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Re: Building a flying saucer

Unread postby Cog » Mon 19 Oct 2015, 23:55:10

When the OP is flying around in his saucer won't we look like the foolish ones.
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Re: Building a flying saucer

Unread postby Plantagenet » Tue 20 Oct 2015, 00:08:45

Its turning out to be much too complicated for us to figure out here how to build a flying saucer.

I suggest we just build a teleportation machine, send Jody Foster to the alien planet with the megastructure recently discovered by the Kepler telescope, and ask them how to do it....

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When you et there, ask them how to build a flying saucer!
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Re: Building a flying saucer

Unread postby SeaGypsy » Tue 20 Oct 2015, 00:21:15

Teleporting is massively underrated, by far the safest & fastest & most efficient form of transport, discovered by cavemen & still works as good.
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Re: Building a flying saucer

Unread postby Tanada » Tue 20 Oct 2015, 00:39:31

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('SeaGypsy', 'T')anada has always been gender non specific in these forums. The hot black chick icon & brainpower combo is pretty potent anyway, used to be her (my guess) trademark.

Is the OP going to put up some comparison UFOs we need to compete with?


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Re: Building a flying saucer

Unread postby SeaGypsy » Tue 20 Oct 2015, 03:42:34

Swoon....
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Re: Building a flying saucer

Unread postby Gsearch » Tue 20 Oct 2015, 04:15:40

Humanity is at the whim of technological progress. People who do not have the foresight and the flexibility to adapt to the future will be left behind or below. History says so. Prehistory says so. The system is going nowhere but foreward and we are all at its mercy.

If you do not figure out how to build one of these devices, among others, your entire life will be a waste. You will have gone through the world blindfolded during a transition to the next great technological revolution. Your life will be summed up by what it could have been.

If you want to remain and become immortal, you have to try to figure this out and make serious efforts to create it. Time is running out and we have a lot of catching up to do.
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Re: Building a flying saucer

Unread postby davep » Tue 20 Oct 2015, 05:09:37

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')f you do not figure out how to build one of these devices, among others, your entire life will be a waste. You will have gone through the world blindfolded during a transition to the next great technological revolution. Your life will be summed up by what it could have been.


I'm more a fan of "appropriate" technology http://journeytoforever.org/at.html.

And rather than speeding towards the unintended consequences of yet more techno-fixes, we should be addressing the damage we've done to the planet by existing technology. Your statement ignores the fact that people may think slightly differently to yourself and that their motivations can exist and be relevant.
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Re: Building a flying saucer

Unread postby Gsearch » Tue 20 Oct 2015, 14:51:27

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And rather than speeding towards the unintended consequences of yet more techno-fixes, we should be addressing the damage we've done to the planet by existing technology.


A righteous cause, but utterly feckless. The world is growing exponentially. China and India have reached maybe 20% of their total growth capacity. Africa less than 1%. The enormity of the problem is way greater the viable solutions you can come up with.

Even if you managed to magically trap carbon, there are a million other problems that come with this growth phenomenon. There are only two possibilities:

1.) Environmentalist fears were wrong or overexaggerated, and Earth can support many billions more middle class people, albeit with consequences, or;

2.) Earth/civilization will suffer massive catastrophes due to growth.

Either way, none of any of the solutions to the growth problem will mean anything.

All that matters is that you take the opportunity to get hold of exotic new technologies that will increase the chances of your own survival. Earth is but one of many inhabitable places in the Universe and the importance of being able to get off of it cannot be underestimated.

The good news is that nothing could be more environmentally friendly than high-performance aircraft and spaceships which operate on cosmic energy and electromagnetism, and which have zero carbon emissions. Help find out how to create them so we can escape the looming bottleneck and get off of this miserable piece of shit planet, who's very abundance was the source of our problems.
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Re: Building a flying saucer

Unread postby Gsearch » Tue 20 Oct 2015, 16:02:56

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Gsearch', 'T')he world is growing exponentially. China and India have reached maybe 20% of their total growth capacity. Africa less than 1%. The enormity of the problem is way greater the viable solutions you can come up with.

