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THE Terror / Terrorism Thread pt 4 (merged)

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Re: War on Terrorism = false flag

Unread postby Plantagenet » Mon 23 Nov 2015, 22:49:50

I'm glad you like it. I thought M would be OK with it since the six-sided star is common in Muslim Mosques. Since Islam forbids any kind of imagery, decorations in Mosques usually consists of artistic electric lights, giant writing that says things like "Allah is Supreme" over and over again, and a huge variety of geometric patterns, including six sided stars.

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Re: War on Terrorism = false flag

Unread postby ennui2 » Thu 26 Nov 2015, 10:49:57

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cog', '
')I'm not going to completely discount Islam's desire to impress their religion on everyone else in the world. That is their goal. But their ability to do so would have been lessened had we not interfered so much in the ME.


It would also have been lessened had ME petro states diversified their economies rather than living and dying by oil alone. Oil is SOLD by the middle east, not stolen.
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Re: War on Terrorism = false flag

Unread postby PrestonSturges » Thu 26 Nov 2015, 11:12:04

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Re: War on Terrorism = false flag

Unread postby Cog » Thu 26 Nov 2015, 11:35:49

Islam is not consistent with Western democracy and values.
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Re: War on Terrorism = false flag

Unread postby Newfie » Thu 26 Nov 2015, 11:46:58

It's not about our values.

It's about two different cultures.

Their culture is absolutely self assured of their own righteousness and God given right to act as they have, to kill us.

While we are content (well maybe a little) to let them be in own little box we disagreed they have the right to kill us.

Some of us are absolutely self assure of our right to kill them first, given their stance.

Others seem to think we can rehabilitate them and train them to our
Western ideals. But Western ideals seems to be what they are revolting against in the first place.

Yes I know we have made a lot of mistakes and are part of the problem. But the questions is, what do we do tomorrow? If we, or our culture, is not alive then ?????
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Re: War on Terrorism = false flag

Unread postby Cog » Thu 26 Nov 2015, 13:07:20

Sharia law is not consistent with democracy or the basic human values of being left alone to conduct your affairs in the way you see fit. Want to sleep in on Sunday instead of worshipping a deity? Its cool with me. Its not cool with them to be an atheist or agnostic regarding the Islamic faith. If my daughter wants to wear a bikini instead of a burkha, that should be her decision, not an Islamic policeman.

The right to be left alone is one of the most basic human rights a person can have.
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Re: War on Terrorism = false flag

Unread postby PrestonSturges » Thu 26 Nov 2015, 14:18:04

The GOP is pinning all their hopes on terrorism. Terrorists need fear and publicity, and the GOP lives to publicize terrorism and make people afraid.

Here's an article about how badly ISIS wants a ground war with the US, a point which many people are making. Of course the GOP is always ready to follow the orders of terrorists.

http://extragoodshit.phlap.net/index.php/how-the-islamic-states-favorite-strategy-book-explains-recent-terrorist-attacks/#more-327426

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'N')aji acknowledges that fighting in the open and taking territory makes jihadists extremely vulnerable to attack by powerful nations. But the jihadists are not powerless. They can carry out “vexation operations” against their enemies where they live. The attacks will compel their enemies to disperse their forces to deal with multiple attacks in multiple places, thus alleviating pressure on nascent jihadist states. Such attacks have additional benefits: They deplete the financial resources of one’s enemy, especially if it invades with a large ground force; they remove the enemy’s aura of invincibility that discourages Muslims from rising up; they stir Muslim anger in the aftermath of inevitable reprisals by the foreign powers; and they boost the morale of the jihadists and attract more recruits to their cause.
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Re: War on Terrorism = false flag

Unread postby davep » Thu 26 Nov 2015, 15:27:59

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'S')haria law is not consistent with democracy


Sharia law can be implemented when over 50% of the population is Muslim. It is in fact a twisted version of democracy (i.e. majority rule).
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Re: War on Terrorism = false flag

Unread postby ennui2 » Fri 27 Nov 2015, 09:16:25

Label it however you want. I wouldn't want to live under it.

