[ROCKMAN]

Goner - Hush, you're hurting the trading value of plant and marm. Their worth has already degraded enough. I doubt T will hold to his offer now. Thanks a lot butthole. LOL

[Revi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('GoghGoner', 'P')eakers are a tiny part of the global population, so tiny as to be insignificant. Maybe when the author first thought of the book oil prices were rising and the active community was growing. Since 2009, TOD has shut down, EB rebranded, LATOC shut down, very few active posters on PO.COM, etc... We are as dead as Latin.

[onlooker]

Yes we are modern day Cassandras.

[ralfy]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ROCKMAN', 'L')ore – Positive vibes? Aren’t most here VERY POSITIVE…that society will do very little to avoid the energy/environmental catastrophe we’re heading to?

Ralfy – “…many reports about peak oil and the threat of a resource and energy crunch have been published by a variety of sources, including multinational banks, international energy agencies, military forces, intelligence groups, government agencies, and insurers.” And then add in a bunch of old white guys here talking about PO day and night yet our path hasn’t changed by any significant measure. Sorta like the old line: “Everybody talks about the weather but nobody does anything about it”. Well that’s not true anymore: all the fossil fuel consumers are certainly doing something about the weather. LOL.

Ennue - “The demographics of PO seem not that different from the Tea Party”. Bro, I don’t see that at all here. And we are the heart of the “PO movement” as far as I can tell. LOL. I don’t keep count but on average our band of brothers here is rather far removed from the Tea or even the middle of the road conservatives.

And everyone else: so far the offers I’ve gotten for my plant/marm trade in our fantasy PO league are insufficient. I did give some consideration to the bid of a one-eyed 3-legged dog with no teeth by the name of Lucky. But I’ll hold out a little longer.

[ralfy]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('GoghGoner', 'P')eakers are a tiny part of the global population, so tiny as to be insignificant. Maybe when the author first thought of the book oil prices were rising and the active community was growing. Since 2009, TOD has shut down, EB rebranded, LATOC shut down, very few active posters on PO.COM, etc... We are as dead as Latin.

[EdwinSm]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('GoghGoner', ' ')We are as dead as Latin.

[GoghGoner]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ralfy', 'T')he problem isn't so much as "peakers" being insignificant as much of the global population not realizing that what they thought would never happen has already started.

[ralfy]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('GoghGoner', '
')
Very, very few people in the world are future theoreticians and even less people are pessimistic future theoreticians. They live day-to-day and take the world for how it is right now.

[Revi]

He talks about this site quite a lot around page 250.

“The most popular thread there, with over 45,000 comments, was “My Doom-O-Meter is jittering towards max,” ”

Excerpt From: Matthew Schneider-Mayerson. “Peak Oil.” iBooks. https://itun.es/us/UA-g-.l

[Revi]

I think he is way off the mark with this remark. He is blaming the internet forum for keeping Peak Oil from affecting the mainstream. I doubt the mainstream would have figured it out without the internet, and it would not have done anything if it knew about Peak Oil, in my humble opinion.
“Without the Internet, the peak oil phenomenon would not have occurred. The possibility of impending resource depletion would probably have remained where it was in the 1990s, when only a few geologists and environmentalists were concerned about these questions. But, without the Internet as its medium, these concerns might have taken a very different form, by sparking a social movement demanding that the United States transition away from reliance on nonrenewable energy sources, for example, instead of the mostly individualistic responses we saw in chapter 1.”

Excerpt From: Matthew Schneider-Mayerson. “Peak Oil.” iBooks. https://itun.es/us/UA-g-.l

[Revi]

We do have good taste in movies, however. They list three of my favorite movies, that were panned by the critics. Anyone who spends time on boats in the ocean is bound to love Waterworld!
“Although a majority of Americans of a certain age have probably seen Independence Day, it is doubtful that nearly as many nonpeakists have seen less popular films such as The Postman (which 40 percent of my American survey respondents watched), Waterworld (65 percent), or Children of Men (36 percent)”

Excerpt From: Matthew Schneider-Mayerson. “Peak Oil.” iBooks. https://itun.es/us/UA-g-.l

[ennui2]

The internet dumbs people down as much as it informs because there's no fact-checking on the internet. Everything has a "truthy" quality to it, especially when presented in a journalistic style, and therefore people are more liable to believe what they read than they should be.

[ROCKMAN]

So according to him geologists weren't concerned about PO as recently as the 90's??? Which confirms my suspicion he has had very few if any conversations with working petroleum geologists. Maybe he read some Big Oil press releases. Or maybe read articles by "experts" who never generated a single prospect.

Once again: the Rockman's first mentor at Mobil Oil in 1975 clearly explained the significant difficulty the oil patch was dealing with AT THAT TIME with its problems replacing oil reserves. Yes: 40 years ago geologists were struggling to replace depleting oil reserves. All I see going on today...the last 10 years...the last 20 years... is the same f*cking cycle I observed in the late 70's/early 80's.

Just the names have been changed to protect the guilty. LOL.

[GoghGoner]

[https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iRJMN5GNbVU/url]

His TED talk....

He would like to see activism. He also seems really sure of the future which is probably going to prove him wrong.

[Revi]

I liked his Ted talk, but I think he doesn't realize that very few people are listening. Us peak oil folks have been there, done that. Maybe there is a groundswell of people who will do something about this, but I doubt it. Business as usual until the empire falls, and then continue it in the ruins.

[Revi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', 'R')evi, those three are among my favorite post-apocalyptic films . But what do they have to do with the OP and the new book?