[ralfy]

Only a fraction of the world's population belongs to the middle class, and the only way members of the middle class can maintain their living standards is to sell more goods and services to growing consumer markets. That means a growing global middle class.

In addition, even in terms of sustainability the world may already be in overshoot:

https://theconversation.com/if-everyone ... uble-43905

[Revi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ralfy', 'O')nly a fraction of the world's population belongs to the middle class, and the only way members of the middle class can maintain their living standards is to sell more goods and services to growing consumer markets. That means a growing global middle class.

In addition, even in terms of sustainability the world may already be in overshoot:

https://theconversation.com/if-everyone ... uble-43905

[ennui2]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ralfy', '
')the world may already be in overshoot

[ralfy]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ennui2', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ralfy', '
')the world may already be in overshoot

[ennui2]

Not sure anyone's left here who is passionate enough to mount a rebuttal of overshoot. Graeme was probably the poster-child for bright-green ecotopia and he's gone.

[Lore]

We've probably reached a point here on P.O. where most big issues have already been discussed to the point of a legitimate answer.

[Lore]

I love technology...use it all the time, but....

[ennui2]

Perhaps 'we' (royal we, of course) shouldn't be burning needless electricity perpetuating doomer flamewars either, heh Pstarr? Maybe you should tend to your beloved donkey carts and redwoods rather than throwing stones in glass houses. You're no more of a noble savage than I am.

[ennui2]

So now this site has devolved into crunching comparative statistical numbers on keywords? Don't you have better things to do than try to moderate the forum? If you want me off the site, start flagging my posts just as I've done with yours (to no avail). Until then, focus on the issues. You always resort to ad homs when you run out of on-point rebuttals, and that's the mark of a losing argument. It's basically a Donald Trump style of debate. Meltdowns don't help your argument.

[Pops]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', 'I') do data, you do hysterics.

[ennui2]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', 'I') do data, you do hysterics.

[ralfy]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ennui2', 'N')ot sure anyone's left here who is passionate enough to mount a rebuttal of overshoot. Graeme was probably the poster-child for bright-green ecotopia and he's gone.

[onlooker]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ralfy', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ennui2', 'N')ot sure anyone's left here who is passionate enough to mount a rebuttal of overshoot. Graeme was probably the poster-child for bright-green ecotopia and he's gone.

[Subjectivist]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Lore', 'I') love technology...use it all the time, but....