And let's also face the fact that muslim breeding habits play a role in this. Religion spreads like a virus, and that's why religion can't endorse birth-controls.
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Re: War on Terrorism = false flag

Unread postby onlooker » Fri 27 Nov 2015, 09:22:35

Religion was set up as a way to control and divide the masses. So it is of no surprise that religions invoke mindless obedience and conflict with other religions and groups. I wish someday humanity would just be spiritual without any particular structure or affiliation involved.
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Re: War on Terrorism = false flag

Unread postby ROCKMAN » Fri 27 Nov 2015, 13:57:28

Well the Saudi govt certainly doesn't have a problem dealing with terrorists:

RIYADH, Nov 26 (Reuters) - Saudi Arabia plans to execute more than 50 people convicted of terrorism in what appears to be a warning to would-be jihadists. Fifty-five people were awaiting execution for "terrorist crimes" that killed more than 100 civilians and 71 security personnel. Some of those facing execution were affiliated with al Qaeda, Okaz said. Others are from Awamiya, a largely Shi'ite town in the oil-producing Eastern Province where the government has suppressed demonstrations for equal rights. Awamiya residents responded to the news by closing off roads leading into the city with burning debris, local activists said.
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Re: War on Terrorism = false flag

Unread postby Whitefang » Sun 29 Nov 2015, 16:23:48

Yup, amazing that such a tiny elite could mislead a massive amount of people in the Western empire, by selling insane stories over and over again, excellent propaganda.
Check out the enormous archive of Mr Jones, he is just linking newspaper parts together, not so much making things up.
Books written by proffesor on 911 stupidity, counting 400 plus things that are wrong, one of the ringleaders, a mastermind Lucky Larry S. confessing on ABC telly he made the decision to pull building 7 on 911.
The judges rewarded him with billions instead of putting him to death for crimes against humanity and treason.

I stopped tracking our corrupt powers that be, west, east or south......let them be, they will not be around for long.
Too late to change course, alike abrupt CC.

I would not count on intitutes for help, we will be on our own very soon, years.
The thing to do is prepare for you and your family to leave town before the SHTF.

https://www.darkmoon.me/2013/will-larry ... n-barrett/

If one has not been enlightened on the false flag issue the last decades...plenty links/info on the net of worldly power turned corrupt.
Not that it matters, personal power is the one that makes one succeed in being free.
Freedom of fear, ambition and an internal dialogue that keeps us pinned down in this bubble, a manageable world of nonsense. A world to keep us docile and calm, preventing us to reach our full potential, making us weak and retarded. The ultimate conspiracy, a matrix without machines.
That is Jihad, the internal war between body/mind and your true feelings, a luminous body without mass living a seperate life, true power and link with the Spirit.

Onlooker, your wish has already come true! Hallalujah!!!!

To reach and find the Spirit people save up personal power by impeccability, the right use of energy that leads to freedom without an institute or teacher.
Life as we know it is an excersize, a strategy of energy, dethrone self importance and pity, change habits, routines that keep you grounded for life. Just you and your death to remind you to be sober and detached. To want to know.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'R')eligion was set up as a way to control and divide the masses. So it is of no surprise that religions invoke mindless obedience and conflict with other religions and groups. I wish someday humanity would just be spiritual without any particular structure or affiliation involved.


