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How much longer can this oil glut last?

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Re: How much longer can this oil glut last?

Unread postby ennui2 » Sun 17 Jan 2016, 15:09:09

Most peace on the world stage is held together only by a mutual aversion to war while both sides hold onto long-standing resentment. You see this in US china and US russian relations, for instance. But it's also true of many ME countries, which is why a lot of what passes for unity is just countries trying to bind together on the basis of "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" (i.e. hating on Israel or the US). Without their chosen whipping boys, they'd turn their knives inward. It's the same sort of stuff going on with Trump's xenophobic rhetoric. An insecure populace is all too easily led as long as you construct a suitable external threat. It a simplistic and comforting thought, but ultimately silly to assume that the US pulling back into a strict isolationist stance would result in peace in the middle-east.
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Re: How much longer can this oil glut last?

Unread postby Plantagenet » Sun 17 Jan 2016, 20:28:49

Exxon and Anardarko have just announced that two new large oilfields are just coming on line and beginning production now. It seems nutso to be bringing new oilfields into production now in the middle of an oil glut, but it takes 5-6 years to bring an oilfield into production, and this is the culmination of work begun 5-6 years ago.

While not as big a deal as Iran coming into the the world market, these two new oilfields will add another 200,000-300,000 bbls/day to global oil production, making the oil glut even worse.

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Re: How much longer can this oil glut last?

Unread postby Plantagenet » Sun 17 Jan 2016, 21:19:28

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', 'D')id you actually read the article?


Of course I did---in fact if you'd think about it you'd realize that I even wrote a post about and I linked to it.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', 'I') attempted but as it is behind pay walls it was rather difficult.


There was no paywall. There was a pop-up ad, but I've got an ad-blocker running. Folks like you who don't know enough about computers to run adblockers just had to click on an "x" to make the pop-up ad go away.

Do you really not know the difference between a pop-up ad and a paywall? Sheesh!

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', 'M')y quick glance revealed nothing like 200,000-300,000 bbls/day.


Thats because your reading comprehension skills are too limited for you to understand what you read. The article says

"Arkutun-Dagi is the last of the three neighboring fields to be developed in the Sakhalin-1 project. The other two are Chayvo, which began production in 2005, and Odoptu, which has been producing oil since 2010. Together the three fields will produce more than 200,000 barrels of oil per day.

Now if you understand math, which you don't, you would've realized that when the article says the field will produce more than 200,000 bbls of day it means some value in excess of 200,000 bbls/day. That value is unspecified, so I wrote 200,000-300,000 bbls/day because its clearly more than 200,000 bbls, but the upper limit isn't defined in the article and I thought 300,000 bbls/day was a safe upper limit. Little did I know that people like you wouldn't be able to understand even that little bit of math. :lol:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', ' ')at least I didn't make stuff up.


Of course you did.

You made up a ridiculous accusation that I didn't read the article I posted about and linked to, and you made up a silly claim that these fields won't produce more than 200,000 bbls/day when the article clearly says the production is going to be north of 200,000 bbls.

Get it now?

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Re: How much longer can this oil glut last?

Unread postby Plantagenet » Sun 17 Jan 2016, 21:35:29

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', '[')color=#0000FF]200,000-300,000 bbls/day., Together the three fields will produce more than 200,000 barrels of oil per day, will produce more than 200,000 bbls of day it means some value in excess of 200,000 bbls/day, 200,000-300,000 bbls/day, 200,000 bbls, 300,000 bbls/day, 200,000 bbls/day when the article clearly says the production is going to be north of 200,000 bbls.[/color]

Get it now?

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You can repeat that number until you turn blue in the face, but you know as well as I do the figure refers to past, assumed, and future production and will have little or no bearing on the current glut.


Are you stoned again Peter?

Your first post on this topic didn't make a bit of sense, and this one is equally incoherent.

The article I linked to clearly says these new fields are coming online now and bringing over 200,000 bbls/day of new oil production to an already glutted oil market.

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Re: How much longer can this oil glut last?

Unread postby kublikhan » Sun 17 Jan 2016, 21:41:06

That story was from last year:
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Re: How much longer can this oil glut last?

Unread postby ennui2 » Sun 17 Jan 2016, 22:17:30

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Re: How much longer can this oil glut last?

Unread postby Cog » Sun 17 Jan 2016, 23:19:03

Since it happens so often pstarr is probably used to it. Sort of like a battered wife.
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Re: How much longer can this oil glut last?

Unread postby Plantagenet » Sun 17 Jan 2016, 23:57:28

Here's a curious one....

US Government pledges to help fund 18 billion dollar oil pipeline needed for Kenyan oil exports

Kenya-Hoping-to-Export-Oil-Despite-Global-Downturn

Strange how, even in an oil glut, the US government is doing everything it can including paying part of the bill for Kenya's oil pipeline, especially since the US govermrent delayed and then blocked the Canadians from building the Keystone Pipeline from Canada to the US.

I guess its OK for Kenya to export oil during an oil glut, but not for Canada for export oil doing an oil glut?
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Re: How much longer can this oil glut last?

Unread postby ennui2 » Mon 18 Jan 2016, 01:30:41

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', '
')promises for oil production that never showed.


Is that the best depletion argument you can make right now? Like the world needs more oil right now?
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Re: How much longer can this oil glut last?

Unread postby GregT » Mon 18 Jan 2016, 01:35:27

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ennui2', 'A')n insecure populace is all too easily led as long as you construct a suitable external threat.


Careful Ennui2, keep talking conspiracy stuff like that, and that little tinfoil patch will soon grow into a full blown tinfoil hat.

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Re: How much longer can this oil glut last?

Unread postby GregT » Mon 18 Jan 2016, 02:05:03

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', 'I') guess its OK for Kenya to export oil during an oil glut, but not for Canada for export oil doing an oil glut?


I thought you were all in a tizzy about the exploding oil trains exporting all of that oil from Canada to the US planter? Or have you forgotten about them already?
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Re: How much longer can this oil glut last?

Unread postby sparky » Mon 18 Jan 2016, 04:57:20

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I'm a bit puzzled the oil and gas article mention some industry numbers

Arkutun-Dagi
"Once it hits its stride, the company said, it is expected to produce 90,000 barrels a day."

Lucius deepwater
"ultimately ( ? ) will generate 80,000 barrels of oil a day."

that's amount to 170.000 barrels "ultimately " !!?

It's nice but very much less than the numbers tossed around
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Re: How much longer can this oil glut last?

Unread postby Cog » Mon 18 Jan 2016, 07:56:44

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('GregT', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', 'I') guess its OK for Kenya to export oil during an oil glut, but not for Canada for export oil doing an oil glut?


I thought you were all in a tizzy about the exploding oil trains exporting all of that oil from Canada to the US planter? Or have you forgotten about them already?
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Re: How much longer can this oil glut last?

Unread postby Plantagenet » Mon 18 Jan 2016, 08:04:42

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', '.')....outdated promises for oil production that never showed.


Dude---We're in an oil glut

Your claim that oil production "never showed" is silly :lol:
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Re: How much longer can this oil glut last?

Unread postby Plantagenet » Mon 18 Jan 2016, 08:41:20

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('GregT', '
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you were ..in a tizzy about the exploding oil trains exporting ..oil from Canada to the US ...


Right-o. And you Support the use of oil trains that explode and kill people. We've already had that discussion.

I don't see much room for compromise there----We'll just have to disagree on this one

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