Does that mean something?


Yes, it means there's no point in trying to save Earth.
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Re: Building a flying saucer

Unread postby Gsearch » Tue 20 Oct 2015, 16:50:01

Pstarr, are you aware of the Aether predicted by Tesla, etc? Did you see that link I included about the Karl Schappeller device? If not I suggest learn about both.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aether_theories

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ufo_a ... pter4b.htm
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Re: Building a flying saucer

Unread postby SeaGypsy » Tue 20 Oct 2015, 17:21:10

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Gsearch', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('davep', '
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And rather than speeding towards the unintended consequences of yet more techno-fixes, we should be addressing the damage we've done to the planet by existing technology.


A righteous cause, but utterly feckless. The world is growing exponentially. China and India have reached maybe 20% of their total growth capacity. Africa less than 1%. The enormity of the problem is way greater the viable solutions you can come up with.

Even if you managed to magically trap carbon, there are a million other problems that come with this growth phenomenon. There are only two possibilities:

1.) Environmentalist fears were wrong or overexaggerated, and Earth can support many billions more middle class people, albeit with consequences, or;

2.) Earth/civilization will suffer massive catastrophes due to growth.

Either way, none of any of the solutions to the growth problem will mean anything.

All that matters is that you take the opportunity to get hold of exotic new technologies that will increase the chances of your own survival. Earth is but one of many inhabitable places in the Universe and the importance of being able to get off of it cannot be underestimated.

The good news is that nothing could be more environmentally friendly than high-performance aircraft and spaceships which operate on cosmic energy and electromagnetism, and which have zero carbon emissions. Help find out how to create them so we can escape the looming bottleneck and get off of this miserable piece of shit planet, who's very abundance was the source of our problems.

You sir, are an idiot. The sooner you are off this horrible planet the better.
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Re: Building a flying saucer

Unread postby Keith_McClary » Tue 20 Oct 2015, 17:43:12

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Gsearch', 's')paceships which operate on cosmic energy and electromagnetism

Are you familiar with Maxwell's equations?
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Re: Building a flying saucer

Unread postby Gsearch » Tue 20 Oct 2015, 18:02:55

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Keith_McClary', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Gsearch', 's')paceships which operate on cosmic energy and electromagnetism

Are you familiar with Maxwell's equations?


Yeah an interesting take on this is Modification of Maxwell's Equations in Free Space to Account for Nonzero Photon Mass and Scalar Electromagnetic Waves
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Re: Building a flying saucer

Unread postby Cog » Tue 20 Oct 2015, 18:13:41

I assumed magnets would be involved somewhere.
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Re: Building a flying saucer

Unread postby Gsearch » Tue 20 Oct 2015, 18:26:00

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cog', 'I') assumed magnets would be involved somewhere.


Yeah man magnets have some incredible abilities especially when coupled with electricity. Some really cool videos:

Induction forge levitates and melts aluminum:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VydPQuLyEns

Inducing mercury vortex:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4yBDLWdUtc
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Re: Building a flying saucer

Unread postby davep » Wed 21 Oct 2015, 03:50:11

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A') righteous cause, but utterly feckless. The world is growing exponentially. China and India have reached maybe 20% of their total growth capacity. Africa less than 1%. The enormity of the problem is way greater the viable solutions you can come up with.

Even if you managed to magically trap carbon, there are a million other problems that come with this growth phenomenon.


Before you go throwing around wanton accusations of fecklessness, try understanding what you're talking about.

The growth paradigm is not something we don't understand, nor is it inevitable. It's a direct symptom of our economic system that requires growth in order to stand still. This is due to money being created as credit, and being destroyed when that credit is paid. What is left is the debt from the interest, that needs to be paid by yet more debt-created money. This is unsustainable and the root of the requirement for growth (population growth in itself does not correlate with monetary growth and resource consumption, btw).

However, it is not set in stone. Do me the courtesy of a little search on the site for threads where I and others discuss alternatives to the current monetary system instead of merely insulting people with your uninformed judgements.
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