Just one of the 911 mysteries:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he question on everyone’s mind is: Why is Silverstein claiming that airliners destroyed his buildings, when he has already confessed to demolishing at least one of them himself? In the 2002 PBS documentary “America Rebuilds,” Silverstein admitted to complicity in the controlled demolition of WTC-7, a 47-story skyscraper that dropped into its own footprint in 6.5 seconds.
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Re: War on Terrorism = false flag

Unread postby Cid_Yama » Sun 29 Nov 2015, 23:59:15

The REAL Sharia law that this Sharia nonsense is all about.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')slamic banking (Arabic: مصرفية إسلامية‎) is banking or banking activity that is consistent with the principles of sharia (Islamic law) and its practical application through the development of Islamic economics. As such, a more correct term for Islamic banking is sharia compliant finance.[1]

Sharia prohibits acceptance of specific interest or fees for loans of money (known as riba, or usury), whether the payment is fixed or floating. Investment in businesses that provide goods or services considered contrary to Islamic principles (e.g. pork or alcohol) is also haraam ("sinful and prohibited"). Although these prohibitions have been applied historically in varying degrees in Muslim countries/communities to prevent unIslamic practices, only in the late 20th century were a number of Islamic banks formed to apply these principles to private or semi-private commercial institutions within the Muslim community.[2][3]

As of 2014, sharia compliant financial institutions represented approximately 1% of total world assets.[4] By 2009, there were over 300 banks and 250 mutual funds around the world complying with Islamic principles[5] and as of 2014 total assets of around $2 trillion were sharia-compliant.[6] According to Ernst & Young, although Islamic Banking still makes up only a fraction of the banking assets of Muslims,[7] it has been growing faster than banking assets as a whole, growing at an annual rate of 17.6% between 2009 and 2013, and is projected to grow by an average of 19.7% a year to 2018.[6]

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It is Sharia Banking that TPTB are worried about. INTEREST FREE LOANS in the form of partnerships between the banks and businesses that benefit the community.

It has been growing rapidly, and the concept threatens the very existence of Western Banking.
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Re: War on Terrorism = false flag

Unread postby Cid_Yama » Mon 30 Nov 2015, 00:03:39

Ask Cog what Sharia law is and he won't be able to tell you without looking it up, or spouting the drivel they have been pumping into the heads of the weak minded.

All they have been told is it is scary and will destroy their way of life. And that is all TPTB want them to know and repeat ad nauseum.
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Re: War on Terrorism = false flag

Unread postby Cid_Yama » Mon 30 Nov 2015, 00:21:23

And as for the Religious Right, the stick up their angus is this:

Islam projected to be world's largest religion by 2070
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'M')uslims will outnumber Christians by 2070, ending two millenniums of Christian dominance going back to the birth of Jesus Christ, projections released Thursday by the Pew Research Center show.

Islam is projected to grow more than twice as fast as any other major religion over the next half century because of a higher fertility rate. While Christianity will remain a dominant global religion, it will lose majority religious status in countries such as the United Kingdom, France and Australia.

Such a dramatic change raises questions about whether global conflicts between radical Muslim groups and Western nations with Christian majorities will become more inflamed in the decades ahead.

The world's two largest religions will be near parity by 2050. Christians are predicted to be 31.4% of the planet's population vs. 29.7% who follow Islam, researchers say. Christians made up the same 31.4% in 2010; Muslims 23.2%.

"We can be quite confident that Muslims are going to grow rapidly in the decades ahead," said Conrad Hackett, demographer and lead author of the report.

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Bet most Christians thought they were well over 50%.

Sharia law as stated by the right is nonsense. Women wear normal clothes in Dubai, An Islamic country. Most women don't wear burkas in most Islamic nations. There are Islamic nations all over the world who's culture is not that of the Middle East.

This is a case of ignorance and bigotry allowing nonsense to stand.
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Re: War on Terrorism = false flag

Unread postby Cog » Mon 30 Nov 2015, 00:37:48

Sharia law mandates the forced conversion or death of the apostate. Basically anyone who is not a Muslim. Enjoy your beheading Cid.

There are people with the death sentence right now in Pakistan and Iran right now for various "crimes" against Islam such as criticism of the Prophet, (Blessed be his child-raping name) and apostasy of various types.

