibiotics that attack bacterial infections. The children who have been immunized will be safe from MMR (Mumps Measles and Rubella) and Varicella (chicken pox) and Polio, and even that rare bacteria that does have an immunization Scarlet Fever. But for all the other child hood bacterial diseases they will be defenseless, especially growing up in a culture that limits outdoor play and skinned knees as being too scary to contemplate.

Make no mistake, I do not want to see several million kids in this country catch bacterial diseases and die, but now that resistant bacteria have made it to our shores the time to develop vaccines is growing extremely short.
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Postby onlooker » Fri 03 Jun 2016, 05:58:41

"Make no mistake, I do not want to see several million kids in this country catch bacterial diseases and die, but now that resistant bacteria have made it to our shores the time to develop vaccines is growing extremely short." Yes, an elder people and sickly people also make up some of the vulnerable population. Combined with peak oil and lack of proper timely healthcare, good/balanced diet, medicine and we are looking at a pretty compelling case for premature die-off of the most vulnerable of society. All this seems to be coming up quite quickly upon society.
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Re: Antibiotic resistance: World on cusp of 'post-antibiotic

Postby evilgenius » Sat 04 Jun 2016, 11:09:02

There is another vector for the spread of resistance, nursing and other care homes. Antibiotics are poured down the gullets of the elderly like candy. Doctors are required to sign-off on the use, but the drugs are generally given at the discretion of the help taking care of the people, and not after careful deliberation. Guess what, the drains connected to these facilities go to the same places everybody else's drains go. People visit too, though not as often as the elderly probably would like. The help go in and out of these places. If you think there isn't any reason for the top-line antibiotics to come into play in your community you are probably wrong. They are probably about as common as a bowl full of miniature candy bars at Halloween time, just behind a set of walls very close to you.
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Re: Antibiotic resistance: World on cusp of 'post-antibiotic

Postby vox_mundi » Tue 07 Jun 2016, 13:05:41

Recent research uncovers surprises about antibiotic resistance

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It's thought that antibiotic resistance is associated with a fitness cost, meaning that bacteria that develop antibiotic resistance must sacrifice something in order to do so. Because of this, proper use of antibiotics should result in susceptible strains eventually replacing resistant ones.

According to recent research, though, it appears that this paradigm might not be as solid as previously thought. In fact, antibiotic-resistant strains might also be fitter and more virulent, which may have profound impacts on the control and treatment of bacterial infections.

There was an ancient paradigm about the 'fitness cost of antibiotic resistance,' but the emergence of the new technologies of high-throughput sequencing has changed the field, allowing researchers to study bacterial pathogenesis at the genome scale," said Dr. David Skurnik, senior author of a new Bioessays article. "This new, unbiased approached has revealed that unfortunately the worst case scenario of antibiotic resistant bacteria being more fit and virulent was not uncommon, particularly during infection."

The situation complicates our fight against antibiotic resistance. "We need now, more than ever before, new antibacterial therapeutics to by-pass the infernal circle linked to antibiotic resistance that starts when an antibiotic is over-prescribed," Dr. Skurnik stressed.

Thomas Guillard et al, Antibiotic resistance and virulence: Understanding the link and its consequences for prophylaxis and therapy, BioEssays (2016).

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Re: Antibiotic resistance: World on cusp of 'post-antibiotic

Postby onlooker » Tue 07 Jun 2016, 13:53:58

I am wondering if this information on this thread can be extrapolated to claim that this situation will make a world-wide Pandemic much more likely as more vulnerable sickly people will be around and also a particularly virulent bacteria can arise from all this dramatic evolution in resistant bacteria that can be the ONE to initiate a Pandemic?
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