Perhaps Cid would enjoy such a legal system coming to the USA but I doubt it.
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Re: War on Terrorism = false flag

Unread postby Cid_Yama » Mon 30 Nov 2015, 00:56:26

Bull Shit. Islam as practiced by the majority is a non-violent religion.

Islam is just another religion alongside other religions in the non-Western world. Just as it was here before TPTB started their anti-Islam campaign.

All because of the growing popularity and threat from Sharia Banking.

Also, then Prince Salman, sent a letter to President Bush days before 9/11, saying their two countries needed to go their separate ways, and that American troops that had been in Saudi Arabia for the last decade in an unofficial occupation must leave immediately.

No coincidence that most of those attackers on 9/11 were Saudi.

Directing the anger against ALL muslims was a good way to cover the fact that the nation that attacked us was Saudi Arabia.

And that is what is blacked out in the Congressional Report on 9/11. The big secret. We went to war against Iraq under the pretense, knowing full well it was Saudi Arabia.
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Re: War on Terrorism = false flag

Unread postby SeaGypsy » Mon 30 Nov 2015, 01:02:59

Cid has an angle & it deserves consideration.

Reasons for giving a hoot about what happens in the ME compared to elsewhere genocidal maniacs abound are very few. IS campaign of sponsoring global terrorism is either very stupid or a sham- certain to bring fire on their quasi- Kalifa. The process makes little sense. Surely they would have done better to play along with their sponsors & wind up with at least an Orthodox Sunni homeland in Northern Iraq & Syria. By trying to kill off the Alawites & suicide missions around the world they have written their own failure.

Being possibly the most illogical & insane war of all time, we should be looking for subtext. Most western Muslims are politically at least affectively secular. They have a lot of kids & they are getting wealthier. Sharia banking is possibly the easiest to sell aspect of Sharia. The more it grows the more potential it has for market share & in an age of dwindle, the loan shark economy would be very concerned.

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Re: War on Terrorism = false flag

Unread postby Cid_Yama » Mon 30 Nov 2015, 01:30:32

You might ask, Why attack Iraq then?

For decades we felt we needed a strategic foothold in the Middle East. When the Saudis hired us to kick Saddam out of Kuwait, they gave us bases to do it from.

Afterwards, we ignored all their requests to leave. Thus, the beginning of attacks on US personnel, culminating in the Khobar Towers bombing. (There were also a couple of other residential compounds hit.)

After 9/11, it was clear we could no longer stay in Saudi Arabia, the point was made. Thus the attack on Iraq. Our new strategic foothold in the Middle East.

That is why they constructed bases as if we intended to stay. We did.

Saudi Arabia was not pleased. We toppled a Sunni led government in Iraq. And so began the funding of the resistance to the US occupation of Iraq, and the beginnings of ISIS.

And not just Saudi Arabia. A coalition of Sunni states, including Qatar and Kuwait, formed to provide funding.

It wasn't Iran. Iran couldn't be happier. We established the Shiites in power and took out their old nemesis. We increased their power in the region.

But we were dependent on the Sunni nations for our oil, our supposed allies, and after Iraq's 2nd largest oil reserves, came Iran's 3rd largest, and we would need an excuse. Unfortunately for us, the real world doesn't play like a game of Risk.
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Re: War on Terrorism = false flag

Unread postby Plantagenet » Mon 30 Nov 2015, 02:00:18

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('SeaGypsy', ' ')IS campaign of sponsoring global terrorism is either very stupid or a sham- certain to bring fire on their quasi- Kalifa. The process makes little sense.


Actually it makes perfect sense. According to Islamic prophecy, the Moslem Caliphate will triumph and rule the world after a great victory over all the armies of the world. This battle is supposed to occur near Raqqa Syia. That prophecy is why the Caliphate choose Raqqa for its capital. The Moslems in the Caliphate believe that are living out that prophecy and that Allah is working his magic to bring about the battle between all the armies of the world and the Caliphate. Every time another country joins in the attack on them it simply confirms the prophecy.

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